Geno's Decision to Slide

[knownone]

Dayum. I realize the dude walks on water, but for ONCE, just admit he made a crappy play.

There's no way reason to sacrifice his body? In a football game?

I give up.

Dayum. I know you are a lazy troll, but an 11-yard gain from a scramble isn't a crappy play.

Don't give up. Do better.

 

[RiverDog]

Brock when talking to Salk about that play agreed with Salk. I agree he didn't make a business decision and think that's a little unfair but it was absolutely a mental mistake that just can't happen. To argue otherwise seems like we're letting a bias come into play. I haven't seen anyone outside of a couple of massive Geno homers argue it wasn't a bad mental mistake and a lack of awareness. I'm not killing Geno, every player makes mistakes at times. Yesterday that play, the DK fumble and a couple of other plays go differently we may win.

I agree 100%. I do have a bias against Geno, a personal one as I don't like certain aspects of his personality, and at times, I have to check myself to make sure that my judgement of his football ability is not affected by it.

There were lots of places to point the finger in that loss, any one of which could have changed the outcome: 3 for 13 on 3rd/4th down, giving up 7 sacks, just 1-4 in the red zone. And not just our players. Grubb's play calling was atrocious, handing the rock to our RB's just 7 times in a close contest like that? I am by no means hanging Geno out to dry. He's done way better than anyone expected after taking over for Russell.

 

[Fresno Hawk]

At the time it happened i was thinking why didn't you get the first down. And then I really blew it when the next play was called. For me it was a combo of things where Geno had a mental lapse. 1.
Not getting the first down, but I think the 4th down play i was thinking dam Geno why didn't you change that play at the line of scrimmage. I mean if I'm the QB and I hear that play called on 4th down, knowing what we were up against i would have been like hold up let's change this. I just think the timing of when this happened was a crucial point in the game that we couldn't afford to have.

 

[knownone]

Brock when talking to Salk about that play agreed with Salk. I agree he didn't make a business decision and think that's a little unfair but it was absolutely a mental mistake that just can't happen. To argue otherwise seems like we're letting a bias come into play. I haven't seen anyone outside of a couple of massive Geno homers argue it wasn't a bad mental mistake and a lack of awareness. I'm not killing Geno, every player makes mistakes at times. Yesterday that play, the DK fumble and a couple of other plays go differently we may win.

What is the coaching point? Is Geno supposed to know exactly where the line is while running full speed at an angle 85 feet from the marker? He came up inches short and put his team in a position to go for it on fourth down. It happens. The idea that this was a mental mistake or a lack of awareness is just inconceivably petty.

 

[Maelstrom787]

I'm with Fender. First thing I thought of was Fig Newton.

As an aside, Russ, even today's Russ, even Russ on the sidelines in street clothes...gets that first down.

Russell's slow fat ass ain't making it there. Sorry.

 

[GemCity]

As I’m not looking forward to a long season with Howell (yet), I’m not mad at Geno for sliding.

He would’ve been lit up…

 

[Seahawks Guy]

What is the coaching point? Is Geno supposed to know exactly where the line is while running full speed at an angle 85 feet from the marker? He came up inches short and put his team in a position to go for it on fourth down. It happens. The idea that this was a mental mistake or a lack of awareness is just inconceivably petty.

I would think the QB should know what yard line the marker is, otherwise how does he know where to throw the ball? It shouldn't be hard to make a mental note where the line is pre-snap.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Dayum. I know you are a lazy troll, but an 11-yard gain from a scramble isn't a crappy play.

Don't give up. Do better.

That's adorable. You can't even just take the L. It was a sh** play, just admit it and get over yourself for a minute.

Call me a troll all you want........couldn't care less.

 

[Ozzy]

What is the coaching point? Is Geno supposed to know exactly where the line is while running full speed at an angle 85 feet from the marker? He came up inches short and put his team in a position to go for it on fourth down. It happens. The idea that this was a mental mistake or a lack of awareness is just inconceivably petty.

Have you played football? This isn’t as hard as you’ve painted it as. Brock Huard who played said it was bad mistake that can’t happen and called it a mental mistake. What’s petty is not being willing to say a player made a mistake when they all make mistakes. Players locate the first down marker multiple times in every game lol. Your bias towards Geno is clouding your judgement here. In fact I can’t find a single football mind who hasn’t said it was a mental mistake outside of a couple of Geno fanatics.

Geno was the reason we were even in the game and he made a mistake on a crucial third down. It’s ok to admit both it really is

 

[Ozzy]

I would think the QB should know what yard line the marker is, otherwise how does he know where to throw the ball? It shouldn't be hard to make a mental note where the line is pre-snap.

He should’ve. Mahomes just tonight located the market and barely got the first multiple times. People are letting months of defending Geno paint themselves into a corner where they now can’t admit any fault. It’s weird.

I was wrong on Geno, he’s much better than I thought he would be and I’m totally fine admitting as much. This isn’t a novel concept

 

[Ozzy]

Russell's slow fat ass ain't making it there. Sorry.

But Russ in his prime gets it every time.

 

[Atradees]

Put Howell in. Geno is confused. This era is over. All it takes is a quarterback to win

 

[Madrid Hawk]

Even "slow, fat ass" Russ gets it. Because he wants it.

 

[West TX Hawk]

Even "slow, fat ass" Russ gets it. Because he wants it.

Russ may have also held onto the ball too long and have been sacked. It was the wrong decision for Geno to slide but it had nothing to do with not “wanting it”-it was just bad strategy in the heat of the moment.

 

[Spin Doctor]

I don't think it was a business decision, just poor situational awareness by Geno. You have to understand, most QB's make stupid decisions like this. Geno is not a top tier QB and these are the type of things you live with if you don't have an elite QB. People have hyped Geno up to an unreasonable degree. He is not an MVP candidate, he is not even an elite QB. He sometimes has spazzy WTF moments. That doesn't mean he isn't good either.

 

[knownone]

Have you played football? This isn’t as hard as you’ve painted it as. Brock Huard who played said it was bad mistake that can’t happen and called it a mental mistake. What’s petty is not being willing to say a player made a mistake when they all make mistakes. Players locate the first down marker multiple times in every game lol. Your bias towards Geno is clouding your judgement here. In fact I can’t find a single football mind who hasn’t said it was a mental mistake outside of a couple of Geno fanatics.

Geno was the reason we were even in the game and he made a mistake on a crucial third down. It’s ok to admit both it really is

I have played and coached football at various levels. Is that supposed to validate or invalidate my opinion? Brock is entitled to his opinion. I doubt Grubb feels that way, and I doubt many 'football minds' would judge a quarterback harshly for coming short in that situation.

Bias? In your post, you compared a quarterback coming up inches short on third-and-long to a fricken turnover. This is peak hindsight bias. If Seattle converts that 4th downplay, is anyone criticizing Geno setting up fourth and short? No. The whole reason this is even a debate is because Geno made a great play.

The rest of your post is childish. Make an argument. Don't gaslight me to validate your opinion.

 

[West TX Hawk]

I agree 100%. I do have a bias against Geno, a personal one as I don't like certain aspects of his personality, and at times, I have to check myself to make sure that my judgement of his football ability is not affected by it.

Genuinely curious, what personality traits of Geno are you not fond of? Has this affected your analysis of him in the past? I’m also wondering if there’s something about Geno that has rubbed others the wrong way and influenced their opinions as well.

Back on topic, yes, it was a rather glaring mistake to not dive for the first, but I’m confident he’s the type of athlete that will have learned and won’t do it again in a similar situation.

Personally, I’ve found Geno’s story a fascinating study in perseverance and grit. His tenacity to not give up his dream of once again starting in this league and be given an opportunity to demonstrate his vast improvement since his early years has been very admirable. By all accounts, his teammates love him and have their full trust in him—and I think that speaks volumes.

 

[rcaido]

Even "slow, fat ass" Russ gets it. Because he wants it.

Daniel walking stiff Jones would have put his whole body on the line. No way you slide in that situation.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Dayum. I know you are a lazy troll, but an 11-yard gain from a scramble isn't a crappy play.

Don't give up. Do better.

It kind of is when you need 12 and its there for the taking.

 

[pittpnthrs]

What is the coaching point? Is Geno supposed to know exactly where the line is while running full speed at an angle 85 feet from the marker? He came up inches short and put his team in a position to go for it on fourth down. It happens. The idea that this was a mental mistake or a lack of awareness is just inconceivably petty.

Being unable to admit that it was a mental mistake is just inconceivably petty. A player shouldn't be judging where the line exactly is anyways. He needs to be sure he made the 1st and take guessing out of the equation.

It was a bad play. They happen. Why are you so adamant on defending it?