Geno Smith on Pace for...

[SeaWolv]

This is likely fantasy. Geno is going to get paid in line with top QBs, maybe not quite Russell Wilson money, but it's going to be up there. If we don't pay him someone else will. Half of the league is usually looking for a QB at any given time. What Smith is doing puts him in the upper echelon of passers this season. He's going to get market value and that isn't going to be cheap. He's going to be paid at least what Allen and Mahomes are making.

Maybe, but he's only done it for one season. I think there are some, maybe many, that will balk at offering him big money because the thought will be yeah but can he do it again?

 

[Kinger95]

This is likely fantasy. Geno is going to get paid in line with top QBs, maybe not quite Russell Wilson money, but it's going to be up there. If we don't pay him someone else will. Half of the league is usually looking for a QB at any given time. What Smith is doing puts him in the upper echelon of passers this season. He's going to get market value and that isn't going to be cheap. He's going to be paid at least what Allen and Mahomes are making.

 

[Kinger95]

Those two make 45/43 mill.

I’d bet any amount of money that geno doesn’t make more than 33 mill on his next deal

 

[bmorepunk]

The amount of people that think if he continues to play well thruogh the season that he's not going to be incredibly expensive is wild to me.

 

[Spin Doctor]

Maybe, but he's only done it for one season. I think there are some, maybe many, that will balk at offering him big money because the thought will be yeah but can he do it again?

Doesn't matter, all it takes is one season. I've seen one hit wonders paid obscene amounts of money. Another thing about Geno, the throws and reads he's making aren't rudimentary -- his tape is stupid good this season. There is a reason why talking heads aren't doubting him and some are even declaring him a MVP canidate.

I was skeptical at first, but with the tape this guy has on him now, he's getting paid. This isn't some "system QB" stuff that he's doing. He's making throws that only the top passers make on a routine basis. That throw to DK two weeks ago really stands out. Geno is making receivers open by virtue of his ball placement and anticipation.

There is no way he goes below market value unless he tanks big time.

 

[LeveeBreak]

I am curious...the thought that a system QB is worth less than a...non-system QB? Isn't that essentially what Russ was? Donks are finding out why that may not be the most prudent move.

To me, a QB that can learn 1 system and play at a high level should indicate they can do it with others. Hoping the hawks can sign him to an extension this year...risk of injury is the best leverage to get a friendly team deal. Add that he wants to be in Seattle, we could see a discount for team benefit...but the longer it goes, the more cha-ching's are likely.

 

[sutz]

Geno's floor is probably $15-20 mill/yr and climbing.

 

[Spin Doctor]

The amount of people that think if he continues to play well thruogh the season that he's not going to be incredibly expensive is wild to me.

Seriously, there is no way that he isn't getting paid if he keeps this up. Virtually half the league is looking for a QB -- if Geno was to go on the open market, he'd be getting close to Russell Wilson money.

In addition to this, Geno Smith is running a system that is EXTREMELY common in the NFL. The Shanahan style WCO is everywhere these days. You think that guys like Pederson or Kyle Shanahan wouldn't pay obscene amounts of money for Geno Smith?

The fact that Smith not only is playing at the highest level in the NFL right now isn't any accident or one off event. He's also doing it in one of the most common systems these days in the NFL. The Shanahan/McVay system is everywhere.

 

[Spin Doctor]

I am curious...the thought that a system QB is worth less than a...non-system QB? Isn't that essentially what Russ was? Donks are finding out why that may not be the most prudent move.

To me, a QB that can learn 1 system and play at a high level should indicate they can do it with others. Hoping the hawks can sign him to an extension this year...risk of injury is the best leverage to get a friendly team deal. Add that he wants to be in Seattle, we could see a discount for team benefit...but the longer it goes, the more cha-ching's are likely.

Every QB is a system QB to some degree. Every QB has their strengths and weaknesses and it is the OC's job to compensate for those.

It also just so happens that Geno Smith is playing in one of the most common systems in the NFL.... If he is a system QB he could go to half of the NFL and not miss a beat.

Brandon Staley, Matt LeFleur, Zac Taylor, Wes Phillips and Shane Waldron are all OC's from the McVay family. That means we know that Smith could slot in on 5 teams automatically.

In addition to this, McVay's offense is a derivative of the Shanahan system. They're very similar, this means that Smith would likely succeed here too.

Those teams that run the Shanahan system are: Vikings, Jaguars, Packers, Rams, 49ers, Seahawks, Jets, and Chargers. The Rams current OC is also being looked at as being a potential HC candidate. In addition to these teams having direct lineage to Shanahan's system, other NFL teams are looking to pick up the Shanahan system and implement it into their team.

Geno Smith is adept at running the hottest offensive system in the NFL these days. He could be a system QB, it just so happens that the system he runs is everywhere in the NFL these days.

 

[hox]

There are a ton of QB-needy teams. He'll be getting paid market value for sure. The question is, do we pay him that? Or roll the dice in this "deep QB" draft? I'm leaning towards, pay it. And continue to build a dominate oline and dline.

 

[Lords of Scythia]

Geno also make great adjustments. He changed Goodwin's route and got a td. He switches to runs and gets tds. The only thing we can hope for is that if it wasn't for Pete Carrol, he wouldn't be in the league. Anything under 40 and he's doing the team a favor.

 

[LeveeBreak]

Geno also make great adjustments. He changed Goodwin's route and got a td. He switches to runs and gets tds. The only thing we can hope for is that if it wasn't for Pete Carrol, he wouldn't be in the league. Anything under 40 and he's doing the team a favor.

I agree on this. I am hopeful/optomistic we get a team friendly deal...but i think 35-40 is more likely. That would still technically be a friendly deal with today's going rate...but I still hope for lower. An extra $5-10m a year can go along way on securing talent for the roster. Last I saw, we had ~13m cap for 2022 and ~34m for 2023. I'm not a capologist, but It appears fitting an additional ~$30m will probably take some work. Jamal Adams and Quandre both $18m next year. Lockett $17m, DK $13m.

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[Chukarhawk]

that should net him comeback player of the decade. Insane.

 

[Chukarhawk]

The amount of people that think if he continues to play well thruogh the season that he's not going to be incredibly expensive is wild to me.

He's 32 already. While I'm now a believer, its only been 7 games.

 

[hox]

He's 32 already. While I'm now a believer, its only been 7 games.

I think his game is sustainable though. Being on the bench, his body hasn't taken a beating. Still looks fast on his scrambles. But what makes his game sustainable is his decision-making and ability to read defenses. It's the cerebral part of his game that indicates he can continue playing at a high level.