Fun stuff from the all 22, focused on defense.

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Thought I would share a few notes from the all 22.

The first interception Kaepernick threw was not into zone. Hawks had off man cover in an a 3rd and goal play, they dropped to the goalline, and Thurmond read wKaepernick's staredown and throw. He reacted and caused the pick. Chris Collinsworth may have called it zone, but it was not.

Perhaps my favorite play of the night is at 8:17 of the 2nd quarter. Davis lines up left. Williams and Moore line up right slot, one is going deep to try and create space for the other to cross the field in front of the QB. Davis and Williams will cross, with the possibility of a pick play. Boldin is lined up far right, across from Sherman in press. As it turns out, Kaepernick hears footsteps, tries to escape, and is smashed by Avril, who causes a fumble. But the coverage is absolutely perfect. It is a complicated route set and nobody on defense is out of position. Nobody. Best secondary in the league indeed.

A play San Fran loves is the flood right with a deep, middle, and short read. FOr example, at 5:52 of the 2nd quarter, SF lines up in a one back, two tight end formation, with the two tight ends also in the backfield, kind of like a diamond, with Kaepernick in the middle. THis was a formation and pattern set that they used with frequency and success vs New England last year. THe offensive line sells run zone block on this play.
Miller is the short read. Malcom Smith never lets him out of the backfield. Miller wants to chip Smith and release, but Smith just stays on him. On the middle and deep route Davis and Boldin are running a two man game, with Davis running the deep and Boldin going into any empty space Davis creates by absorbing the safety or linebacker. Or, Boldin can free up Davis by taking any help away with a cut to the zone behind the linebackers. The Hawks just slow play it. Kam mans up on Davis, Sherman glues himself to Boldin, and Voila, a San Fran staple play is DOA.

On that play and many others, a detail I have noticed about Kaepernick is confirmed. He throws for a low percentage to moving targets outside the numbers. In fact, on the night, unless I missed something, Kaepernick completes a couple of 6 yard digs and a couple of quick hitters to a WR who moves maybe a yard off the snap. For completions outside the numbers, that is it. Nothing else. This may seem like a minor detail, but the one pass Seattle's scheme gives away is accurate passes to the sidelines vs press corners. And it seems to me to be the pass Kaepernick struggles with the most.

On to another play. 3:44 of the 2nd. Another staple play of the Niner offense. Keep in mind the Niners love 2 man route game. In this play, they bring Boldin in motion and park him beside/slightly behind 19(Moore?). Sherman is in man cover on Boldin and goes in motion with him. This is exactly what the Niners want. This play is another Roman Gabriel staple. If Moore can rub the motion corner in man coverage, Boldin can run free. Seattle does what the Niners don't expect. Sherman drops back a step as the motion man sets, right behind the corner lined up on (Moore?) and just hands coverage of Boldin off to Thurmond. Moore takes off, there isn't anyone to rub, he runs a deep route with Sherman in trail position, and Thurmond proceeds to just destroy anything Boldin had planned by pressing the hell out of him. Boldin never gets 2 yards off the line, and is so pissed gives up on the route and starts trying to push Thurmond around.

I can't overstate how big a deal this is. The drag route is a staple for the Niners. Seattle has the talent to play it more like a basketball defense of a pick and roll than anything else, and it kills the play. Green Bay was destroyed by plays like this.
Kaepernick finally gives up on the play and looks left. He ends up throwing a deep ball to Gore, who is blanketed by Wright. Another innaccurate pass outside the numbers.

Another play where Sherman deserves a game ball, 10:21 of the 4th. San Fran perfectly executes a WR screen to 10 (Williams). there are 5 blockers, and only 4 Hawks. Sherman rolls off a block and destroys Williams. It looks to me like this is a touchdown if Sherman doesn't make this play.

The Kam Chancellor pick? Once again, the 2 man route game San Fran likes to use. This time it looks like Boldin has the job of picking Sherman off his coverage of Moore. The classic accidental rub route. Boldin misses. Sherman slips just by Boldin, stays on the hip of the WR, and Kam collects the errant pass.

I will spend a little more time on the offense now and post what I see.
 

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We all know the Legion is great, but thanks for the specific examples.

Curious what you saw in the linebackers coverage abilities? I think it was a weakness for the team last year, and seems to be a bit better so far this season.
 

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Great breakdown Scott, really appreciate it. Really shows how on top of their game our D was for the Niners.
 
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JSeahawks":16wh9z4c said:
We all know the Legion is great, but thanks for the specific examples.

Curious what you saw in the linebackers coverage abilities? I think it was a weakness for the team last year, and seems to be a bit better so far this season.
On a lot of pass downs, Hawks had corners on tight ends, not linebackers. Davis is not extremely physical, so it isn't the mismatch it might be to have a corner on say, Gronk. On a number of downs, there was press outside, but your standard 3 man linebacker zone underneath. KJ had perfect coverage on Gore a couple of times, but Gore has lost a step and so I don't think it was too tough for KJ, who is no burner.
 

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Sweet analysis. Question, Scotte; do you see us playing more man this year? I mean that literally in terms of our first two games, but also I'm asking the question if you think we will.
 
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RolandDeschain":24r14d45 said:
Sweet analysis. Question, Scotte; do you see us playing more man this year? I mean that literally in terms of our first two games, but also I'm asking the question if you think we will.

I think Pete has always followed the same exact formula, primarily man cover guys when you think you own the matchup, mix up some zones when you don't. San Fran does not have anyone they fear. For that matter, Green Bay saw a lot of man last year too.

It's a mixed bag playing a lot of man cover vs the Niners, most of Kaepernick's big runs were vs man. If Pete can, I think he would rather play press on the edges, and zone it up in the middle.
 

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Scottemojo":sutyd14v said:
RolandDeschain":sutyd14v said:
Sweet analysis. Question, Scotte; do you see us playing more man this year? I mean that literally in terms of our first two games, but also I'm asking the question if you think we will.

I think Pete has always followed the same exact formula, primarily man cover guys when you think you own the matchup, mix up some zones when you don't. San Fran does not have anyone they fear. For that matter, Green Bay saw a lot of man last year too.

It's a mixed bag playing a lot of man cover vs the Niners, most of Kaepernick's big runs were vs man. If Pete can, I think he would rather play press on the edges, and zone it up in the middle.

Zone coverage is supposed to be the best way to combat these running QBs. The Tampa 2 zone that Chicago runs, and when Tampa ran it to perfection wouldn't give up much.

As for Wright covering Gore, I like that move. I wonder why they didn't put Hunter out there for things like that ? Hunter is faster and could win that matchup. The Niners were probably missing LaMichael James, who was earning his pay late last year as a 3rd down guy in these situations. It might make the matchup down there a bit different.

Question for you Scotte: when you see Chancellor running with Davis, does he keep up well ? I'm curious as to exactly how fast Kam is, and Davis runs a legit 4.4 forty. Funny, as I saw Sherman with him step for step and that's not supposed to be possible according to combine numbers for both players. To my knowledge, Sherman has never run a 4.4
 

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This is now the blueprint that will go around the league.

Makes me wonder how much longer the Hawks will have Rocky Seto and/or Kris Richard.
 

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Hawks46":11g4hvc4 said:
Scottemojo":11g4hvc4 said:
RolandDeschain":11g4hvc4 said:
Sweet analysis. Question, Scotte; do you see us playing more man this year? I mean that literally in terms of our first two games, but also I'm asking the question if you think we will.

I think Pete has always followed the same exact formula, primarily man cover guys when you think you own the matchup, mix up some zones when you don't. San Fran does not have anyone they fear. For that matter, Green Bay saw a lot of man last year too.

It's a mixed bag playing a lot of man cover vs the Niners, most of Kaepernick's big runs were vs man. If Pete can, I think he would rather play press on the edges, and zone it up in the middle.

Zone coverage is supposed to be the best way to combat these running QBs. The Tampa 2 zone that Chicago runs, and when Tampa ran it to perfection wouldn't give up much.

As for Wright covering Gore, I like that move. I wonder why they didn't put Hunter out there for things like that ? Hunter is faster and could win that matchup. The Niners were probably missing LaMichael James, who was earning his pay late last year as a 3rd down guy in these situations. It might make the matchup down there a bit different.

Question for you Scotte: when you see Chancellor running with Davis, does he keep up well ? I'm curious as to exactly how fast Kam is, and Davis runs a legit 4.4 forty. Funny, as I saw Sherman with him step for step and that's not supposed to be possible according to combine numbers for both players. To my knowledge, Sherman has never run a 4.4

Vernon Davis ran a 4.3 at the combine, IIRC, Sherman ran a 4.54 or something close to that.
 

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kobebryant":20fa2zy8 said:
This is now the blueprint that will go around the league.

Makes me wonder how much longer the Hawks will have Rocky Seto and/or Kris Richard.
Depends on if they want rings, or the money in their pocket to go to Scrubville and start rebuilding. I hope we keep our guys for a few years; except I'd be more than fine with bringing Jeremy Bates back to replace Bevell. Probably not a popular opinion, but whatevs.
 

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Cool write-up, thanks.

I think Colinsworth was right though, we were in zone on the Thomas int. I think if you watch it again you'll see it.

We do hand off routes very well in man coverage. A lot of smart players with good communication, and well coached.

Press on the outside with 3 LB's in the middle screams a tampa 2, is it not? I guess it could be man, but I thought those types of coverages have essentially been phased out of the league as RB's became more prominent out of the backfield.
 

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Scottemojo":1abt6h5q said:
Another play where Sherman deserves a game ball, 10:21 of the 4th. San Fran perfectly executes a WR screen to 10 (Williams). there are 5 blockers, and only 4 Hawks. Sherman rolls off a block and destroys Williams. It looks to me like this is a touchdown if Sherman doesn't make this play.

I remember that play as it happened in the game and thinking we were in big trouble. And then Sherman just blows it up just like that.
 

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Scottemojo":322dv7ij said:
I can't overstate how big a deal this is. The drag route is a staple for the Niners. Seattle has the talent to play it more like a basketball defense of a pick and roll than anything else, and it kills the play. Green Bay was destroyed by plays like this.
Very, very heartening to read. So contrary to most of the national voices, it wasn't just the 12th man (ie noise) that shut down the Niner O that was being slobbered all over throughout the last week, but Pete finally having the personnel to execute his chess moves to out coach Hairball. That 5_golden_rings guy was trying to blame it all on them not being able to audible (hand motions being a poor substitute for), which is certainly a factor, but I've come to the point where I'm no longer scared that Pete's coaching is inferior.

I'm most looking forward to taking this show on the road. Whiner fans (and all the other Seahawks naysayers) are saying that it's just our "unfair" advantage at home that they can't counter, and that we aren't very good on the road (conveniently ignoring our post "training wheels" road record). Pete finally has the team he's wanted, and it's, at least right now, the bane of the San Francisco 49ers. They can't just make adjustments or sign one or two players to make up for the match-up nightmares we present for biggest division rival, and every other team in the league.

(Appreciate your analysis as always Scott)
 
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Tical21":1j1s2qpx said:
Cool write-up, thanks.

I think Colinsworth was right though, we were in zone on the Thomas int. I think if you watch it again you'll see it.

We do hand off routes very well in man coverage. A lot of smart players with good communication, and well coached.

Press on the outside with 3 LB's in the middle screams a tampa 2, is it not? I guess it could be man, but I thought those types of coverages have essentially been phased out of the league as RB's became more prominent out of the backfield.
They only ran that look a few times, I am pretty sure if is what they matches a particular look from SF. I will check and see what the formation was.

On the interception, yeah, they are not pressing, everyone is off the WR a bit, but they are singled up. I guess since the plan was to keep all eyes on Kaepernick, it is a zone of sorts, but as the San Fran recievers got to the endzone, all three defenders pressed a guy inside the 5 yard cushion. It has the look to me that all three were playing off press but had single player responsibilities. In fact, I was of the opinion that Thurmond's guy had deep post to clear out the sideline, but never got there, so they ended up with two WR in the same area. I will look again
 

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Scottemojo":2122lrys said:
Tical21":2122lrys said:
Cool write-up, thanks.

I think Colinsworth was right though, we were in zone on the Thomas int. I think if you watch it again you'll see it.

We do hand off routes very well in man coverage. A lot of smart players with good communication, and well coached.

Press on the outside with 3 LB's in the middle screams a tampa 2, is it not? I guess it could be man, but I thought those types of coverages have essentially been phased out of the league as RB's became more prominent out of the backfield.
They only ran that look a few times, I am pretty sure if is what they matches a particular look from SF. I will check and see what the formation was.

On the interception, yeah, they are not pressing, everyone is off the WR a bit, but they are singled up. I guess since the plan was to keep all eyes on Kaepernick, it is a zone of sorts, but as the San Fran recievers got to the endzone, all three defenders pressed a guy inside the 5 yard cushion. It has the look to me that all three were playing off press but had single player responsibilities. In fact, I was of the opinion that Thurmond's guy had deep post to clear out the sideline, but never got there, so they ended up with two WR in the same area. I will look again

They were definitely manned up on Earl's int. Thurmond saw Kaep staring and let his guy go and broke to break up the pass.
 

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Scottemojo":35678r4c said:
Another play where Sherman deserves a game ball, 10:21 of the 4th. San Fran perfectly executes a WR screen to 10 (Williams). there are 5 blockers, and only 4 Hawks. Sherman rolls off a block and destroys Williams. It looks to me like this is a touchdown if Sherman doesn't make this play.
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This play was spectacular. Not just because of the tackle that Sherman puts down on Williams which was Super Spectacular :D - but because looking at it real-time it was like - O crap they ran that perfectly, receiver has the ball behind a wall of players how the heck will this not become a touchdown and then suddenly out of nowhere Sherman just blows it up. He just really came off that perfect, found the right gap and just BOOOOOM

Now another small favorite of mine was when Thurmond made a tackle by basically lifting up the WR and carrying him out of bounds. Believe it was a missed original tackle that Thurmond followed up but the physicallity of it was just great to see
 
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Scottemojo":5hfpxmjo said:
Tical21":5hfpxmjo said:
Cool write-up, thanks.

I think Colinsworth was right though, we were in zone on the Thomas int. I think if you watch it again you'll see it.

We do hand off routes very well in man coverage. A lot of smart players with good communication, and well coached.

Press on the outside with 3 LB's in the middle screams a tampa 2, is it not? I guess it could be man, but I thought those types of coverages have essentially been phased out of the league as RB's became more prominent out of the backfield.
They only ran that look a few times, I am pretty sure if is what they matches a particular look from SF. I will check and see what the formation was.

On the interception, yeah, they are not pressing, everyone is off the WR a bit, but they are singled up. I guess since the plan was to keep all eyes on Kaepernick, it is a zone of sorts, but as the San Fran recievers got to the endzone, all three defenders pressed a guy inside the 5 yard cushion. It has the look to me that all three were playing off press but had single player responsibilities. In fact, I was of the opinion that Thurmond's guy had deep post to clear out the sideline, but never got there, so they ended up with two WR in the same area. I will look again
Looked again. 4 man front, linebacker under, Kam is the guy who looks like the 3rd LB, and single high safety. Press outside. Really, daring Kaep to throw.
 
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