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I think he's had a very nice start to his career and I'm still thinking he might be the team' LT year after next. In fairness though Scott, he has had TE help fairly often this season.Scottemojo":2ys5nhob said:
Fire Tom Cable
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Of course he has.hawksfansinceday1":9eksyw3w said:
The list of right tackles who don't get much help is a short one though.
Watch the Steelers take apart a Colts team that has been racking sacks. They did it with 7, even 8 man protections.
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For sure and I didn't mean it as a criticism of Britt. Hell, he's my adopt-a-rookie. I think he has a chance to be very good for this team for quite a number of years.Scottemojo":1arc73ck said:
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hawksfansinceday1":1hn021p6 said:
I would also point out that since Miller has been out, Britt has done pretty good, despite getting help from the turnstiles that are our current tight ends.
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VERY good point. He's getting better as he gains experience which is very promising considering we're talking a half season of his career.Scottemojo":2jtefpy0 said:
The other promising thing about Britt is that a couple the other tackles drafted higher, Robinson of the Lambs for sure and I think Mathews of the Falcons (though not sure), have been moved to guard while Britt is succeeding at tackle.
Since the general consensus defends Cable (for our woeful pass blocking) by citing his ability to put lines together that become road grading monster run machines. I've not witnessed that machine you reference.
I have zero say in this matter, so I'm not going to spend much time looking up stats. I don't need to. The eye test tells me everything I need to know. We are not a good pass-pro team and we aren't much better @ run-blocking. Someone that wants to argue this can do the legwork, but what I see is a maniacal running back that gets hit at the LOS many more times than not and makes his living with YAC.
Is that a road grading machine that Cable has assembled, or is that an extraordinarily fierce back, risking life and limb just to get to the 2nd level? What's funny is for all that we've got from Marshawn Lynch, we really have wasted much of his talent in Seattle.
Close your eyes and try to picture ML getting past the LOS and to the second level before first taking a jolt at the line. (Picture SA behind Jones and Hutch if it helps). Now, I'm not suggesting Okung and Carp should be mentioned in the same breath as those 2 MEN, but with my own eyes, I swear, I have seen other teams open holes for their running backs before.
I'm unsure how much goes on cable and how much on Pete. Okung is always hurt, but last year we use our 1st pick on a RB that must not have even been scouted. But in fairness to Pete and JS, Michael did tweet "I want to be on your team". So they must have felt he was good enough to replace Lynch (WTF?!) based on that.
So really, I don't care who gets the blame. I think there's enough to go around.
I have zero say in this matter, so I'm not going to spend much time looking up stats. I don't need to. The eye test tells me everything I need to know. We are not a good pass-pro team and we aren't much better @ run-blocking. Someone that wants to argue this can do the legwork, but what I see is a maniacal running back that gets hit at the LOS many more times than not and makes his living with YAC.
Is that a road grading machine that Cable has assembled, or is that an extraordinarily fierce back, risking life and limb just to get to the 2nd level? What's funny is for all that we've got from Marshawn Lynch, we really have wasted much of his talent in Seattle.
Close your eyes and try to picture ML getting past the LOS and to the second level before first taking a jolt at the line. (Picture SA behind Jones and Hutch if it helps). Now, I'm not suggesting Okung and Carp should be mentioned in the same breath as those 2 MEN, but with my own eyes, I swear, I have seen other teams open holes for their running backs before.
I'm unsure how much goes on cable and how much on Pete. Okung is always hurt, but last year we use our 1st pick on a RB that must not have even been scouted. But in fairness to Pete and JS, Michael did tweet "I want to be on your team". So they must have felt he was good enough to replace Lynch (WTF?!) based on that.
So really, I don't care who gets the blame. I think there's enough to go around.
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You can't compare Brees to Wilson, they draft lineman that can pas protect and form a pocket, we draft drive blockers and hope they can learn to pass protect.
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Scottemojo":2xh3h1eb said:
I can't actually think of 3 sacks that I'd pin solely on him off the top of my head. What I would assume though (without looking at stats) is that he's given up more than his fair share of pressures. It appears that he covers his assignments like a corner at times the way he reels back seemingly excessively. It's not necessarily a bad thing as his quick feet allow him to keep his guy in front of him way better than Okung appears to be able to, but it'd be nice to see him set himself a little earlier and really push a guy.
I've definitely been surprised with how serviceable he's been, I didn't think he looked like a second round tackle coming out, in fact, he didn't, credit must go to Cable in that respect.
