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Uncle Si":zk3nqhqn said:Seahaaaawks":zk3nqhqn said:Wasn’t it Earl who said in a post game interview after going 0-2 something to the effect of “he needs to be out here with us”. Basically calling Kam selfish for holding out without saying it? Now he is going to do the same thing...AgentDib":zk3nqhqn said:We were all worried about this for good reason but it's still very disappointing. Kam's holdout really hurt our 2015 season and I'm pessimistic that Earl's holdout will end up a similar way.
its not the same thing though...
that extra year makes a significant difference.
Move I liked: It's actually a move the Seahawks haven't made -- hanging on to Earl Thomas as opposed to giving him away. It wouldn't make sense for the Seahawks to trade their All-Pro free safety for anything less than a second-round pick, and it seems such an offer hasn't been made. Even a second-rounder wouldn't quite feel like an equitable return given Thomas' talent and how much he means to Seattle's defense, particularly now that several others are gone and with his safety mate, Kam Chancellor, in danger of never playing again. There's the potential for a messy standoff now that Thomas has said he won't report to the Seahawks until his contract situation is "resolved." But the team holds the leverage here, and dealing with a brief holdout would be wiser than dumping Thomas for a mid-round pick.
http://www.espn.com/blog/seattle-seahaw ... f-turnover
Very few stars retire from the team they blew up with. Not grim at all.adeltaY":2t8kbvky said:No LoB guys going to (voluntarily) retire with the Hawks? That's pretty grim.
BINGO.LudwigsDrummer":2k9x6wge said:ET is playing a little hard ball, so let's play along.
He will make about 9M this year. FT for him should be about 12M. We get ET for 21M for two years. Tough luck if he is unhappy. IMO, he might miss a game or 2, but no more than that.
That is the hammer our FO can fall back on if need be.
SpokaneHawks":3sowl3oc said:I cheer for the team not the player. I'm standing by my team right now, and Earl's little hold out is against the team. It will not end well for him or the franchise. You signed, play another season lights out and you'll be re-signed, if the Seahawks don't want you any longer and you have a great season, some other team will sign you. Play the game and enjoy it. Keep the mouths (Bennett, Sherm) out of your head and play.
hawkfan68":205kutor said:SpokaneHawks":205kutor said:I cheer for the team not the player. I'm standing by my team right now, and Earl's little hold out is against the team. It will not end well for him or the franchise. You signed, play another season lights out and you'll be re-signed, if the Seahawks don't want you any longer and you have a great season, some other team will sign you. Play the game and enjoy it. Keep the mouths (Bennett, Sherm) out of your head and play.
I understand your point about signed deals. Yes, the players should honor contracts they have agreed to and signed. On the other hand, teams don't honor them either. Sherman was under contract. A contract the Seahawks and Sherman agreed to. This is an example of the Seahawks not honoring their agreement with the player. Yes, I understand that Sherm was hurt and his status was uncertain at the time of his release. Still he was under a contract. That's the point.
Many other cases around the NFL that the players get shafted. So it's on both the players and teams to show more integrity with contracts. Neither side should sign or create a contract that either of them have no intentions of fulfilling. I'm very absolutely sure the team and the player have a very good idea of whether they are going to see the contract through at the time of signing. If they don't, then their agent is doing a horrible job (for players) and the front office for teams.
hawkfan68":38eruh36 said:Many other cases around the NFL that the players get shafted.
brimsalabim":1kbrw5jn said:Either sign him or trade him but either way get it done preseason so that it doesn’t become a distraction and so he doesn’t miss all of camp and Pre season only to get a deal done and pull a hammy
Sgt. Largent":547ix4z8 said:brimsalabim":547ix4z8 said:Either sign him or trade him but either way get it done preseason so that it doesn’t become a distraction and so he doesn’t miss all of camp and Pre season only to get a deal done and pull a hammy
I agree about the distraction part, but if Earl comes back, plays well and stays healthy then his value goes way up later in the season and next off season for trade value.
Obviously he can also play like crap and/or get hurt and his value plummets.
But it's in his best interest to come back, kick ass and then his trade value is at the level where we'll trade him..........and not just franchise him in hopes he eventually has a great year.
Seymour":mhco3kbj said:Sgt. Largent":mhco3kbj said:brimsalabim":mhco3kbj said:Either sign him or trade him but either way get it done preseason so that it doesn’t become a distraction and so he doesn’t miss all of camp and Pre season only to get a deal done and pull a hammy
I agree about the distraction part, but if Earl comes back, plays well and stays healthy then his value goes way up later in the season and next off season for trade value.
Obviously he can also play like crap and/or get hurt and his value plummets.
But it's in his best interest to come back, kick ass and then his trade value is at the level where we'll trade him..........and not just franchise him in hopes he eventually has a great year.
Why would his value go way up? I disagree. The guy was injured 2 x in 8 years after playing over 100 straight games. Once was iron man Kams leg whip that takes any player in the NFL out. Other than that, one hammy issue. His value is what it is. The only thing dropping his value to other teams is he opened his big mouth about Dallas and drove away his market demand, and also stated he wants Berry level contract (which was a mistake by KC BTW)
Sgt. Largent":21iyig7y said:Seymour":21iyig7y said:Sgt. Largent":21iyig7y said:brimsalabim":21iyig7y said:Either sign him or trade him but either way get it done preseason so that it doesn’t become a distraction and so he doesn’t miss all of camp and Pre season only to get a deal done and pull a hammy
I agree about the distraction part, but if Earl comes back, plays well and stays healthy then his value goes way up later in the season and next off season for trade value.
Obviously he can also play like crap and/or get hurt and his value plummets.
But it's in his best interest to come back, kick ass and then his trade value is at the level where we'll trade him..........and not just franchise him in hopes he eventually has a great year.
Why would his value go way up? I disagree. The guy was injured 2 x in 8 years after playing over 100 straight games. Once was iron man Kams leg whip that takes any player in the NFL out. Other than that, one hammy issue. His value is what it is. The only thing dropping his value to other teams is he opened his big mouth about Dallas and drove away his market demand, and also stated he wants Berry level contract (which was a mistake by KC BTW)
So you're saying if Earl comes back, plays every game lights out and goes to the Pro Bowl...................that doesn't increase his trade value next off season?
How could it not?
brimsalabim":sim9njvb said:Either sign him or trade him but either way get it done preseason so that it doesn’t become a distraction and so he doesn’t miss all of camp and Pre season only to get a deal done and pull a hammy
Seymour":3kylu1xj said:Because it's a given he is already at that level. Its 2-3 years from now that the big questions with huge contracts will come into play. It may help a little, just not a lot IMO.