EAGLES @ 49ERS

[chris98251]

Thank You.

Lol. These peeps talking like the Niners were lucky to win are cracking me up. The Eagles were lucky to even be in the game.

Yeah they were, people pulling fire alarms I was surprised that they didn't slash the team buses tires also, fear was running deep.

ALL of their points came on returns. ALL OF THEM. Through 3 quarters the Eagles had about 100 yards of offense. They ended with 213. By comparison, the 49ers RUSHED for 218. Niners had more rushing yards than the Eagled had TOTAL yards. The Eagle offense was on he 49ers side of the field ONCE. Shady had 17 yards rushing.



Also I imagine that your Turf was still a factor, the Eagles didn't know what shoes to wear, probably could not get any footing in that sandbox

The 49ers won TOP 42 and Change to 17 and change.

Time of possession can be misleading when you get turnovers and short fields, real stat is the score



Niners did all of this to a 3-0 team while down Aldon Smith, Navorro Bowman, Tramaine Brock, Glenn Dorsey, and lost Vernon Davis, Anthony Davis, and for a time during the game Joe Staley.

Hey look, Eagles had injured players also.

76 Barbre, Allen T 6-4 310 30 7 Missouri Southern State
53 Goode, Najee LB 6-0 244 25 3 West Virginia
57 Long, Travis LB 6-4 255 23 1 Washington State

69 Mathis, Evan G 6-5 298 32 10 Alabama

Bair, Brandon DE Foot FP FP FP Probable
Boykin, Brandon CB Hip FP FP FP Probable
Casey, James TE Knee FP FP FP Probable
Cox, Fletcher DE Back LP FP FP Probable
Huff, Josh WR Shoulder FP FP FP Questionable
Kelce, Jason C Hernia Out Out Out Out
Kendricks, Mychal LB Calf DNP DNP DNP Out
Matthews, Jordan WR Oblique FP FP FP Probable
Smith, Brad WR Groin FP FP FP Probable
Tobin, Matt T Ankle FP FP FP Probable
Watkins, Jaylen CB Hamstring FP FP FP Probable
Wolff, Earl S Knee FP FP FP Probable



If not for a pick 6 and two special teams miscues, this game would have been seen as a total A$$kicking. These returns were some sloppy special teams and a mistake on a trick coverage by Kap.

As Seattle fans we are used to seeing this scenario, you would think that the 49ers would change the script up from time to time but I guess they lack imagination.

If you guys are looking at this game like "wow, totally lucky win", you need to take off the blue sunglasses. It wasn't as pretty as it should have been, but the game shouldn't have even been close.

We are used to Ugly 49ers here, the Shock Value has worn off due to multiple exposures

Fun to spin things the other way sometimes

 

[Marvin49]

Hate to agree with a Niner fan, but Marv's right, the 9ers dominated Philly. Take away their run game and the Eagles fold. Foles got exposed finally and he looked really bad in his decision making. The 9ers defense looked pretty damned good out there today. Their only flaw is really Kaepernick. Much as they love him, the guy is inconsistent on his passing accuracy. He can rifle in a sniper shot for a TD vs the Hawks one game and throw some pretty bad looking passes against a terrible Eagles defense another day. Even Harbaugh looked fed up with it today. That, more than anything, is why the 9ers are not likely to win it all. But they were not lucky to win today, the Eagles were lucky to even be in that game.

Just curious why peeps thought Kap played so badly. He did fall for that trap play and took a bad delay of game at the end there, but other than that he didn't play to badly. The TD to Gore was almost inhuman. He missed a few throws, but it's not like he played poorly.

Funny fact I read before the game. Seattle fans view Kap as a turnover machine, but did you know that going into the game he had the third LOWEST INT % in NFL HISTORY? I wanna say it was 1.9 or something like that. Foles was #1 at 1.3.

 

[Marvin49]

Thank You.

Lol. These peeps talking like the Niners were lucky to win are cracking me up. The Eagles were lucky to even be in the game.

Yeah they were, people pulling fire alarms I was surprised that they didn't slash the team buses tires also, fear was running deep.

ALL of their points came on returns. ALL OF THEM. Through 3 quarters the Eagles had about 100 yards of offense. They ended with 213. By comparison, the 49ers RUSHED for 218. Niners had more rushing yards than the Eagled had TOTAL yards. The Eagle offense was on he 49ers side of the field ONCE. Shady had 17 yards rushing.



Also I imagine that your Turf was still a factor, the Eagles didn't know what shoes to wear, probably could not get any footing in that sandbox

The 49ers won TOP 42 and Change to 17 and change.

Time of possession can be misleading when you get turnovers and short fields, real stat is the score



Niners did all of this to a 3-0 team while down Aldon Smith, Navorro Bowman, Tramaine Brock, Glenn Dorsey, and lost Vernon Davis, Anthony Davis, and for a time during the game Joe Staley.

Hey look, Eagles had injured players also.

76 Barbre, Allen T 6-4 310 30 7 Missouri Southern State
53 Goode, Najee LB 6-0 244 25 3 West Virginia
57 Long, Travis LB 6-4 255 23 1 Washington State

69 Mathis, Evan G 6-5 298 32 10 Alabama

Bair, Brandon DE Foot FP FP FP Probable
Boykin, Brandon CB Hip FP FP FP Probable
Casey, James TE Knee FP FP FP Probable
Cox, Fletcher DE Back LP FP FP Probable
Huff, Josh WR Shoulder FP FP FP Questionable
Kelce, Jason C Hernia Out Out Out Out
Kendricks, Mychal LB Calf DNP DNP DNP Out
Matthews, Jordan WR Oblique FP FP FP Probable
Smith, Brad WR Groin FP FP FP Probable
Tobin, Matt T Ankle FP FP FP Probable
Watkins, Jaylen CB Hamstring FP FP FP Probable
Wolff, Earl S Knee FP FP FP Probable



If not for a pick 6 and two special teams miscues, this game would have been seen as a total A$$kicking. These returns were some sloppy special teams and a mistake on a trick coverage by Kap.

As Seattle fans we are used to seeing this scenario, you would think that the 49ers would change the script up from time to time but I guess they lack imagination.

If you guys are looking at this game like "wow, totally lucky win", you need to take off the blue sunglasses. It wasn't as pretty as it should have been, but the game shouldn't have even been close.

We are used to Ugly 49ers here, the Shock Value has worn off due to multiple exposures



Fun to spin things the other way sometimes

Yes, I'm aware how injured the Eagles were. Particularly up front. Doesn't change the fact that they were thoroughly dominated. Niners weren't lucky to get a win. They dominated the team on the other side of the ball and it was only close because of the returns.

 

[Sports Hernia]

Thank You.

Lol. These peeps talking like the Niners were lucky to win are cracking me up. The Eagles were lucky to even be in the game.

Yeah they were, people pulling fire alarms I was surprised that they didn't slash the team buses tires also, fear was running deep.

ALL of their points came on returns. ALL OF THEM. Through 3 quarters the Eagles had about 100 yards of offense. They ended with 213. By comparison, the 49ers RUSHED for 218. Niners had more rushing yards than the Eagled had TOTAL yards. The Eagle offense was on he 49ers side of the field ONCE. Shady had 17 yards rushing.



Also I imagine that your Turf was still a factor, the Eagles didn't know what shoes to wear, probably could not get any footing in that sandbox

The 49ers won TOP 42 and Change to 17 and change.

Time of possession can be misleading when you get turnovers and short fields, real stat is the score



Niners did all of this to a 3-0 team while down Aldon Smith, Navorro Bowman, Tramaine Brock, Glenn Dorsey, and lost Vernon Davis, Anthony Davis, and for a time during the game Joe Staley.

Hey look, Eagles had injured players also.

76 Barbre, Allen T 6-4 310 30 7 Missouri Southern State
53 Goode, Najee LB 6-0 244 25 3 West Virginia
57 Long, Travis LB 6-4 255 23 1 Washington State

69 Mathis, Evan G 6-5 298 32 10 Alabama

Bair, Brandon DE Foot FP FP FP Probable
Boykin, Brandon CB Hip FP FP FP Probable
Casey, James TE Knee FP FP FP Probable
Cox, Fletcher DE Back LP FP FP Probable
Huff, Josh WR Shoulder FP FP FP Questionable
Kelce, Jason C Hernia Out Out Out Out
Kendricks, Mychal LB Calf DNP DNP DNP Out
Matthews, Jordan WR Oblique FP FP FP Probable
Smith, Brad WR Groin FP FP FP Probable
Tobin, Matt T Ankle FP FP FP Probable
Watkins, Jaylen CB Hamstring FP FP FP Probable
Wolff, Earl S Knee FP FP FP Probable



If not for a pick 6 and two special teams miscues, this game would have been seen as a total A$$kicking. These returns were some sloppy special teams and a mistake on a trick coverage by Kap.

As Seattle fans we are used to seeing this scenario, you would think that the 49ers would change the script up from time to time but I guess they lack imagination.

If you guys are looking at this game like "wow, totally lucky win", you need to take off the blue sunglasses. It wasn't as pretty as it should have been, but the game shouldn't have even been close.

We are used to Ugly 49ers here, the Shock Value has worn off due to multiple exposures

Fun to spin things the other way sometimes

Thread win goes to Chris! :th2thumbs:

 

[Sports Hernia]

Hate to agree with a Niner fan, but Marv's right, the 9ers dominated Philly. Take away their run game and the Eagles fold. Foles got exposed finally and he looked really bad in his decision making. The 9ers defense looked pretty damned good out there today. Their only flaw is really Kaepernick. Much as they love him, the guy is inconsistent on his passing accuracy. He can rifle in a sniper shot for a TD vs the Hawks one game and throw some pretty bad looking passes against a terrible Eagles defense another day. Even Harbaugh looked fed up with it today. That, more than anything, is why the 9ers are not likely to win it all. But they were not lucky to win today, the Eagles were lucky to even be in that game.

Just curious why peeps thought Kap played so badly. He did fall for that trap play and took a bad delay of game at the end there, but other than that he didn't play to badly. The TD to Gore was almost inhuman. He missed a few throws, but it's not like he played poorly.

Funny fact I read before the game. Seattle fans view Kap as a turnover machine, but did you know that going into the game he had the third LOWEST INT % in NFL HISTORY? I wanna say it was 1.9 or something like that. Foles was #1 at 1.3.

Melvin you can spin it anyway you want and cherry pick stats all you want, but I'm happy Kraepperchoke is your QB!
Why do you think that is???

 

[Sports Hernia]

Hate to agree with a Niner fan, but Marv's right, the 9ers dominated Philly. Take away their run game and the Eagles fold. Foles got exposed finally and he looked really bad in his decision making. The 9ers defense looked pretty damned good out there today. Their only flaw is really Kaepernick. Much as they love him, the guy is inconsistent on his passing accuracy. He can rifle in a sniper shot for a TD vs the Hawks one game and throw some pretty bad looking passes against a terrible Eagles defense another day. Even Harbaugh looked fed up with it today. That, more than anything, is why the 9ers are not likely to win it all. But they were not lucky to win today, the Eagles were lucky to even be in that game.

Just curious why peeps thought Kap played so badly. He did fall for that trap play and took a bad delay of game at the end there, but other than that he didn't play to badly. The TD to Gore was almost inhuman. He missed a few throws, but it's not like he played poorly.

Funny fact I read before the game. Seattle fans view Kap as a turnover machine, but did you know that going into the game he had the third LOWEST INT % in NFL HISTORY? I wanna say it was 1.9 or something like that. Foles was #1 at 1.3.

Melvin you can spin it anyway you want and cherry pick stats all you want, but I'm happy Kraepperchoke is your QB!
Why do you think that is???

 

[Smellyman]

that game almost mirrored the wsu/utah game yesterday. The team on the ropes pretty much dominated except for a pick 6 and special team blunders. Had to come back for the win.


Philly's oline is dog poop. they had no shot.

 

[lvnginhwktwn]

A lot of our problem is Kap, but I think more so it's Harbaugh and Roman. Kap needs to stop following Roman and Harbaugh so blindly.

 

[Marvin49]

A lot of our problem is Kap, but I think more so it's Harbaugh and Roman. Kap needs to stop following Roman and Harbaugh so blindly.

I'm not arguing so much as I'm just curious...what was so bad about Kaps performance?

I don't think he had a great game, but I don't think he was terrible. I don't see what peeps who say he played so poorly are seeing. I saw him under ALOT of pressure and made one big mistake.

I mean...I compare this season to last year where he failed to have more than 200 yards passing for like 9 straight games or something and he's been over 200 in every game. Outside of the three INT game vs the Bears he's got 5 TDS and 1 INT.

Not trying to make the case he's playing like an MVP right now, but I think his struggles are greatly exaggerated.

 

[chris98251]

Seriously speaking.

Kap if he plays as a Game Manager instead of trying to be a game changer and lets the game come to him may grow and learn and develop his skills and progress. It's reading headlines and trying to live up to them where he gets in trouble.

Learning the nuances of the position and growing into it could make him a game changer if he allows his game to develop versus trying to hard to make it happen now.

 

[Marvin49]

Seriously speaking.

Kap if he plays as a Game Manager instead of trying to be a game changer and lets the game come to him may grow and learn and develop his skills and progress. It's reading headlines and trying to live up to them where he gets in trouble.

Learning the nuances of the position and growing into it could make him a game changer if he allows his game to develop versus trying to hard to make it happen now.

Probably some truth there, but I guess I'm just not seeing examples of his supposed horrible play. Compared to last year at this time he's having a great year.

 

[Hasselbeck]

I really think Foles is playing with a lot more pain than people realize... dude seemed off all game.. he had open receivers all game and just could not make the throws until the last drive and even then.. he was missing guys.

Kaep was his usual shaky one-read self, but I think the biggest reason for that is the Niners OL looked dreadful .. the Eagles were in Kaep's face over and over and over with just 3-4 men rushing.

In the end, yeah the Niners dominated TOP and yards, but stats are deceiving .. if Foles plays just a little better.. Philadelphia wins.

 

[Barakas]

Seriously speaking.

Kap if he plays as a Game Manager instead of trying to be a game changer and lets the game come to him may grow and learn and develop his skills and progress. It's reading headlines and trying to live up to them where he gets in trouble.

Learning the nuances of the position and growing into it could make him a game changer if he allows his game to develop versus trying to hard to make it happen now.

Probably some truth there, but I guess I'm just not seeing examples of his supposed horrible play. Compared to last year at this time he's having a great year.

I guess I'm just not seeing why you continue to try and convince Seahawk fans of the greatness of the Krapperdink.

I'll point the way to a place where your opinion may actually matter: http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/

 

[Marvin49]

Seriously speaking.

Kap if he plays as a Game Manager instead of trying to be a game changer and lets the game come to him may grow and learn and develop his skills and progress. It's reading headlines and trying to live up to them where he gets in trouble.

Learning the nuances of the position and growing into it could make him a game changer if he allows his game to develop versus trying to hard to make it happen now.

Probably some truth there, but I guess I'm just not seeing examples of his supposed horrible play. Compared to last year at this time he's having a great year.

I guess I'm just not seeing why you continue to try and convince Seahawk fans of the greatness of the Krapperdink.

I'll point the way to a place where your opinion may actually matter: http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/

Right. Because THATS what I said.

I'm seriously curious what peeps are seeing that I'm not. Not trying to convince anyone. I'm seeing NINER fans here saying he's the problem, but I guess I just don't see it. Sure, he could have played better, but he was hardly the reason the game was close. He gave them 6 but it was the special teams that gave them the rest of the points. Perhaps you could put the first on on him when a guy came unblocked up the middle...but I can't put that sack on him.

I'm just curious. What's he doing that's so horrible?

 

[volsunghawk]

I think the reason that most Seahawks fans prefer to think of Kaepernick as a crappy QB are due to the following:

• He's started 32 games, 26 in the regular season and 6 in the playoffs.
  He's been the starting QB 4 times against Seattle.
  He's thrown 7 picks and lost 2 fumbles in those 4 games.
  His completion percentage is barely over 50% in those games, and he's passed for an average of less than 150 yards per game, with a passer rating of 53.4.

And if he only ever played against Seattle, he would indeed be a terrible QB. But in his other 28 games, he HAS been pretty good (even better if you don't count games against Indy or Carolina). I think people need to give Kaepernick a bit more credit for his performances, because if you look at his play against most other teams in the league, it doesn't match up with his play against the Seahawks. And that should be taken as a credit to the Seahawks D - not many teams can make Kaepernick look as bad as we do.

 

[Marvin49]

I think the reason that most Seahawks fans prefer to think of Kaepernick as a crappy QB are due to the following:

• He's started 32 games, 26 in the regular season and 6 in the playoffs.
  He's been the starting QB 4 times against Seattle.
  He's thrown 7 picks and lost 2 fumbles in those 4 games.
  His completion percentage is barely over 50% in those games, and he's passed for an average of less than 150 yards per game, with a passer rating of 53.4.

And if he only ever played against Seattle, he would indeed be a terrible QB. But in his other 28 games, he HAS been pretty good (even better if you don't count games against Indy or Carolina). I think people need to give Kaepernick a bit more credit for his performances, because if you look at his play against most other teams in the league, it doesn't match up with his play against the Seahawks. And that should be taken as a credit to the Seahawks D - not many teams can make Kaepernick look as bad as we do.

I think that is 100% true.

A Seattles got his number right now. I think that drastically shades the opinion of many in this forum.

The prob with that is that they do that to ALOT of QBs because the have the best secondary in the NFL and a damn good pass rush.

 

[Laloosh]

Hate to agree with a Niner fan, but Marv's right, the 9ers dominated Philly. Take away their run game and the Eagles fold. Foles got exposed finally and he looked really bad in his decision making. The 9ers defense looked pretty damned good out there today. Their only flaw is really Kaepernick. Much as they love him, the guy is inconsistent on his passing accuracy. He can rifle in a sniper shot for a TD vs the Hawks one game and throw some pretty bad looking passes against a terrible Eagles defense another day. Even Harbaugh looked fed up with it today. That, more than anything, is why the 9ers are not likely to win it all. But they were not lucky to win today, the Eagles were lucky to even be in that game.

Just curious why peeps thought Kap played so badly. He did fall for that trap play and took a bad delay of game at the end there, but other than that he didn't play to badly. The TD to Gore was almost inhuman. He missed a few throws, but it's not like he played poorly.

Funny fact I read before the game. Seattle fans view Kap as a turnover machine, but did you know that going into the game he had the third LOWEST INT % in NFL HISTORY? I wanna say it was 1.9 or something like that. Foles was #1 at 1.3.

The most obvious response would be to point out the 56% completion percentage, consistent passes behind and over receivers and not handling pressure very well.

Personally, I thought he looked pretty inconsistent all game. Seems like he's getting a taste of what Russ had to deal with last year. An o-line that isn't giving him a clean pocket to sit back and comfortably make throws from and I don't think he handles it all very well (see Russell Wilson).

The tosses to Stevie for the TD and Boldin along the sideline in the second quarter were really nice (though I thought Boldin pushed off). Was nice to see your boy Crabtree finally get called on that btw. The TD to Gore was an example of how terrible Philly's tackling can be in the secondary.

Philly's offense was disgusting. When Foles wasn't completely overthrowing his receivers, his passes were under thrown or directly to a SF player. Their receivers coughed up, what, two fumbles? Had Philly's offense been capable of scoring one TD total, you lose the game. I'd call that a fairly lucky win, all things considered.

SF's defense and run game were the story of the game but not unlike the DAL game, the opposing team did a lot to hurt themselves.

 

[Sports Hernia]

A lot of our problem is Kap, but I think more so it's Harbaugh and Roman. Kap needs to stop following Roman and Harbaugh so blindly.

I'm not arguing so much as I'm just curious...what was so bad about Kaps performance?

I don't think he had a great game, but I don't think he was terrible. I don't see what peeps who say he played so poorly are seeing. I saw him under ALOT of pressure and made one big mistake.

I mean...I compare this season to last year where he failed to have more than 200 yards passing for like 9 straight games or something and he's been over 200 in every game. Outside of the three INT game vs the Bears he's got 5 TDS and 1 INT.

Not trying to make the case he's playing like an MVP right now, but I think his struggles are greatly exaggerated.

Melvin, Living is right..... I don't know if you listened to the game but your play by play guy Tim Ryan was ripping Kraepperchoke most of the game for his indecisiveness throughout the game and says he has to realize things quicker, you know have a plan B if plan A isn't going to work, he was saying he is way too slow in his secondary reads.

I was in and out of the car and listening to Sirius radio since the Hawks had a bye, it was pretty evident he was getting perturbed by your QB's play. You're lucky he can run because if he couldn't he'd be holding a clipboard.

 

[Marvin49]

Hate to agree with a Niner fan, but Marv's right, the 9ers dominated Philly. Take away their run game and the Eagles fold. Foles got exposed finally and he looked really bad in his decision making. The 9ers defense looked pretty damned good out there today. Their only flaw is really Kaepernick. Much as they love him, the guy is inconsistent on his passing accuracy. He can rifle in a sniper shot for a TD vs the Hawks one game and throw some pretty bad looking passes against a terrible Eagles defense another day. Even Harbaugh looked fed up with it today. That, more than anything, is why the 9ers are not likely to win it all. But they were not lucky to win today, the Eagles were lucky to even be in that game.

Just curious why peeps thought Kap played so badly. He did fall for that trap play and took a bad delay of game at the end there, but other than that he didn't play to badly. The TD to Gore was almost inhuman. He missed a few throws, but it's not like he played poorly.

Funny fact I read before the game. Seattle fans view Kap as a turnover machine, but did you know that going into the game he had the third LOWEST INT % in NFL HISTORY? I wanna say it was 1.9 or something like that. Foles was #1 at 1.3.

The most obvious response would be to point out the 56% completion percentage, consistent passes behind and over receivers and not handling pressure very well.

Personally, I thought he looked pretty inconsistent all game. Seems like he's getting a taste of what Russ had to deal with last year. An o-line that isn't giving him a clean pocket to sit back and comfortably make throws from and I don't think he handles it all very well (see Russell Wilson).

The tosses to Stevie for the TD and Boldin along the sideline in the second quarter were really nice (though I thought Boldin pushed off). Was nice to see your boy Crabtree finally get called on that btw. The TD to Gore was an example of how terrible Philly's tackling can be in the secondary.

Philly's offense was disgusting. When Foles wasn't completely overthrowing his receivers, his passes were under thrown or directly to a SF player. Their receivers coughed up, what, two fumbles? Had Philly's offense been capable of scoring one TD total, you lose the game. I'd call that a fairly lucky win, all things considered.

SF's defense and run game were the story of the game but not unlike the DAL game, the opposing team did a lot to hurt themselves.

I guess I can see that on the comp %, but he had at least 5 or 5 drops including a pretty one to Vernon over the middle.

He's completing 70% of his passes on the season tho with a 91 rating and that's including the horror story vs the Bears.

OBTW, he's also RUSHED for 187 yards including 59 today.

All well tho. I guess I'm just not seeing it. I'm sure peeps will say it because I'm a homer, but whatever's clever. I see game playing SOOOO much better than he did at this point last year.

 

[SalishHawkFan]

Probably some truth there, but I guess I'm just not seeing examples of his supposed horrible play. Compared to last year at this time he's having a great year.

I guess I'm just not seeing why you continue to try and convince Seahawk fans of the greatness of the Krapperdink.

I'll point the way to a place where your opinion may actually matter: http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/

Right. Because THATS what I said.

I'm seriously curious what peeps are seeing that I'm not. Not trying to convince anyone. I'm seeing NINER fans here saying he's the problem, but I guess I just don't see it. Sure, he could have played better, but he was hardly the reason the game was close. He gave them 6 but it was the special teams that gave them the rest of the points. Perhaps you could put the first on on him when a guy came unblocked up the middle...but I can't put that sack on him.

I'm just curious. What's he doing that's so horrible?

Kap really is a one read then run QB. He is inconsistent on his accuracy. Pete Carroll said it best before the NFCCG: Hawks wanted to force Kap to have to make plays with his arm. When he makes plays with his feet, he's elite. When he's forced to throw it, he's not terrible, but against an elite defense, he gets eaten up. Vs. Seattle he has 4 TD's 9 INTs.

It's against elite D's that his inaccuracy gets taken advantage of.