Delay of game at the end

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They obviously have goal line plays planned (right...right?). They were trying to sub in the goal line package. This situation was a little weird with the Fant thing, but come on...

...still inexcusable.
 

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It was such a stupid mistake and it cost us the game. That could have overcome it but did not.
 

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It is strange because I think trying to sub people in to possibly run the ball was the idiotic part. You should be throwing in that situation 100% anyway with no timeouts IMO. If you call a run play and it is stuffed then what? They had around 25 seconds right? If you throw it you should have 4 chances. If you run you might have two? To be honest I thought at the time they were almost better off at the 6 yard line.
 
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Pete just doesn’t do goal line situations well. He’s now blown a SB, and a Divisional Championship.

This one to me is a real serious coaching error, even if it was on Schotty or whomever the team seems to make at least one galactically stupid coaching mistake every game now. This is becoming a discouraging trend.

The game or their best shot to win was lost by the coaches. This time it was clear.
 

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What happened is Fant got injured and was motioning to the sideline that he could stay in. There was no coordinator in the press box to see his signaling and the resulting time loss happened.
 

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OpHawk":20uixusb said:
Imagine a Belichic coached team doing that in that situation lol


No, he only loses to the Dolphins at home with a first round bye on the line.
 

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Largent80":1s4nnnpk said:
What happened is Fant got injured and was motioning to the sideline that he could stay in. There was no coordinator in the press box to see his signaling and the resulting time loss happened.

That was on the spike.

Fant waved off the sideline, so that's not a valid excuse for me. This was on Pete, he once again showed how indecisive he is with in game playcalls.

Whatever system he and his position coaches have for these scenarios is garbage and needs to be scrapped and fixed. Because it happens a LOT. Too many needless TO's due to indecision, and too many times Russell's clapping his hands frantically with no time on the playclock.

Russell should have just taken over and called a play, and not waited.
 
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At least Pete is wearing the responsibility for the delay. That said, someone on the coaching staff is doing a poor job with advising about time management.

Pete needs help with this b/c he makes a lot of inexplicable decisions with time and situations.
 

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jammerhawk":20wakljl said:
At least Pete is wearing the responsibility for the delay. That said, someone on the coaching staff is doing a poor job with advising about time management.

Pete needs help with this b/c he makes a lot of inexplicable decisions with time and situations.

I agree with you 100% but do you think Pete is open to changing and realising he needs help with that?
 

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What is taking responsibility though? Saying it's his fault and moving on or actually trying to fix these bone headed mistakes? It seems like option 1 because dumb crap happens too often.
 

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Sgt. Largent":2urie4sl said:
Largent80":2urie4sl said:
What happened is Fant got injured and was motioning to the sideline that he could stay in. There was no coordinator in the press box to see his signaling and the resulting time loss happened.

That was on the spike.

Fant waved off the sideline, so that's not a valid excuse for me. This was on Pete, he once again showed how indecisive he is with in game playcalls.

Whatever system he and his position coaches have for these scenarios is garbage and needs to be scrapped and fixed. Because it happens a LOT. Too many needless TO's due to indecision, and too many times Russell's clapping his hands frantically with no time on the playclock.

Russell should have just taken over and called a play, and not waited.

Nope. Pete is not responsible for personnel calls and that's where this squarely lies, NOT on Pete. These things need to change.
 

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Largent80":1spahuqs said:
Sgt. Largent":1spahuqs said:
Largent80":1spahuqs said:
What happened is Fant got injured and was motioning to the sideline that he could stay in. There was no coordinator in the press box to see his signaling and the resulting time loss happened.

That was on the spike.

Fant waved off the sideline, so that's not a valid excuse for me. This was on Pete, he once again showed how indecisive he is with in game playcalls.

Whatever system he and his position coaches have for these scenarios is garbage and needs to be scrapped and fixed. Because it happens a LOT. Too many needless TO's due to indecision, and too many times Russell's clapping his hands frantically with no time on the playclock.

Russell should have just taken over and called a play, and not waited.

Nope. Pete is not responsible for personnel calls and that's where this squarely lies, NOT on Pete. These things need to change.

It's Pete's system that the coordinators, position coaches and players use and practice.

So yes, it is Pete. Obviously whatever his process and system is for getting the right personnel group into the game and play called in a timely manner is not efficient.

It's not just this play, it's all game every game that Russell's running the clock down to zero trying to get his protection right and run the play...........to the point of how many times we have to burn a time out? At least once a game or two.

That's too often, and that's a systemic issue of Pete.
 

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Largent80":52h2vgg9 said:
Sgt. Largent":52h2vgg9 said:
Largent80":52h2vgg9 said:
What happened is Fant got injured and was motioning to the sideline that he could stay in. There was no coordinator in the press box to see his signaling and the resulting time loss happened.

That was on the spike.

Fant waved off the sideline, so that's not a valid excuse for me. This was on Pete, he once again showed how indecisive he is with in game playcalls.

Whatever system he and his position coaches have for these scenarios is garbage and needs to be scrapped and fixed. Because it happens a LOT. Too many needless TO's due to indecision, and too many times Russell's clapping his hands frantically with no time on the playclock.

Russell should have just taken over and called a play, and not waited.

Nope. Pete is not responsible for personnel calls and that's where this squarely lies, NOT on Pete. These things need to change.

Pete is responsible for insuring that everyone is prepared for the situations that can happen here. Their failure is his failure. He needs to (and he did) own it, and he also needs to insure it doesn't happen again
 

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Pete obviously preferred to play the Eagles on the road than the Vikings at home. I agree with Pete.
 

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