TwistedHusky":3f48ov4t said:
You guys are crazy.
Montana is the best QB of all time and it is not even close.
Remember that Brady is the recipient of quite a few rule changes that made it a lot easier on QBs. A lot easier to the tune of almost 50-100 yds of extra passing yards in a game.
Additionally, QBs did not have near the safety/protections they had when Montana was QB.
But I think the real answer was I watched Montana with the Chiefs singlehandedly beat one of the best football teams I ever saw, which was a Juggernaut Oilers team that absolutely dominated the Cowboys team (and near everyone else that year) that won the SB. They were going to walk to the SB and Montana and some guy name Byrd shut them down.
Montana was still a world beater as a "too old" castoff on a much worse team.
Brady won more but Montana vs Brady wouldn't be close with today's rules. A lot of rule changes had to go in before Brady could get all those passes to the SB.
All of this.
That Oilers team also beat the Steve Young Niners 10-7 at home that year. They were an AFC team good enough to win a super bowl in an NFC dominated decade but inferior teams like the Bills surpassed them.
And a reminder about comparing stats -- Brady wins GOAT discussions based on longevity, which should be respected and accounted for.
But if we look at their first ten seasons as entrenched starters, it doesn't seem as GOAT like for one of them:
1981 - 1990 : Montana, 4-0 in SBs
2001 - 2010: Brady, 3-1 in SBs
After 1990, Montana was no longer a starting Niner QB due to injury. He would miss all of 1991 and essentially all of 1992 to injury. He only played two real seasons after the Leonard Marshall hit.
As for Brady, it took him four more seasons to match the 4th ring in 2014.
If Brady's career ended anywhere up to 2013, 2014, he wouldn't be thought of quite as highly. Those Brady GOAT talks really didn't even appear until after he beat the Seahawks, since there was a period of time people had to be convinced he was even better than Peyton Manning!
So while Brady didn't have to contend with harder rules, he did benefit from being able to play longer which allowed the stats to continue growing. No f'n way Thomas Brady plays to 40 years old back in the day.
Meanwhile, Montana fans have to contend with how guys with far less rings were better than him.....Elway, Marino, Young, Favre, etc.
Brady gets a pass for whatever f'n reason. 5 > 4, but 4 is not > 2, 0, 1, etc. :roll: