Darnold

[Jac]

I could explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

Sam = Geno 2.0

Okay, Darnold led two touchdowns to win the game. Can you confirm whether the punt return team was on the field or not for those drives? We're lucky to be gifted your football insight.

 

[CallMeADawg]

Okay, Darnold led two touchdowns to win the game. Can you confirm whether the punt return team was on the field or not for those drives? We're lucky to be gifted your football insight.

Two touchdowns and 3 2pt conversions.

 

[warden]

No, I don’t. I was right. This game swung once Sam started playing well and not turning it over.

If anything, you all owe me an apology. This team goes as far as Sam will take them. End of discussion

45 active players on the team. This team goes as far as the 45 players take them

 

[SeahawkSteve80]

45 active players on the team. This team goes as far as the 45 players take them

Exactly! Sam is just the QB

 

[glenwo2]

I'm glad for the win but I don't trust Darnold. This kid has got to clean up the stupid decisions. Why is this kid so shook? I don't get it. All the media outlets are making all kinds of excuses on why the Rams lost and they are not giving Seattle any credit whatsoever. That ball was a **** hair away of getting swatted for that winning 2 point conversion. Darnold has to clean up a lot because that shit won't fly in the tournament. I still think we should try and get Burrows from the Bengals next season.

Absurd Burrows idea notwithstanding ('cause there's no way in hell the Bengals make any trade unless the team gives up 3 First-rounders), what is up with this "kid" stuff?

He's 28, not 18.

 

[glenwo2]

I could explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

Sam = Geno 2.0

 

[hawker84]

Funny thread. The chicken Littles were out in force early least night.

 

[glenwo2]

Exactly! Sam is just the QB

Oh I get it. So this is where your "The QB position isn't all that important" statement is coming from.

You're saying that it's a part of the T-E-A-M which is correct.

But a good part of a team's success falls on how the QB does.

 

[Biscanebay12]

Okay, Darnold led two touchdowns to win the game. Can you confirm whether the punt return team was on the field or not for those drives? We're lucky to be gifted your football insight.

Hey you're entitled to your opinion. Mine is pretty obvious, I don't think Darnold is the guy.

I guess we'll see how it all plays out.

 

[hawks85]

Absurd Burrows idea notwithstanding ('cause there's no way in hell the Bengals make any trade unless the team gives up 3 First-rounders), what is up with this "kid" stuff?

He's 28, not 18.

I'm 51, so Darnold is a kid to me

 

[Jac]

Hey you're entitled to your opinion. Mine is pretty obvious, I don't think Darnold is the guy.

I guess we'll see how it all plays out.

Ehhh, ok. Nobody is saying he's Patrick Mahomes. He's a really good QB that gives the team a chance to win. Excluding Stafford's career year, that puts him square in the mix in the tier right below him. The Rams have obviously given him trouble, and he led two drives at the end of the game to beat them last night. Yet, in a thread titled "Darnold", you're complaining that the fans are talking about "Darnold" and not the punt return.

 

[glenwo2]

I'm 51, so Darnold is a kid to me

I'm 48 so I kind of get your POV.

Man...getting old sucks.

 

[TwistedHusky]

Darnold had 3 games to change the narrative. HE HAS TO BE GOOD IN ALL 3 GAMES to show this is not a fluke but a trend.

He made some great throws at the end, and honestly - I was completely shocked when he got it together for that TD pass and 2 point conversion. But we wouldn't need the OT heroics if he would just not put the ball in harm's way. Still he redeemed himself.
And candidly, it does not matter what WE think but what HE thinks. If he suddenly realizes that he can produce under pressure, if he stops panicking when the first read is gone or pressure is coming....it makes a huge difference. We really don't need him to be an All Star - our receivers are good enough to help him out there. Just stop throwing stupid picks and stop folding as the pressure dials up.

In professional sports, nobody cares about intent. Only results matter. So he has to deliver.
And he has to stop making it tougher on the rest of the team, or undoing all their effort.

It is really tough to defend throwing a pick to a NT when in the Red Zone. The other was an awful 'basically a pick six but a yard short'. Still resulted in a TD. Thats at least a 10 point swing.

Everyone else was carrying their weight in that game, but Darnold was dragging the team down. (Hell even K was ripping off long TD runs) He deserved all the invective he was getting. The great comeback doesn't mean he didn't earn the crap people were flinging at him earlier.

But he can change the narrative. He doesn't have to be stellar in either game. Just don't keep hurting the team. And make throws when we need them. (I get our inconsistent run game makes it tough on the QB...but any chances we have hinge on our best player, JSN, delivering for us. Sam has to get him the ball. Our OC needs to help him, not put him in some of the crappy situations he has been.)

To change this narrative he will have to:

1 - Win and deliver in the next 2 games.
2 - Win a playoff game and not be a net negative in that game.

He doesn't need to get to the SB but without showing that playing well in key moments is now a trend and not a fluke? People are going to see that as just a wild moment in a wild game that had a bunch of wild moments.

 

[glenwo2]

Ehhh, ok. Nobody is saying he's Patrick Mahomes. He's a really good QB that gives the team a chance to win. Excluding Stafford's career year, that puts him square in the mix in the tier right below him. The Rams have obviously given him trouble, and he led two drives at the end of the game to beat them last night. Yet, in a thread titled "Darnold", you're complaining that the fans are talking about "Darnold" and not the punt return.

To be fair, though, this thread was not exactly a "Darnold Appreciation Thread" when it was made.

 

[glenwo2]

Darnold had 3 games to change the narrative. HE HAS TO BE GOOD IN ALL 3 GAMES to show this is not a fluke but a trend.

You're referring to the Final 2 games plus his first playoff game, right?

'Cause there are only 2 games remaining in the Regular season (The Panthers and the Whiners).

 

[glenwo2]

It is really tough to defend throwing a pick to a NT when in the Red Zone. The other was an awful 'basically a pick six but a yard short'. Still resulted in a TD. Thats at least a 10 point swing.

I think that 2nd pick was a panic-throw because he had Verse about to send him to the Shadow Realm.

And instead of just turning his back and holding onto the football to take the sack, he throws a dumb pass reminiscent of what he did in NY.

The first pick was more a case of him getting completely fooled by Shula's disguised formations but also he was determined to throw the ball in that area no matter what as if it was a pre-determined pass (I despise those) that is a 50/50 proposition most of the time. It felt like he just closed his eyes and threw the ball there.

 

[TwistedHusky]

You're referring to the Final 2 games plus his first playoff game, right?

'Cause there are only 2 games remaining in the Regular season (The Panthers and the Whiners).

I am counting last night as the first 1. He has 2 more.

But good point, if we are a number 1 seed...he probably has to either win a playoff game or have a hell of a game in a losing effort. Either works. Winning works better.

 

[glenwo2]

To change this narrative he will have to:

1 - Win and deliver in the next 2 games.
2 - Win a playoff game and not be a net negative in that game.

I think he will accomplish #1.

The Panthers are still the Panthers while the Forty-Whiners do not scare me one bit.

They don't have the Defense or the type of defense (for that matter) that Shula ran to confuse Darnold.

Saleh is good but his defenses tend to be more straight-up. I think Darnold and the offense will find plenty of success against them.


As far as #2 goes, THAT is the next step for Darnold to see if he can take his career to a new level.

 

[Biscanebay12]

Ehhh, ok. Nobody is saying he's Patrick Mahomes. He's a really good QB that gives the team a chance to win. Excluding Stafford's career year, that puts him square in the mix in the tier right below him. The Rams have obviously given him trouble, and he led two drives at the end of the game to beat them last night. Yet, in a thread titled "Darnold", you're complaining that the fans are talking about "Darnold" and not the punt return.

No I'm complaining that the Cheerleaders for Darnold are ignoring the fact that the Hawks shouldn't have been down 16 in the first place. If Darnold didn't have the history he does maybe things would be different. But until he proves himself for more than 15 games I have my doubts.

I brought up punt return because without it there wouldn't have been a win and Darnolds efforts would've fell short.

 

[TwistedHusky]

I think he will accomplish #1.

The Panthers are still the Panthers while the Forty-Whiners do not scare me one bit.

They don't have the Defense or the type of defense (for that matter) that Shula ran to confuse Darnold.

Saleh is good but his defenses tend to be more straight-up. I think Darnold and the offense will find plenty of success against them.


As far as #2 goes, THAT is the next step for Darnold to see if he can take his career to a new level.

A Niners win would be great for him. Because:

1 - The Niners strength is that front 7 but their secondary is less intimidating.
2 - Everyone thinks the Niners are one of the top teams in the league.

The person who has to believe here is Darnold, not us, but the media would stop chirping at him if he could deliver in that game.