Could Geno be pulling a Rich Gannon?

[suppaball]

Sucked at first, benched. Then a carrier back up for years, then boom a league MVP?
Looks possible, still early but looks to be very possible.

 

[toffee]

Yes, Geno is having a Gannonish comeback, as to how far can Geno's comeback go, who knows! But we do know this: Geno was ranked #33 or something insulting before the season started. He is currently top 10, moving to top 5 or so after this weekend's games.

 

[FlyingGunHawk]

If I could put it simply: He looks comfortable.

 

[Ruminator]

If our D wasn't so hapless, we'd likely be sporting a 4-0 record thanks to Geno's mostly impressive start to the season so far. He wasn't stellar in the two losses, but D probably would have been able to salvage a win. This guy is going to be fascinating to watch -- hopefully for the entire rest of the season and beyond.

 

[Rat]

But we do know this: Geno was ranked #33 or something insulting before the season started. He is currently top 10, moving to top 5 or so after this weekend's games.

Geno looked fantastic today, but let's not get carried away. I'd be shocked if any reputable analyst would have him anywhere near their top 5 right now.

 

[toffee]

Geno looked fantastic today, but let's not get carried away. I'd be shocked if any reputable analyst would have him anywhere near their top 5 right now.

I was referring to stats from ESPN (RTG, QBR) and PFF, on the other hand, "reputable analysts" ranked Geno #33 in a league with 32 teams.

 

[suppaball]

Hey I hope he has that Gannon comeback, that means we win a lot of games. Geno has surprised me so far, I hope he keeps it up.

 

[DarkVictory23]

It's hard to say. I mean, even going back to last year, Geno's looked fine to good to great across what... 7 games now? It's not exactly a full season but it's getting to the point where you can't just call it a fluke.

I think the thing that impresses the most is that while his execution is fine (even good), it's his command of the offense that stands out. He's commanding the LOS and the game pre-snap better than we've seen here since peak Hasselbeck.

That matters because it means the success isn't about spinning out of tackles and hitting deep balls to great receivers to put up amazing numbers, it's about a guy running the offense the way you expect of a veteran, quality starting QB to do. The source of the success is different.

We've seen stark examples of it across all the games this year.
The touchdown to Dissly in week 1, Geno saw that TD before the ball was even snapped.
This week, Geno pulls Eskridge aside, basically tells him he's going to hit him for a first down strike--the Lions are watching him talk to Eskridge by the way--and then he does.
The presnap call to Metcalf where he basically calls for Metcalf to clear out his first down scramble.

It's very impressive. I'm not ready to say he's the next Rich Gannon but he's on the right path.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Well, some are acting like he's as good as Mahomes. Yes, I KNOW that's a reach, but it's getting to that level.
He's ballin' out, so far so good. Still 13 games to to.

 

[fire_marshall_bill]

It's the Lions. It's just like when Carson piled up yards versus weaker teams. I'll wait until he's played some good teams. But he's doing what he's supposed to, so that's good.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

And there's nothing wrong with being cautiously optimistic until you see it against a very good defense. Before yesterday, against a horrible defense, they had scored a total of 3 points of offense in 3 second half of games. I was happy to see a 4 quarter effort from the team. Was a fun game and a good battle. Detroit never gives up, ever. And if they don't get that onside kick? I highly doubt we see them win that game. Just my opinion.

Side note, and nothing to do with the thread, this defense is hot garbage. Better get that fixed, and soon.

 

[toffee]

That matters because it means the success isn't about spinning out of tackles and hitting deep balls to great receivers to put up amazing numbers, it's about a guy running the offense the way you expect of a veteran, quality starting QB to do. The source of the success is different.

You are lucky that John63 is busy on Broncos' forum, otherwise, slights like this shan't be tolerated.

I think the thing that impresses the most is that while his execution is fine (even good), it's his command of the offense that stands out. He's commanding the LOS and the game pre-snap better than we've seen here since peak Hasselbeck.

We've seen stark examples of it across all the games this year.
The touchdown to Dissly in week 1, Geno saw that TD before the ball was even snapped.
This week, Geno pulls Eskridge aside, basically tells him he's going to hit him for a first down strike--the Lions are watching him talk to Eskridge by the way--and then he does.
The presnap call to Metcalf where he basically calls for Metcalf to clear out his first down scramble.

I think what Geno's doing at the LOS is being appreciated by teammates.

 

[themunn]

You've got to remember that Geno's career until he came here hardly put him in an opportunity to shine.

Drafted by one of the league's worst franchises and started day 1 as a rookie, when it was clear he needed to develop further as a pro.
Starts for 2 years, showing improvement, even if his team got worse.
Has his jaw broken by a teammate and loses his job to Ryan Fitzpatrick, who, in his 11th year as a pro suddenly turned into a quality QB, tossing for 3900 yards and 31 TD passes that year and earning himself another year as a starter.

Then signs for the other basketcase New York team - and gets his only start when team are already 2-9, ending Manning's consecutive start run and done by coach Ben McAdoo, who was fired immediately after said game.
Geno then sits for a year behind Philip Rivers, where he had a grand total of 4 pass attempts across the entire year to show his ability.
He's been with us ever since, and to be honest, anyone who says he has looked like a bad quarterback watching him play for us has been saying so with preconceived notions based on how he played as a Jet, many years earlier.

Statistically, his worst game for us was SF last week, but even then he played better than Wilson did against the same team the week before, and the RB pass/interception robbed him of a chance to maybe make his stats look at least somewhat reasonable. He still completed 80% of his passes! When your worst game still has you completing 80% of your passes, and only one single interception, maybe you aren't that bad after all.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Yep, he is calm and in control. Even Wyman was talking about how he didn't expect this from Geno.

 

[FattyKnuckle]

I was referring to stats from ESPN (RTG, QBR) and PFF, on the other hand, "reputable analysts" ranked Geno #33 in a league with 32 teams.

And pre-season, that was a fair assessment. He wasn't even a lock for the starting position on his own team at the time.

 

[MORGULON]

You've got to remember that Geno's career until he came here hardly put him in an opportunity to shine.

Drafted by one of the league's worst franchises and started day 1 as a rookie, when it was clear he needed to develop further as a pro.
Starts for 2 years, showing improvement, even if his team got worse.
Has his jaw broken by a teammate and loses his job to Ryan Fitzpatrick, who, in his 11th year as a pro suddenly turned into a quality QB, tossing for 3900 yards and 31 TD passes that year and earning himself another year as a starter.

Then signs for the other basketcase New York team - and gets his only start when team are already 2-9, ending Manning's consecutive start run and done by coach Ben McAdoo, who was fired immediately after said game.
Geno then sits for a year behind Philip Rivers, where he had a grand total of 4 pass attempts across the entire year to show his ability.
He's been with us ever since, and to be honest, anyone who says he has looked like a bad quarterback watching him play for us has been saying so with preconceived notions based on how he played as a Jet, many years earlier.

Statistically, his worst game for us was SF last week, but even then he played better than Wilson did against the same team the week before, and the RB pass/interception robbed him of a chance to maybe make his stats look at least somewhat reasonable. He still completed 80% of his passes! When your worst game still has you completing 80% of your passes, and only one single interception, maybe you aren't that bad after all.

This really puts a different perspective on a qb's career path. Especially a high draft pick like Geno.
Any of those top college guys are going to a dumpster fire of a team, theyre set up for a high chance
of failure because of their success. Before now, when has Geno Smith ever had a real chance?

 

[bileever]

You have to admit that Schneider and Carroll made the right decision to pass on the other QBs available before the season began. Geno is much better than Mayfield, Darnold, Trubisky, Mariota and Garoppolo. Thank god we didn't waste money or resources to get one of those QBs.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Mariota just got done beating the Hawks in Seattle. But yes, he's def. better than those guys. So far.

 

[CallMeADawg]

Mariota just got done beating the Hawks in Seattle. But yes, he's def. better than those guys. So far.

Yeah because our defense sucks.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

As does Detroit's