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I'm not going to make excuses for the man, But!,.. He's coming off a bad knee injury, signing with a new team late, trying to still recover from said injury, trying to learn a new offense, trying to learn his new teammates (the guards) which keep changing.. I mean give the guy a bit of a break here he's a quality center and I'm not going to say anything bad about the guy until I see him next year fully healthy and fully in the understanding of this offensive scheme and a full offseason to know his fellow olinemen...
 

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I'm not going to make excuses for the man, But!,.. He's coming off a bad knee injury, signing with a new team late, trying to still recover from said injury, trying to learn a new offense, trying to learn his new teammates (the guards) which keep changing.. I mean give the guy a bit of a break here he's a quality center and I'm not going to say anything bad about the guy until I see him next year fully healthy and fully in the understanding of this offensive scheme and a full offseason to know his fellow olinemen...

I'd like to see more of him before making a final opinion myself. He was a top 5 interior guy last season, he's still just 27 and like you say, coming off the injury.
 

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This would seem to suggest otherwise:

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Season isn't over, but so far he's looked like he's taken a step back.
Need to factor in alot while making this statement, 1. Coming off an acl injury, which not many player can recover from in just one offseason 2. Signing with a team late and not getting those preseason snaps 3. Learning a new offensive scheme 4. Trying to play with the two garbage guards beside him... (I watched the Allday podcast with Lofa and he brought up a good point, he said the knee is probably still bothering him because most guys with try to over compensate for the weak appendage do to injury and that might be why he's having issues with the shotgun snaps)...
 

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Is it me or have we focused so much on issues at guard and RT that somehow Connor Williams has slipped under the radar. He’s been shockingly worse than I thought he’d be. If he’s not snapping it like he’s coked up having a seizure he’s getting steamrolled. Is it just me? I thought center would be a strength after his signing. Man it’s seemed bad but not discussed as much as RT and RG.
For all the whining from my draft day "screwed the pooch" thread that got me band from posting. 4th rd pick #119 (the next pick after #118 Tyrice Knight) Mason McCormick RG is a rotating starter for Pittsburg. Getting equal snaps as their starters since game #3. I often think how happy their GM must have been knowing that was a need for us. 5th rd. Bills pick (after TE Barner & CB Pritchett) Sedrick Van Pran-Granger C is proven to be a quality backup at center that they think (halfway through his rookie season) is their future starter. We choose to go with 32 yr old Laken Thomlinson and high snapping, foot tripping Connor Williams. Scouting is everything in this league. And as far as O-lineman go we suck. Abe Lucus, 19 games since he's played and we drafted him knowing he had knee issues. Same with Fant, didn't finish last season with knee issues. Haynes can't beat out Thomlinson, we'll take the high snaps over Oluwatimi. Anthony Bradford!! I'm so done with this GM.
 

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Williams could not move any DT in the league right now. This line couldn’t get an inch if they needed to in the run game. Even if you added all the lineman on the field. Most LB’ers could push our guys into the backfield.
 

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For all the whining from my draft day "screwed the pooch" thread that got me band from posting. 4th rd pick #119 (the next pick after #118 Tyrice Knight) Mason McCormick RG is a rotating starter for Pittsburg. Getting equal snaps as their starters since game #3. I often think how happy their GM must have been knowing that was a need for us. 5th rd. Bills pick (after TE Barner & CB Pritchett) Sedrick Van Pran-Granger C is proven to be a quality backup at center that they think (halfway through his rookie season) is their future starter. We choose to go with 32 yr old Laken Thomlinson and high snapping, foot tripping Connor Williams. Scouting is everything in this league. And as far as O-lineman go we suck. Abe Lucus, 19 games since he's played and we drafted him knowing he had knee issues. Same with Fant, didn't finish last season with knee issues. Haynes can't beat out Thomlinson, we'll take the high snaps over Oluwatimi. Anthony Bradford!! I'm so done with this GM.
I agree with most of this, but do have a couple of points:

-Haynes was a consensus higher rated prospect than McCormick at guard, despite Mason being a favorite of mine due to his agility
-We actually probably didn't know about Abe's knee, he had a pretty spotless bill of health coming into the NFL
-Tomlinson has actually been okay recently by all accounts, the clear #2 best on our line behind Cross. It's C/RG/RT that's really boning us, combined with a complete lack of timing and chemistry on the ground.
 

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The Steelers went out and spent a 1st in 2023 and 3 of their top 4 draft picks in 2024 on oline. That's how you fix the problem. JS should have signed Tomlinson as a insurance backup, not as the starter. How many immediate oline starters do we need for next year?
 

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I don’t know why you guys are surprised.

I said it in the beginning of the year, Connor Williams, is not a good player.

If he was, he wouldn’t have found his way to Seattle.

No competent team is willingly giving up a good/great Center (either trade or release, unless he hit the open market being a UFA) for team like Seattle to benefit from.

That’s just not going to happen.

Connor, is nothing more than a John Schneider plug and play offensive lineman castoff standard. Period.
 

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Connor Williams is indicative of the kind of signings that Seattle is infamous for.

A formerly productive or pro bowl level player that has either lost a step due to age, injury, or has been unproductive in a few seasons and the "hope" that they rekindle their prior form. Most of the time this doesn't work out for the team.

I am tired of rentals, reclamation projects, or the team digging through the dumpster in attempt to find arguably the most important position on the entire offense.
 
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The snap was on the money, Geno just let it slip through his hands. Also bogus holding call on long ball down the middle to JSN
Dude, there were several snaps on Sunday that I saw Geno had to move his hands at least a foot to corral besides the ones that got away. I'm not saying Geno is blameless, but it takes 2 to tango, and Williams DOES NOT impress me.
 

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Ignoring his blocking for a second, there is no injury or new team excuse for consistently botching the snap. If you let injury/ new team get to your head enough to screw up the most basic part of your job, you have no business in the NFL.

It is reasonable for these things to explain problems in the rest of his game.
 

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