Comparing Bevell Week One with Bevell Week 2

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I'm sure I'm not the only one to notice the diffence, I mean Week One Bevell was like Felix the Cat and his bag of tricks and Week Two was a Deja Vu, or even worse.

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt (his history of ultra-conservative-pretictable game calling not withstanding) that the heat had something to do do with decisions?

Albeit our offense did OKAY, but needed to be much, much more effective given teh circumstances.



This all makes me wonder what we will see this Sunday.
 

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Just stop. There's 11 people on the field that need to execute and 11 more who have an equal chance at stopping them. Compound that with limited snaps and playing from behind and you no longer can use the original gameplan.

This constant blame Bevell for everything shtick is getting tiresome and lazy.
 

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tom sawyer":37izpnf4 said:
I'm sure I'm not the only one to notice the diffence, I mean Week One Bevell was like Felix the Cat and his bag of tricks and Week Two was a Deja Vu, or even worse.

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt (his history of ultra-conservative-pretictable game calling not withstanding) that the heat had something to do do with decisions?

Albeit our offense did OKAY, but needed to be much, much more effective given teh circumstances.



This all makes me wonder what we will see this Sunday.
He is Jekyll and Hyde of OC's. He can have brilliant games like NO on Monday night last year, XLVIII, and GB this year, or he can have games where he craps the bed (too numerous to list).
 
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Cartire":xf0heu48 said:
Just stop. There's 11 people on the field that need to execute and 11 more who have an equal chance at stopping them. Compound that with limited snaps and playing from behind and you no longer can use the original gameplan.

This constant blame Bevell for everything shtick is getting tiresome and lazy.

Who's BLAMING him? I simply saw a "difference" a "distinct" difference in the play calling.

That's ALL!!
 

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He should have done a better job of controlling the clock in that heat by giving the ball to Lynch more.
 

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hawknation2014":34i6uar7 said:
He should have done a better job of controlling the clock in that heat by giving the ball to Lynch more.

I think that the rotation between Lynch and Turbin would have worked. But a lot more of it. I know them guys would be gassed after the first quarter if you only use one of them. Just my uneducated opinion.
 

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tom sawyer":12aoyumy said:
Cartire":12aoyumy said:
Just stop. There's 11 people on the field that need to execute and 11 more who have an equal chance at stopping them. Compound that with limited snaps and playing from behind and you no longer can use the original gameplan.

This constant blame Bevell for everything shtick is getting tiresome and lazy.

Who's BLAMING him? I simply saw a "difference" a "distinct" difference in the play calling.

That's ALL!!

How much of that is down and distance related? Field position? Reality is that inopportune penalties, negative plays and turnovers played a huge role in play options.
 

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They lost for the 4th time in 21 games (including playoffs). San Diego played an incredible game. Give them credit, and move on. :roll:
 

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McGruff":3jwjlh5e said:
tom sawyer":3jwjlh5e said:
Cartire":3jwjlh5e said:
Just stop. There's 11 people on the field that need to execute and 11 more who have an equal chance at stopping them. Compound that with limited snaps and playing from behind and you no longer can use the original gameplan.

This constant blame Bevell for everything shtick is getting tiresome and lazy.

Who's BLAMING him? I simply saw a "difference" a "distinct" difference in the play calling.

That's ALL!!

How much of that is down and distance related? Field position? Reality is that inopportune penalties, negative plays and turnovers played a huge role in play options.

This.

Each drive that ended with a punt had either a sack or a penalty against the Seahawks. I wasn't happy with all of Bevell's decisions, but those things don't help an offensive coordinator call plays. Execution matters.

FWIW, each drive that ended with a score? No sacks. No penalties.
 

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I'm not a historic fan of D.B. I feel that he called a decent offensive game with the exception of a few calls. To me this game had way more to do with the lackluster play of the LB crew...it was very bad for anyone who knows the LB position. They were out of position and trailing on nearly every play (not just one of them) all of them looked very bad. I don't care how much time they missed in the off season...this is the regular season and it counts so if they're not ready then run with the backups for heaven's sake.

So my issue with the San Diego game has way more to do with the defense than the offense. The defensive coaching was terrible and the linebacker play was terrible. Extremely basic stunts as the heart of their blitz packages; nothing too exotic there. The chargers line had no problem with the hawks blitzes. When we didn't blitz we didn't have pressure. Blitzes dialed up at the most unusual times (very cautious approach).
 

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No O.C. in the league has a dynamite game plan every week. Something goes wrong, someone goes down, defenses respond differently than anticipated. Given how little we had the ball, the results were....well, see for yourself below.

Week 1 Week 2
Total Plays: 66 40
Yards Per Play: 6.0 7.8
Runs: 37 13
Passes: 28 25
Time of poss: 33:20 17:45
Points: 36 21
Drives: 10 10

Like some of the previous posters, my problem is not with our offensive game plan. Rather, it has to do with the defense's execution as a unit and the 2 penalties that resulted in 1st downs for S.D.: Smith's defensive holding on 3rd down that nullified a sack, which cost us decent field position following what would have been a punt AND Irvin's personal foul on 3rd down when Rivers ran for a gain of 1. Surely S.D. would have gotten a FG out of the possession, but then ended up scoring a TD instead.

We had some offensive miscues that weren't related to play calling as well (Wilson getting sacked on 3rd and 8 from the SD 33 - punt vs. FG attempt; Harvin's fumble- resulted in a TD; Miller's 3 penalties, Sweezy's false start on 3rd and 10 in the 4th quarter- the following play Wilson scrambles for 13).

We didn't execute the plays that were called well enough to win. The calls themselves didn't cost us the game, IMO.
 

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hangumhi":ygo2izrh said:
I'm not a historic fan of D.B. I feel that he called a decent offensive game with the exception of a few calls. To me this game had way more to do with the lackluster play of the LB crew...it was very bad for anyone who knows the LB position. They were out of position and trailing on nearly every play (not just one of them) all of them looked very bad. I don't care how much time they missed in the off season...this is the regular season and it counts so if they're not ready then run with the backups for heaven's sake.

So my issue with the San Diego game has way more to do with the defense than the offense. The defensive coaching was terrible and the linebacker play was terrible. Extremely basic stunts as the heart of their blitz packages; nothing too exotic there. The chargers line had no problem with the hawks blitzes. When we didn't blitz we didn't have pressure. Blitzes dialed up at the most unusual times (very cautious approach).

Ditto^
 

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Bevell is the Dave Krieg of OCs. When he's on he's lights out. When he's off, he's terrible.

Nothing has changed my opinion of Bevell to this day.
 

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hawknation2014":3qo9n10u said:
He should have done a better job of controlling the clock in that heat by giving the ball to Lynch more.
Agreed! Harvin even tried to help Bevell by intentionally stepping out of bounds so we could control the clock more but the ref missed it and awarded us a stupid TD!! Damn you Bevell!
 

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hawknation2014":1nliy7mm said:
He should have done a better job of controlling the clock in that heat by giving the ball to Lynch more.
I really think his back was more of an issue then they were letting on. Regardless it really didn't come down to the offense it was on the defense being unable to get of the field allowing San Diego to be on the field 12 minutes at a time is a recipe for disaster no matter how you slice it.
 

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FargoHawk":yr5gfc05 said:
hawknation2014":yr5gfc05 said:
He should have done a better job of controlling the clock in that heat by giving the ball to Lynch more.
Agreed! Harvin even tried to help Bevell by intentionally stepping out of bounds so we could control the clock more but the ref missed it and awarded us a stupid TD!! Damn you Bevell!

I was thinking more about these drives:

Drive One
Lynch receives only one carry . . . five pass calls and Turbin gets a carry for -3 yards on 2nd and 5.

Drive Three
Bevell elects to throw the ball on first and second down.

Drive Four
An end around by Lockette and two pass plays results in a third and out.

Drive Six
After a first down by Lynch, Bevell calls three straight pass plays leading to another punt.

Drive Seven
Harvin end around and two pass plays results in a 4th and 11. See Drive Four.

I can't find any fault in drives two and five, but there were definitely opportunities to get Lynch the ball more in these other drives. Knowing how hot it was, that should have been part of the game plan to control the clock.
 
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