Carroll said "doubting fans need to “do their homework”

[Cartire]

Again, how thick can you be? He had a 177 yard 2 INT day with a miserable 46.8 rating.

If you don't want what we're capable of, (look at Arizona @ Seattle last year) that's fine. I'd like to see us play more towards what we're capable of, though. I'm not disappointed in our team or any crap like that, so don't take it to extremes, but we can definitely be doing more, and we have proven it. Just not in 2013, yet.

And finally, here it is. I knew it would come back. Because we beat a distraught AZ team (with insane turnovers) we now are never reaching our potential.

You might as well give up on the season now Roland, because 58-0 is a wildly unlikely occurrence.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Again, how thick can you be? He had a 177 yard 2 INT day with a miserable 46.8 rating.

If you don't want what we're capable of, (look at Arizona @ Seattle last year) that's fine. I'd like to see us play more towards what we're capable of, though. I'm not disappointed in our team or any crap like that, so don't take it to extremes, but we can definitely be doing more, and we have proven it. Just not in 2013, yet.

FFS it's Week 7. :lol:

I'd rather not peak in October - that's just me though.

 

[Sarlacc83]

15th in RZ TDs
28th in 3rd-down pct.
29th in total passing yards
18th in total rushing yards

So, I did my homework. Again, why shouldn't I be a bit concerned?

You need to do better homework.

Seattle is #2 in overall rushing and #24 in overall passing. Where did you get your numbers? #8 in PPG and #10 in YPG.

ESPN. Unless you want to dispute the yardage totals listed there?

From ESPN:

Seattle = #2 rushing offense
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing

Seattle = #22 passing offense
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/passing

Also, 8th in scoring.

 

[Smelly McUgly]

Citing the AZ game alone, or even the three game AZ-BUF-SF stretch last year, is probably not good for an argument because it allows people to call you out for expecting 40+ a game. But I do think that an offense that is more consistent like the one over the back half of last year is not something to be too expectant of.

I still think most of our problems on offense will go away once Harvin can play and if Carroll and Bevell use him right (get him the ball in space not too far from the LOS, let him make people miss).

I also don't get Bevell's apparent obsession with five-wide sets on third-and-short. We can run for two or three there, dammit!

 

[RolandDeschain]

And finally, here it is. I knew it would come back. Because we beat a distraught AZ team (with insane turnovers) we now are never reaching our potential.

You might as well give up on the season now Roland, because 58-0 is a wildly unlikely occurrence.

You'd have a point if we didn't also look great and beat the crap out of two other teams, one of which played in the Super Bowl, the two weeks following that one as well. We had a 3-game stretch that hasn't been seen in the last 50 years of football. Yeah, we also had some luck and some major mistakes in the AZ game, but regardless of that, we were flat-out dominant in every phase of the game for 3 straight games.

However, no, you don't have your point after all.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Citing the AZ game alone, or even the three game AZ-BUF-SF stretch last year, is probably not good for an argument because it allows people to call you out for expecting 40+ a game. But I do think that an offense that is more consistent like the one over the back half of last year is not something to be too expectant of.

I still think most of our problems on offense will go away once Harvin can play and if Carroll and Bevell use him right (get him the ball in space not too far from the LOS, let him make people miss).

I also don't get Bevell's apparent obsession with five-wide sets on third-and-short. We can run for two or three there, dammit!

I think the patchwork offensive line is affecting things a lot more.

Harvin will add more playmaking ability to the line-up, but this offense wont start turning it up until Okung and Breno are back at tackle and McQ is back at guard ahead of Carpenter.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Holy crap, we didn't "almost lose" to Fitzpatrick. Put down the pipe.

 

[volsunghawk]

I also don't get Bevell's apparent obsession with five-wide sets on third-and-short. We can run for two or three there, dammit!

Now this is the kind of discussion point I think is a valid point of concern. It's identifying a particular formation we seem to use regularly, but without much success, and questioning why we don't go to our strength in that scenario. And it does it without suggesting that going five-wide is the reason we'll never win a Super Bowl or something silly like that.

 

[Smelly McUgly]

Citing the AZ game alone, or even the three game AZ-BUF-SF stretch last year, is probably not good for an argument because it allows people to call you out for expecting 40+ a game. But I do think that an offense that is more consistent like the one over the back half of last year is not something to be too expectant of.

I still think most of our problems on offense will go away once Harvin can play and if Carroll and Bevell use him right (get him the ball in space not too far from the LOS, let him make people miss).

I also don't get Bevell's apparent obsession with five-wide sets on third-and-short. We can run for two or three there, dammit!

I think the patchwork offensive line is affecting things a lot more.

Harvin will add more playmaking ability to the line-up, but this offense wont start turning it up until Okung and Breno are back at tackle and McQ is back at guard ahead of Carpenter.

My reasoning is that I think Harvin will actually do a great deal help mask OL issues, and also that I think McQ has been playing better - and so has Carp, to some degree. Bailey has also been improving.

Not to say that Okung won't immediately make two positions better (LT and LG) when he comes back, but the threat of Harvin in the flat will slow the pass rush and force LBs and even DEs to stay at home more often. Alone, I think he can really do a lot to open up the offense even before Okung is back.

 

[DavidSeven]

Again, how thick can you be? He had a 177 yard 2 INT day with a miserable 46.8 rating.

If you don't want what we're capable of, (look at Arizona @ Seattle last year) that's fine. I'd like to see us play more towards what we're capable of, though. I'm not disappointed in our team or any crap like that, so don't take it to extremes, but we can definitely be doing more, and we have proven it. Just not in 2013, yet.

If you are going to continue to chase the dragon of that Arizona game, then you are never going to be satisfied with how this season goes. That is unrealistic for a number of reasons.

 

[RolandDeschain]

DavidSeven, read my last reply. I'm talking about a flat-out dominant performance in all three phases of the game, regardless of the score. We did that against Bufflo and San Francisco in the same few-week stretch, too.

 

[Cartire]

Again, how thick can you be? He had a 177 yard 2 INT day with a miserable 46.8 rating.

If you don't want what we're capable of, (look at Arizona @ Seattle last year) that's fine. I'd like to see us play more towards what we're capable of, though. I'm not disappointed in our team or any crap like that, so don't take it to extremes, but we can definitely be doing more, and we have proven it. Just not in 2013, yet.

If you are going to continue to chase the dragon of that Arizona game, then you are never going to be satisfied with how this season goes. That is unrealistic for a number of reasons.

Don't waste your time. I brought it up, he thinks I have no point because we also did good against buffalo and sf in a three game stretch. Therefor anything less now is Seattle underachieving. I'm starting to think Roland would be happier as a Denver fan. Until the playoffs come around of course.

 

[brimsalabim]

How many times have we moved into the redzone this season only to get a stupid penalty taking us "off schedule" ? How many times have we had to go 20 yards to get a first down? Penalties more than anything are limiting our production and they can largely be attributed to the injuries on the offensive line and Miller. I think we have had games where our most experienced OL on the field was a DE two years ago.

 

[Cartire]

DavidSeven, read my last reply. I'm talking about a flat-out dominant performance in all three phases of the game, regardless of the score. We did that against Bufflo and San Francisco in the same few-week stretch, too.

Weren't really dominate in the passing game against AZ. Wilson only threw one TD and had a pretty average passer rating.

But that was last year, NOSTALGIA GOGGLES AHOY.

 

[Seaswab]

Our last home game of the season last year our offense wasn't necessarily "sharp" against the Rams. It happens. Expecting 50 points a game is unrealistic. Be happy we are winning and can get better.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Wilson also only played HALF A GAME against Arizona in our house last year.

 

[Smelly McUgly]

DavidSeven, read my last reply. I'm talking about a flat-out dominant performance in all three phases of the game, regardless of the score. We did that against Bufflo and San Francisco in the same few-week stretch, too.

Weren't really dominate in the passing game against AZ. Wilson only threw one TD and had a pretty average passer rating.

But that was last year, NOSTALGIA GOGGLES AHOY.

The "three phases of the game" are offense, defense, and special teams.

So, are you saying that we weren't dominant on offense against AZ in that second game last year?

 

[volsunghawk]

DavidSeven, read my last reply. I'm talking about a flat-out dominant performance in all three phases of the game, regardless of the score. We did that against Bufflo and San Francisco in the same few-week stretch, too.

But do you remember how people were talking about how unprecedented that stretch was? Teams don't dominate opponents over a stretch like that on a regular basis. It's catching lightning in a bottle to do that, and to expect that we'll see that kind of thing again is unrealistic. To do it 3 times over the course of a season is a pretty impressive accomplishment. To do it 3 times in a row is incredibly improbable.

 

[themunn]

My homework says we almost lost at home to Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Really? Because my homework says that the most we were behind at any point was 3 points, and overcame that and put 13 points on the board while holding the Titans to 29 yards of total offense in the second half before finally succumbing to a 14 play, 6 minute, 69 yard drive that resulted in us giving up a field goal to cut that lead to 7 points and give us the ball back with 2 minutes left.

At which point did we almost lose?

 

[Dtowers]

My homework says we almost lost at home to Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Really? Because my homework says that the most we were behind at any point was 3 points, and overcame that and put 13 points on the board while holding the Titans to 29 yards of total offense in the second half before finally succumbing to a 14 play, 6 minute, 69 yard drive that resulted in us giving up a field goal to cut that lead to 7 points and give us the ball back with 2 minutes left.

At which point did we almost lose?

Thank you. Post like the one for MontanaHawk05 really irk me because it doesn't look at the big picture. There was no way Fitzpatrick was beating us.