hawk45":3qzqx4jv said:
Nutrient timing can't violate the laws of conservation of energy. Strength coaches aren't scientists. They're adept at developing dietary and physical regimens to skew the proportion of mass gain or loss, but you can't do both at once. Again, any sort of mass is a result of stored energy. Explain how you can loss one type of mass ( requiring a caloric deficit), while gaining a different type of mass (requiring a caloric excess). Cannot be done, nutrient timing doesn't supercede the physical facts.
If your body expends 2000 calories to build muscle on top of it's 3000 require for daily lifestyle (since these guys are a lot bigger than the average male), through some clever maniupulation you can gain 4000 of those calories from food and 1000 from fat.
Fat loss doesn't require a calorie deficit, your body will naturally burn fat as a source of fuel when working at an aerobic level, even though there may be a chocolate pudding in your stomach at the same time full of potential energy. Where the problem comes in for
normal people losing fat is that after that exercise, the body will then convert that chocolate pudding into fat, so although you've lost some fat, you've put it back on again and the net loss is 0. When you are building muscle at the same time, instead that chocolate pudding (or more likely in this situation, chicken breast and protein shake) will be used to build muscle by your body and the fat you burned off as a source of fuel will stay gone.
It's not like your body burns all the food in your stomach then goes "right, that's done, get me some fat to use"