Browns complaining about Referees

[onepicknick1]

Come On there were more than one or two I just watched the game again there were two on one drive if that were to happen to us how would you feel? I almost thought we had the replacement Refs in again.
Was it a game changer IDK how could even decide that unless it was the last few play's of the game. I for one would say that is the worst officiating game I saw this year and the Browns took the worst of it.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

The officiating was crap on both sides of the ball, cry me a river. They didn't lose because of the refs. Now the Lions last night, THEY were flat out jobbed and the entire world knows it.
The officiating is getting out of hand and is ruining a great sport.

 

[HawkStrong]

Come On there were more than one or two I just watched the game again there were two on one drive if that were to happen to us how would you feel? I almost thought we had the replacement Refs in again.
Was it a game changer IDK how could even decide that unless it was the last few play's of the game. I for one would say that is the worst officiating game I saw this year and the Browns took the worst of it.

Which ones, please list them.

 

[bmorepunk]

Even if the calls in question didn't exist, the Browns are still being the Browns. Go up by multiple scores really quick, then spend the rest of the game doing dumb stuff pissing it away. Their play in the second half was pretty much "we're just going to lose", and a lot of that came from the QB position.

The players, coaches, GMs, and owners change, but this team is the same every year. They've had two winning seasons in two decades. Two. And that got them in the playoffs once, and of course they lost. This city hasn't seen an NFL playoff win in 25 years.

I feel bad for this fan base, they just have the one of the worst strings of competence and bad luck anywhere.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Yet again, the Hawks win a close game and it's because of the Refs :roll:

 

[TwistedHusky]

With 3 min to go in that game, it was something like 25-28.

To be honest, if the game had ended then...I would have had no idea who won.

Because the calls were so bad on both sides.

To pretend it was not horrible officiating is ridiculous. It was terrible.



It isn't to say we could not win that on our own, but we never got the chance because the referees were so abysmal.

That penalty on Landry was pivotal but then again that throw to ODB never should have been complete.

Honestly, it was bad. So many bad calls that altered drives. Continuing some. Ending others. We have no idea how the game would have went.

 

[sprhawk73]

It is hard to comprehend some of those phantom calls. And after experiencing SB XL it isn't logical to rule out refs fixing games. I think it is ridiculous that bad calls can alter the outcome of games and as fans we want our teams to win knowing it was a fair game.

OF course it was way too obvious in 2005 because there wasn't any doubt that the Seahawks were the better team. Other than the score they won statistically in every category, and to make it even worse the penalties stand out because they were the least penalized team that year.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

And that's the key, it was horrific on BOTH sides. Most teams in the league seems to be getting shafted in these games on a consistent basis. Well, maybe not GB or NE.

 

[sprhawk73]

And that's the key, it was horrific on BOTH sides. Most teams in the league seems to be getting shafted in these games on a consistent basis. Well, maybe not GB or NE.

Good point, NE has proven that there are fans, coaches and players that don't care how they win.

 

[TwistedHusky]

I think they are clearly missing calls on purpose.

That way, when you make an intentionally bad call to steer an outcome, it isn't noticed or people do not care as much because they are jaded.

The NFL is making a big push to participate in all this money made by gambling. This looks more like someone playing the long game to be able to make money on the outcomes.

NFL referees look worse than the replacements did. They certainly are much worse than they were a few years ago.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Football could be enjoyable again if they just let em play.

 

[Mizak]

And that's the key, it was horrific on BOTH sides. Most teams in the league seems to be getting shafted in these games on a consistent basis. Well, maybe not GB or NE.

You didn’t watch the Cowgirls vs Packers game last week did you? I almost felt sorry for the Packs.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

It helps and impacts just about every team. The refs should not be a part of the outcome of a game, period. Just ask the Saints.

 

[ivotuk]

Piss poor refereeing all around. And as someone pointed out, every fan in the NFL will complain about the referees when there's a bad call. Some will complain when they lose, whether or not the call(s) effected the outcome of the game.

There's only one thing that effected the eventual outcome of this game, turnovers, 3 Interceptions, and a Blocked Punt.

Without those, Cleveland wins. But you can't expect a team named after an overweight, old man do to very well anyway.

 

[ivotuk]

Come On there were more than one or two I just watched the game again there were two on one drive if that were to happen to us how would you feel? I almost thought we had the replacement Refs in again.
Was it a game changer IDK how could even decide that unless it was the last few play's of the game. I for one would say that is the worst officiating game I saw this year and the Browns took the worst of it.

Tom Wassel? Is that you?

Yesterday on 710 Wassell said "The Browns were clearly getting screwed all game long!" LOL! Not sure why he continues with these comments, maybe it's his frustrations over his Giants constantly screwing the pooch.

 

[renofox]

PIVOTAL penalties?

ROUGHING:
2nd & 22 at SEA 13
(13:28 - 2nd) (Shotgun) R.Wilson pass deep left to T.Lockett ran ob at SEA 33 for 20 yards [L.Ogunjobi]. PENALTY on CLV-L.Ogunjobi, Roughing the Passer, 15 yards, enforced at SEA 33.

Would have been 3rd and 2 w/o penalty. A 3rd down penalty which allows a team to keep the ball instead of punt (see: GB v DET) is pivotal. This is not.


ILLEGAL BLOCK:
2nd & 13 at CLE 22
(4:54 - 3rd) (Shotgun) B.Mayfield pass short left to N.Chubb to CLV 26 for 4 yards (Sq.Griffin). PENALTY on CLV-J.Landry, Illegal Blindside Block, 13 yards, enforced at CLV 26.

2nd&13 @ CLE22
vs
2nd&22 @ CLE13

Yes, it was a crappy call. Browns still had 2 chances to make plays afterwards.


Some other questionable calls:

4th & 7 at SEA 38
(6:04 - 1st) (No Huddle, Shotgun) B.Mayfield pass deep right to J.Landry to SEA 11 for 27 yards (T.Thompson).

Was that really a catch? If ruled the other way, Seahawks ball. Result of drive: TD Browns.


4th & 3 at SEA 23
(14:24 - 4th) (Shotgun) B.Mayfield pass short left to D.Hilliard to SEA 20 for 3 yards (K.Wright). Official Measurement on Play

Nice spot. If ruled short, Seattle ball. Result of drive. Advanced to 1 yard line, followed by short field for TD.

Browns did not lose due to pivotal calls - they lost due to self-inflicted mistakes. PIVOTAL calls went in the Browns favor.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Yeah, he looked short on that 4th down. Nobody even mentioned it on the broadcast. :roll:
It's ok, Hawks keep winning, people keep making excuses for WHY they win. It has always been that way, and likely will never change. Good, I LOVE how many people dislike the Hawks.

 

[onepicknick1]

Come On there were more than one or two I just watched the game again there were two on one drive if that were to happen to us how would you feel? I almost thought we had the replacement Refs in again.
Was it a game changer IDK how could even decide that unless it was the last few play's of the game. I for one would say that is the worst officiating game I saw this year and the Browns took the worst of it.

Tom Wassel? Is that you?

Yesterday on 710 Wassell said "The Browns were clearly getting screwed all game long!" LOL! Not sure why he continues with these comments, maybe it's his frustrations over his Giants constantly screwing the pooch.

No but I stand to be corrected it was 6:46 PI endzone then the Browns had the Ball 4:44 they got called for PF blind side like I said was it a game changer IDK IMO no. I feel like Russ would of pulled it out no matter what and there were missed calls that could of went our way and didn't. I just hate games called poorly it kinda ruins it for me, just for the reason of just what you elaborated on "Wassell said "The Browns were clearly getting screwed all game long!"

Wilson would of pulled it off in fact we didn't score on the very last drive and we could of.

 

[BigMeach]

Is this the OBJ catch where he rolled over the defender and didn't actually get two feet (or a knee) in bounds? That was crazy. Not sure how that didn't get overturned on review.

I think it was Hilliard, and he was taken down by KJ on the near sideline. He stretched out, but his knee was down well before that. I was screaming at Pete to throw the red flag.

Me too man, me too... I wanted that challenged the second I saw the ref walking out on the new ball spot he was "assigning".

 

[WestcoastSteve]

Should put to rest the conspiracy theory that the NFL and Refs are out to get Seattle. As fans we would be off the hook if we had those calls made against us. The defensive holding call in the end zone was a phantom hold as well.

The Browns fans were fine, our fans bitch about the refs all the time to. Go to a gameday thread on here.

But there were also bad calls on both sides. The last time the refs won us a game was when they didn't call that batted ball by KJ in 2015 against the Lions