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They banned me while I was sleeping.chris98251":19vv4xtf said:
BRADY/PATS PUNISHMENT OVER TURNED BY JUDGE. (Updated 9/3/15)
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chris98251
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Guess it's for the best, posting that would have made it a slam dunk anyway based on what I read.
I really hope we get back to the Dance and they are the opposition and we're healthy, the trash talk will be glorious!
I really hope we get back to the Dance and they are the opposition and we're healthy, the trash talk will be glorious!
Sports Hernia
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Seattle might make it back, but they won't. 8)chris98251":2vf2z0f2 said:
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kidhawk":1vf6s9jh said:
Is that the one where he says he's "faced a lot of adversity in life"? I'm curious to know what that adversity was, exactly.
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SnoCoHawk":1u9ob2ok said:
Not being Drafted in the 1st round, it was traumatizing.
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At one point some of his teammates accused him of not being "white enough." Tom had to overcome that, even working on it while on vacation:SnoCoHawk":310q1ou5 said:
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SnoCoHawk":7y376stw said:
Giselle snores.
You can tell Brady's been lying his ass off by the way he's responded to the report so far. If he were truly innocent he'd be shouting that into every microphone he could find. Instead he's been letting his dad and his agent attack the report while making mealy-mouthed excuses about not having had time to "absorb" the report when asked about it directly although he'd had 30 hours to do so. He's probably worried that one or both of the equipment schlubs will make a beeline to the first ESPN reporter they can find and roll on him if they are thrown under the bus and fired.
joeseahawks":1rochnjt said:
Sorry to hear you are feeling the pain of the SB loss. Just remember at least you can cheer for Goodell and team NFL as they try to frame the greatest QB that has ever lived. Tom is gonna rip them a new one when the suspension/fine is handed out. This report is full of so many holes it is laughable.
Also, it is a disgrace to see folks believe these reports that the league pays for, especially after the lies that they expected us to swallow in the Ray Rice case. Come on, set aside your hate for a second and see the flimsiness of this report. I get it, the Patriots took away your dreams on a last second history making interception, I would hate them too if I were you guys. But this report is garbage. The evidence they put out there for weather deflating balls during the game is within the range one would expect on the day in question. I don't even see what the problem is that people see. Just read the report. The texts are not even that bad in context when you look at the dates of them.
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NWPatsFan":qdlqms28 said:
You need to take off your Patriot covered glasses.
The texts are about as damning as evidence gets. This is not a frame job, this is Brady telling his ballboys to deflate footballs so they're easier to grip, throw and catch........... and then getting caught in a lie. Simple.
Is it a big deal? The ball deflating isn't, but the Patriots continued disregard for crossing the line between "sportsmanship" and flat out rule breaking is. All Brady had to say is "yeah I did ask them to deflate balls, everyone does it, I didn't think it was big deal, I'm sorry and will accept any punishment the league deems fit."
At least telling the truth lets him keep his integrity, now he's just another phony..........which as Richard Sherman said last year, all the players already knew anyway. Ahh Shucks Tom Terrific is just a character he plays in the media, he's really a whiny spoiled brat.
NWPatsFan":19sckyrq said:
Can we give all Pats fans signed up for this forum the custom title of "Delusional"?
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NWPatsFan":2j0deyxx said:
Your arrogance is typical and speaks for all Pats fans. Its why New England is one of the most hated and least respected teams. Tom Brady is as smug as they come and will deserve whatever multi-game suspension is handed out. I think most NFL fans will take great joy in seeing the Pats 2016 season go up in flames with Tom Shady sitting out.
Face it the Pats win dirty and that will be the final legacy of your so-called "dynasty"
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12thbrah":w8g8efgo said:
This is what happens when you go 100 years without a title, you don't know how to handle success.
It's like the little runty smart ass kid in the neighborhood that everyone hates who strikes out every time you play sandlot baseball.........and then when he finally connects on a pitch and hits a home run, he taunts everyone and talks shit running around the bases.
That's Boston fan. Now that they've won a couple titles, they have no idea how to handle success gracefully or with dignity.
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You are delusional. The weather wasn't cold enough to drop the pressure that much. Having your equipment guy have the nickname "the deflator" at the beginning of the year implies it's been going on long before then. The fumble stats since 2007 certainly makes it appear that they have been doing it since the rule change your cheater lobbied for 7 years ago. BJGE and Amendola had zero fumbles in their time with the Cheatriots, but somehow seem to cough the ball up in Cincy and St. Louis (even with the indoor stadium). To say that the Pats did even better against the Colts in the second half of the AFCCG is irrelevant. It wasn't cold and snowy. That's when the real advantage you gained with deflated balls comes into play. Go back to your board where everyone thinks Brady did nothing wrong.
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31 other teams look at the Pats and snicker, finally those cheating bastards are busted, rest of the USA looks at Patriots and think now we know why they were good so many years, circumvention of the rules.
Goodell looks at Patriots and thinks how can I do a wrist slap and not have the other 31 owners vote to fire me.
Belicheck, we need to hire poorer equipment guys that can't afford phones and have their tongues cut out.
Goodell looks at Patriots and thinks how can I do a wrist slap and not have the other 31 owners vote to fire me.
Belicheck, we need to hire poorer equipment guys that can't afford phones and have their tongues cut out.
Pats fan.... You call this a frame job?
In the report they said no matter how many times they tried to recreate the pressure drop in the footballs they were unable to do so.... There was no natural cause scenario where the PSI dropped that much. The report said it would seem a human had to have done it....
The text messages are pretty significant. The fact that he calls himself the deflator is a pretty big deal, even more so since it was so much earlier in the year... There are a significant amount of text referring to deflation.
The fact that their had been earlier complaints in the season.... Then again before this game and it just so happens to be the case when the balls are inspected....
The fact that the assistant took the balls without permission and lied about using the bathroom... Then when busted about his lie changed his story to using the urinal, and setting the balls to the left of the urinal. (There is no urinal in that bathroom)
The fact that Brady denied ever knowing, or recognizing him. When in fact there are photos with him, an autographed ball. As well as phone calls 6 months prior to deflate gate starting....
The fact that his attorney was more upset that the NFL did a so called sting operation instead of notifying them they would be checking the balls before hand so they new not to tamper. Thats the equivalent of setting up a drug deal with an undercover agent, and expecting the agent to call you before hand and say he's a cop and will be looking into the drug deal thats about to go down...
The fact Tom was not cooperative, would not turn over anything pertaining to the case......
I understand you look up to Tom, but Tom is a human, and humans are pretty selfish in general. We are disgusting. Tom is no different. Tom cheated, and most likely has been doing so for years. But I wont go there. Even though there is a lot of "Circumstantial Evidence" much like Aaron Hernandez case was "Circumstanial" its pretty clear that the facts point to guilt in both cases. I see Patriots fans are having a field day because the choice of words were more probable than not but those words are used in the 51/49 ratio in deterring guilt. When you look at the report its pretty clear that in all likely hood it is more probable than not the Brady is guilty. The science proved it. The texts prove it... Past complaints prove it. Im not sure what else they would need but the facts are there... Keep turning a blind eye though
In the report they said no matter how many times they tried to recreate the pressure drop in the footballs they were unable to do so.... There was no natural cause scenario where the PSI dropped that much. The report said it would seem a human had to have done it....
The text messages are pretty significant. The fact that he calls himself the deflator is a pretty big deal, even more so since it was so much earlier in the year... There are a significant amount of text referring to deflation.
The fact that their had been earlier complaints in the season.... Then again before this game and it just so happens to be the case when the balls are inspected....
The fact that the assistant took the balls without permission and lied about using the bathroom... Then when busted about his lie changed his story to using the urinal, and setting the balls to the left of the urinal. (There is no urinal in that bathroom)
The fact that Brady denied ever knowing, or recognizing him. When in fact there are photos with him, an autographed ball. As well as phone calls 6 months prior to deflate gate starting....
The fact that his attorney was more upset that the NFL did a so called sting operation instead of notifying them they would be checking the balls before hand so they new not to tamper. Thats the equivalent of setting up a drug deal with an undercover agent, and expecting the agent to call you before hand and say he's a cop and will be looking into the drug deal thats about to go down...
The fact Tom was not cooperative, would not turn over anything pertaining to the case......
I understand you look up to Tom, but Tom is a human, and humans are pretty selfish in general. We are disgusting. Tom is no different. Tom cheated, and most likely has been doing so for years. But I wont go there. Even though there is a lot of "Circumstantial Evidence" much like Aaron Hernandez case was "Circumstanial" its pretty clear that the facts point to guilt in both cases. I see Patriots fans are having a field day because the choice of words were more probable than not but those words are used in the 51/49 ratio in deterring guilt. When you look at the report its pretty clear that in all likely hood it is more probable than not the Brady is guilty. The science proved it. The texts prove it... Past complaints prove it. Im not sure what else they would need but the facts are there... Keep turning a blind eye though
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Why would the league deliberately pay to have a report falsely defame one of its most popular players and the team that just won its championship? This "frame up" argument that Brady's agent and NE fans are relying doesn't make any sense. The league is only damaged by these findings. The NFL has no incentive whatsoever to make Brady or the Patriots look bad on purpose.
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DavidSeven":321pegqz said:
I'd like to see a Pats fan answer that. The NFL definitely is not enjoying this scandal on any level. It makes the entire league look bad and no matter what the punishment that's handed out, some will scream that it's not enough and others will scream that it's too much. Sporting organizations don't seek out cheating scandals, ever. It taints their sport. I'm sure Roger and the gang would have liked nothing better than for this report to come back exonerating everyone.
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You nailed it! :th2thumbs:DavidSeven":2phov9ug said:
If anything the league would go out "out of their way" to protect a "legacy franchise" but there was too much smoke this time.
I hope the league has the "man marbles" to hammer Tawwwmy!
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Your that sentence is spot on. If Rog could sweep this under the rug he would, but it's too big now for that IMHO.SnoCoHawk":3v0z37aj said:
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