Barnwell at ESPN predicts we take a step back

[SoulfishHawk]

Or maybe the refs call the obvious PI in the end zone and the Hawks win the division.
Or maybe KJ doesn't drop an easy game ending pick in that same game where the Niners somehow only lost because of a missed FG.
But hey, eventually idiots like this will be "right" if they keep predicting doom and gloom every year.

This isn't the BCS, you either win or you don't. This team gets it done, dwelling on how it looks doesn't and/or saying they barely won etc. doesn't change it.

 

[AubHawk71]

There's the old saying that bad sex is better than no sex, and that's how it has felt the last few years watching the Seahawks play. Sure, you get there eventually, but did anyone enjoy themselves on the way?

I would also posit that when you have been coaching since WWII, like Pete, that you start to get hung up on inventing new ways to keep yourself interested. Thus, never drafting high ranking players, finding ways to dig a hole to get yourself out of (Think of yourself/teenager shooting hoops, then deciding that only shots banked off the garage roof count).

As has been said a trilliion times before, Pete has this luxury because of the Ol Russ Magic. I don't expect any change from a coach who is pushing 70. You do have to wait a while for the Cialis to kick in, I guess. Consult your doctor for games lasting more than 4 hours...

 

[SoulfishHawk]

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[AubHawk71]

:2thumbs: :2thumbs:

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[John63]

Or maybe the refs call the obvious PI in the end zone and the Hawks win the division.
Or maybe KJ doesn't drop an easy game ending pick in that same game where the Niners somehow only lost because of a missed FG.
But hey, eventually idiots like this will be "right" if they keep predicting doom and gloom every year.

This isn't the BCS, you either win or you don't. This team gets it done, dwelling on how it looks doesn't and/or saying they barely won etc. doesn't change it.

But in there lies the problem, if you played more aggressive like its the 4th qtr all game you would not loose or win on 1 play so much. FYI the goal is the SB we have not gotten it done since 2014, we have not even gotten to the Conference champs since 2014. So sorry what we are doing is treading water good enough to get in but not good enough to get it done.

 

[rjdriver]

Or maybe the refs call the obvious PI in the end zone and the Hawks win the division.
Or maybe KJ doesn't drop an easy game ending pick in that same game where the Niners somehow only lost because of a missed FG.
But hey, eventually idiots like this will be "right" if they keep predicting doom and gloom every year.

This isn't the BCS, you either win or you don't. This team gets it done, dwelling on how it looks doesn't and/or saying they barely won etc. doesn't change it.

Seriously?
"Idiots like this"?
"Doom and gloom"?

Lets look at the actual headline of the article...
"Why the Packers, Seahawks, Saints COULD lose more games.."

Then he states later ...

" The goal isn't to put anyone down or ruin anybody's excitement over the season but rather to try to see whether there are reliable indicators of future success or failure."

Such doom and gloom!

He simply states that according to a formula based on math Seattle is a LIKELY candidate to win ONE less game than last year. Has this "hack" had any success in the past using this formula called the Pythagorean expectation? From the article...
"Over the past three years, I've identified 16 teams who I expected to decline in their upcoming campaign.
Fourteen of those 16 teams did decline, while two maintained their prior record. Not a single one improved."

That's a statistically sound assumption. Now, I love your optimism and I share it. As a matter of fact, I think Seattle will win more games than last year because I think they have made substantial personnel upgrades. But to call Barnwell a "Anti Seahawk Hack" or a "doom and gloomer" is preposterous and intellectually dishonest.

 

[JayhawkMike]

The hidden costs of playing not to lose until the fourth quarter is that:
1. You need to keep your starters in the whole game leading to them being more worn out later in the year and more susceptible to injury.
2. You don’t get a chance to play your backups as much giving them much needed reps.

 

[John63]

The hidden costs of playing not to lose until the fourth quarter is that:
1. You need to keep your starters in the whole game leading to them being more worn out later in the year and more susceptible to injury.
2. You don’t get a chance to play your backups as much giving them much needed reps.

And you margin for error is smaller

 

[Fade]

Barnwell isn't necessarily wrong. He is a numbers guy, and Seattle's point diff indicates they will take a step back based on mathematical history.

I like some of the moves that have been made, but if they don't go more uptempo on offense and start taking it to teams, early and often, than yes they will lose more games upcoming. Just gotta hope Pete has seen the light. Wilson has commented on it as well during the offseason so there is a chance, maybe.

It's pretty interesting, though that any analyst who studies the Seahawks comes away baffled. Reluctantly let their HoF QB takeover the game. Until that gets fixed Seattle isn't doing anything significant in this league again.

 

[TwistedHusky]

Exactly.

Wilson has even been recently quoted that he would really like to play every quarter like the 4th.

If that is not a passive aggressive shot across Carroll's bow, not sure what is. But until Carroll gives up this insane strategy that hamstrings us in every non-wildcard playoff game - there is no reason to expect much from this team.

It still is amazing to watch in the regular season though. The nice thing about a crappy defense is that at least we start scoring sooner. My fear is that with a better defense we will go back to running the clock down in the 1st, and that boring goddawful type of 'football' we were subjected to a few years ago. At least last year the games were exciting.

Playing the way we did last year, will get us a worse record. And because Carroll likes to keep games close, having a better defense won't change that. It just means we won't start our own scoring until later in the game because we won't be giving up scores and so won't prioritize it.