Are we Champions ?

[MORGULON]

Stranger things have happened and we have a better shot than some teams that's for sure. It would have to be one of those immaculate dream seasons where literally the ball bounces our way, no real injuries, the team perfectly coalesces to the coaching and new schemes, no playing down to inferior opponents, ball to the wall mentality from start to finish, etc, etc, etc.

What's most likely is there will be growing pains, injuries, set backs as that tends to be the norm for most teams. However, if the team maximizes their talent/depth, with a year of growth under Mike, I don't see any reason at all why we can't be considered true contenders as soon as next year.

At this point in the season I say ... Why not ?

I agree there will be growing pains and wailing and gnashing of teeth . MM must be fired posts but the offense was already decent . Add a violent ,fast and young defense and we could go far .

Injuries are the key.

 

[ZagHawk]

Is this team capable of winning a championship this year ? Why not, first year coaach ? Unthinkable. With a top 10 defense this team can go a long way.

So, lets hear your reason why we can't.

Cheers

1) It is illogical to believe a team with a first year HC will win the superbowl.

 

[chris98251]

We have been Champions for a long time, this franchise carries itself like one since we had one stolen, We have the formula, luck, injuries, and chemistry all affect how far you go, it's a special thing, seen it with the Sonics in their run, and here with both Holmgren and Pete with their runs. Champions is a mentality, it's a standard you live buy once you get there. We are still operating with those beliefs and standards. The Hardware will come when all the things listed align.

 

[SNDavidson]

If we stay healthy in key spots it's a strong yes, that's how the NFL works, windows open and shut in the blink of an eye

 

[Spin Doctor]

Geno 2024 is better than Trent Dilfer 2000 who won a Super Bowl with the Ravens. Place that $1000 bet on the Hawks now...

"In (Dilfer) going 11-1 as the starting quarterback -- including 11 straight wins -- he was considered the perfect complement to Baltimore's historic defense by producing few turnovers and timely big plays, which included a 38-yard touchdown pass to Brandon Stokley in the Super Bowl.

But Dilfer completed only 47.9% of his passes in the postseason and heard the criticism that he was the worst quarterback to play in a Super Bowl. He estimated that he played at 65% to 70% because he was coming off a shoulder injury from the previous season and was dealing with osteitis pubis, an inflammation around the pubic bone and hip flexor muscle."
Source: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...split-baltimore-ravens-winning-super-bowl-xxv

The 2000s was a very different league. It was rare to see a 4000 yard passer. The running game was also a larger part of offenses.

Rule changes came and neutered defenses, even since 2014, more recent rule changes that were directly aimed at the LOBs dominance.

I suspect we’re going to be good, but I don’t think we have the horses to make a run yet.

All I want is us to punch the rams and niners in the mouth. If we can do that, we’re already in a good space, given how inept we’ve been against them in recent past.

 

[94Smith]

It's certainly possible. We've seen a lot of rookie head coaches come in and win right away. Kevin O'Connell with the Vikings went 13-4 in his first year (the team was 8-9 the year before), Matt LaFleur wen 13-3 with the Packers his first year (6-9-1 the previous year), Sean McVay went 11-5 with the Rams (4-12 the year before) and DeMeco Ryans went 10-7 in his first year with the Texans (3-13-1 the previous year). Not to mention Mike McDaniel with the Dolphins.

None of them won a Super Bowl though. That’s a different beast. No doubt a great season is possible, but has a first year coach ever won it ? Usually takes a few years of building

 

[94Smith]

Have a feeling it will be similar but with us having a great dline

The Seahawks have great d line ? Maybe a average /good line , but great?

 

[Maelstrom787]

The Seahawks have great d line ? Maybe a average /good line , but great?

Depends on what people consider the DL to be. With the edge rushers becoming increasingly classified as linebackers, the DL may just be the DT/NT/"RUSH" end as classified on the Seahawks depth chart and that unit is great.

 

[SeaWolv]

Not that I wouldn't love to see it and anything is possible but I don't think this is probably the year for Seattle. I think we're at least a another season or two away from glory. I think we're still missing a piece or two on the O and a couple of pieces on the D. But they'll make some noise this year.

 

[Wheetie]

I think it's pretty imperative to remind those of us who forget:

It's not just about being a good team. Things have to go right for a team about 30-40% of the time (give or take) all the way to the actual end of the Superbowl to be crowned champions. Yeah, it helps having a stacked roster and great coaching, good discipline, etc...But at the end of the day, if the whole team isn't clicking and lady luck isn't on your side, chances are you won't be champions.

I'll also add having calls go your way at crucial moments, which often times happens to only certain teams.

 

[SeaWolv]

The OL and DL are not good enough to win it. Both lines are getting better but aren't there yet. Geno is also a gap filler until the new coach can fix the issues. We aren't winning a SB with Geno.

For me I'm just going to hate of SF for this year and see where we are at this time next year.

The Hawks probably need at least another G on the Oline (assuming the other 4 live up to their potential) and probably another DI, DE and LB before they're really ready to compete for a SB.

I agree Geno isn't the long term answer at QB. Mostly due to his age. Howell may be the long term answer but I haven't seen him put together a great season yet. Geno could get Seattle to a SB. Hell, Brock Purdy almost won it earlier this year and Goff led the Rams to a SB as well. So you can get to a SB with a 10-15 ranked QB, provided you surround him with talent, but you probably aren't going to win it.

 

[chrispy]

In my opinion,

Geno's plenty good enough to win a Superbowl. Perhaps not with a mediocre WR group and/or Run game, but Seahawks are not there.

To me, the reason the Seahawks will come up short is that there will be close games. There will be situations where a little luck is needed. There will be games decided by less than 3 points. ...and Jason Myers won't be the guy that comes through every time in a pinch. K is a position that SB winning teams can take for granted and the Seahawks can't take extra points for granted. There might be other reasons, but this one, to me, is the most obvious situation that puts the team a year or two out.

 

[Maelstrom787]

The Hawks probably need at least another G and on the Oline (assuming the other 4 live up to their potential) and probably another DI, DE and LB before they're really ready to compete for a SB.

I agree Geno isn't the long term answer at QB. Mostly due to his age. Howell may be the long term answer but I haven't seen him but together a great season yet. Geno could get Seattle to a SB. Hell, Brock Purdy almost won it earlier this year and Goff led the Rams to a SB as well. So you can get to a SB with a 10-15 ranked QB, provided you surround him with talent, but you probably aren't going to win it.

This is it right here.

In a league where Brock Purdy, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Jared Goff have made Super Bowls, Nick Foles has WON one, and where Case Keenum and Blake Bortles have made conference championship games?

Yeah, Geno could make one. Geno is not a disqualifier. He isn't going to get you there alone, but no one is outside of MAYBE Mahomes.

Geno is aging and might have a short extension in him if Howell doesn't make significant strides to supplant him, but currently I don't see any reason he'd be the limiting factor when we've seen so many other QBs who are frankly not as good as him get there with good teams.

 

[CostaRicaHawk]

None of them won a Super Bowl though. That’s a different beast. No doubt a great season is possible, but has a first year coach ever won it ? Usually takes a few years of building

Somebody will be the first to do it. Why not US, why not NOW. Not predicting it to happen, but yes we could win it all. That is why they play the game, if we win the West we are champions, if we win the NFC we are champions. Then there is the ultimate opportunity. All is possible as long as you play the game!!!!

 

[SNDavidson]

None of them won a Super Bowl though. That’s a different beast. No doubt a great season is possible, but has a first year coach ever won it ? Usually takes a few years of building

Well, a different beast for shanny, that's for sure...

 

[Cyrus12]

The Hawks probably need at least another G and on the Oline (assuming the other 4 live up to their potential) and probably another DI, DE and LB before they're really ready to compete for a SB.

I agree Geno isn't the long term answer at QB. Mostly due to his age. Howell may be the long term answer but I haven't seen him but together a great season yet. Geno could get Seattle to a SB. Hell, Brock Purdy almost won it earlier this year and Goff led the Rams to a SB as well. So you can get to a SB with a 10-15 ranked QB, provided you surround him with talent, but you probably aren't going to win it.

We did it twice with Russ....Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson also did the same.

 

[94Smith]

if we win the West we are champions, if we win the NFC we are champions.

Hah! I doubt there are many sea hawks fans who consider the 49ers two time defending champions

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

The Seahawks have great d line ? Maybe a average /good line , but great?

Just a gut feeling they'll be good this year. I think some players underperformed last year

 

[Chrome_Seahawk]

Just a gut feeling they'll be good this year. I think some players underperformed last year

I don't think that Uchenna Nwosu's injury and absence last year can be underestimated - so I think that his return as well as new additions and the development of Derek Hall will lead to a much improved defense.

 

[CostaRicaHawk]

Hah! I doubt there are many sea hawks fans who consider the 49ers two time defending champions

Yet they still are. Facts are not based on feelings. That is my goal for this year, take down the current NFC west champions and then go for the NFC itself. That I do believe will happen this year. Not a fact but a belief.

The rest is possible but of course harder to do. Just because something has not been done does not mean it cannot be done.

GO HAWKS Future Super Bowl Champions