Anyone watching MNF?

[Maelstrom787]

He is much better than Geno.

They're entirely different quarterbacks. Russell is good at what he's good at and pretty dogshit otherwise.

Geno would look a hell of a lot better in Pittsburgh than he does on this floundering unit, though. That much I am sure of.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Oh here we go..we shoulda kept Russ posts...unreal...hes played 2 garbage teams and now he's the savior of 2013 again....

They whipped their meat out QUICK lmao

 

[Cyrus12]

In any event, he is much better than Geno.

After two games? So i guess based on that Jameis Winston is better too...he did just beat Baltimore...

 

[Shanegotyou11]

Jets are 6th best for Total Yards allowed and 2nd best at Pass D.
Jets are Ranked 4th best defending passing TDs.

Giants are 12th best overall for total yards and 6th best vs the pass. They are 11th best defending passing tds.

Russ did it vs 2 good defensive teams.
Combine them and they are 5th best vs pass and 7th/8th at not allowing passing tds.

Again, its early and could come crashing down or he may be great. The 1st 2 games he looked good.

 

[Shanegotyou11]

After two games? So i guess based on that Jameis Winston is better too...he did just beat Baltimore...

Balty kinda sucks on defense tho. Dead last passing yard defense and bottom tier at stopping passing tds.

 

[Shanegotyou11]

They whipped their meat out QUICK lmao

I mean he has played well. It doesnt mean he may suck next game or have a bad season. I know you dont care for Russ and thats fine but he has played well so far. It may all crash and burn.

 

[Ozzy]

They whipped their meat out QUICK lmao

I thought you were a fan of Russ? Rooting for him to suck still?

 

[Maelstrom787]

I thought you were a fan of Russ? Rooting for him to suck still?

My posts are more in response to the "Better than Geno" spam that it feels people have had in the chamber for a couple of years, but I digress.

Russ succeeding in Pittsburgh works in favor of my narrative. He's in a ball control offense. The type his team smeared Carroll's name for years over. The type I said he needed to quit his bitching over because he couldn't hack it as the Midget Manning he fancied himself.

I'm not sure why you guys need to jump to rephrase what I'm saying in your own terms. Didn't root for him to suck in this thread.

 

[Maelstrom787]

In any event, he is much better than Geno.

You know what? The hell with it. Let's expand on this.

Russ went 20/28 with 278 yards and a touchdown pass. This isn't an uncommon type of game for Geno, but anyway, let's continue.

I want to point something out that I think should be clear in terms of the difference between their situations.

Pittsburgh pounded the goddamn rock to success! Najee put up 114 on 19 rushes, Warren added 46 more on 9.

Seattle can't run its way out of a wet paper bag.

It is IMMENSELY more difficult to be an efficient quarterback when your team has no realistic method to move the ball on the ground. Insanely so.

Give Geno a rushing attack that moves the ball downfield like that and I guaran-goddamn-tee you we're singing a happier tune about him.

 

[Ozzy]

You know what? The hell with it. Let's expand on this.

Russ went 20/28 with 278 yards and a touchdown pass. This isn't an uncommon type of game for Geno, but anyway, let's continue.

I want to point something out that I think should be clear in terms of the difference between their situations.

Pittsburgh pounded the goddamn rock to success! Najee put up 114 on 19 rushes, Warren added 46 more on 9.

Seattle can't run its way out of a wet paper bag.

It is IMMENSELY more difficult to be an efficient quarterback when your team has no realistic method to move the ball on the ground. Insanely so.

Give Geno a rushing attack that moves the ball downfield like that and I guaran-goddamn-tee you we're singing a happier tune about him.

You didn’t watch the game and just looked at stats which you are critical of when people do it to Geno. He also had two touchdowns called back.

Russ looked really good last night. He was hitting the quick game, he extended plays, threw a couple of his best in nfl history deep balls and won the game. They don’t win that game either Fields.

This post feels like you didn’t watch it and you’re trying to fit it into your narrative if I’m being honest. You can think Geno is great and also give credit to Russ when he deserves it and the reverse is true. We should be ale to say we think Russ is still really good and acknowledge when Geno plays well. Unfortunately this stuff seems to become like the forbidden topic the way people argue it.

 

[Ozzy]

Russ who everyone says sucks and is one dimensional also had a very efficient couple of years with terrible run games. It’s really hard but we should also give Russ some credit for doing it under those exact circumstances.

I do agree though that if we get the running game going Geno looks more like last year than this year

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Hey, look. The dickhead looks like himself again when he does the stuff Pete made him famous with.

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You mean win? Yeah, because that's what he did, again. The fact that it STILL bothers you, 2 plus years later makes it pretty damn cool that he won again.

Who's the dickhead here? hmmmm
Might be time to get over it at some point, geezus. You sound like a whining 5-year-old. He had a good game, they won, he's 2-0. He hasn't been here for OVER 2 YEARS. My god. Still going on about this sh**?
You clearly didn't watch the game. He went 20-28, 278 yards, and he had TWO touchdowns called back. Honest question, why do you care what a FORMER Seahawk is doing? You blast anyone who dare downplay Geno. Yet here you are doing the exact same thing.
He's past his prime, sure. But he has played pretty damn well since coming off injury. Sorry that hurts your feels.
Guess you're the one whipping out the meat to run in here to downplay a good game. The SAME exact thing you get bent out of shape over when someone talks about Geno. Totally different players, totally different teams.
Then to double down, you CLAIM that you're not rooting for him to fail. Flat out lie. The SAME THING you accuse me and others of doing, often.

Just take the damn L for once. Or just own up to it. But you won't, because you're the smartest one in the room at all times.
Congrats.

 

[Cyrus12]

Russ did a lot of great but also did a lot of damage to this franchise. He was coddled for years and in the end was more detrimental to the team than what he was worth with his demands and putting himself first over the team. Not all but a big factor of why this team didn't enjoy KC like success. That might be just the reason why the hate for him is still there and it's justified!!

I watched most of the game and Russ had some great moments. The 50 50 ball was still there but the defenders didn't turn around in time to possibly make a play or even better an int. A costly fumble may have cost the win for them but Daniel Jones was the qb on the other side of the field. Regardless of stats the NY teams are garbage at this point of the season. This the time of year where teams like that and even the seahawks show their tru colors. The pass to Pickens was as good a throw as you will ever see. Russ had tons of time in the pocket and Pittsburgh had a great 1 2 running attack...kind of like the old days for Russ. Seriously though...ask yourself if Russ were on the seahawks right now how would he look? I'm meh on Geno as he is a bridge to something down the road but serious, would Russ do any better???

I knew this place would get on the Russ bandwagon after a couple wins as there are the long-time Russ fanboys just waiting for the i told you so moment and maybe thats justified as Russ has been little more than a joke since leaving here..and the he's better than Geno posts were inevitable..or we shoulda kept him blah blah..but I think you've forgotten the last few years here with new oc's every other year...the drama of demanding the owner fire the coach and gm..locker room issues.. and the affect it had on the team. Carroll is also responsible and imo coul have been fired a year or two after 49. I will say there was some vintage RW ball last night and if he plays like this all year he will deserve some props..but way too early imo. Andy Dalton looked good...Jameis Winston too...let's see if it lasts before you crown him...

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Not at all. I'm glad they moved on from him. Hope he plays well out there. Wanted him to lose every game when it helped the Hawks get better draft picks. There's zero I told you so. I just am saying he's looked pretty good so far. Nothing else. Should have kept him? Hell no.
Not even close to crowning him. Just laughing at people still butt hurt at any success he has. It's entertaining, to ME. Just like the Geno apologists come out of the woodwork, often. That, TO ME, is funny.
He's not our problem anymore and hasn't been for a couple years.

 

[Maelstrom787]

You didn’t watch the game and just looked at stats which you are critical of when people do it to Geno. He also had two touchdowns called back.

Russ looked really good last night. He was hitting the quick game, he extended plays, threw a couple of his best in nfl history deep balls and won the game. They don’t win that game either Fields.

This post feels like you didn’t watch it and you’re trying to fit it into your narrative if I’m being honest. You can think Geno is great and also give credit to Russ when he deserves it and the reverse is true. We should be ale to say we think Russ is still really good and acknowledge when Geno plays well. Unfortunately this stuff seems to become like the forbidden topic the way people argue it.

So now we're just throwing out unconfirmed accusations for fun? Pretty disrespectful.

I watched a bit in real time. Not a lot, but I did go through the Russ plays I could find on Twitter afterward to fill in some gaps.

Let me clarify before you misrepresent what I'm saying:

I'M NOT SAYING THAT RUSSELL PLAYED BADLY.

I'M NOT SAYING THEY WIN WITH FIELDS.

I'M NOT SAYING HE THREW ONLY DEEP BALLS.

I'M NOT SAYING HE DIDN'T THROW ANY QUICK PASSES.

What I AM SAYING is that Russell Wilson is successful when he plays within the confines of a ball control offense. One that maintains balance and doesn't put pressure on him to create just to move the chains.

When Russ accepts that role, he looks like the Russ that won a hell of a lot of games.

The problem is, at some point, he stopped accepting that role and created a narrative that putting him in that role held him back.

It looks like he's back. I have always said that Russell Wilson runs one type of offense well, and this is that type of offense.

I shouldn't even have to compare him to Geno but, of course, you've got people spamming in this thread about "better than Geno better than Geno better than Geno" so the conversation shifts to that. I certainly am not the one who brought him up.

 

[Maelstrom787]

You mean win? Yeah, because that's what he did, again. The fact that it STILL bothers you, 2 plus years later makes it pretty damn cool that he won again.

Who's the dickhead here? hmmmm
Might be time to get over it at some point, geezus. You sound like a whining 5-year-old. He had a good game, they won, he's 2-0. He hasn't been here for OVER 2 YEARS. My god. Still going on about this sh**?
You clearly didn't watch the game. He went 20-28, 278 yards, and he had TWO touchdowns called back. Honest question, why do you care what a FORMER Seahawk is doing? You blast anyone who dare downplay Geno. Yet here you are doing the exact same thing.
He's past his prime, sure. But he has played pretty damn well since coming off injury. Sorry that hurts your feels.
Guess you're the one whipping out the meat to run in here to downplay a good game. The SAME exact thing you get bent out of shape over when someone talks about Geno. Totally different players, totally different teams.
Then to double down, you CLAIM that you're not rooting for him to fail. Flat out lie. The SAME THING you accuse me and others of doing, often.

Just take the damn L for once. Or just own up to it. But you won't, because you're the smartest one in the room at all times.
Congrats.

Buddy, hop off my nuts. You play the victim everywhere else and then you'll write me letters like this with tears in your eyes.

The guy forced himself out because he didn't want to run an offense like the one he ran here to great effect for a decade, and now is resurgent when put back into that type of offense.

I didn't downplay his game at all. You're bullshitting, yet again. I said he looked like his old self when running this type of offense.

I'm not invested in his success, but I didn't say SHIT indicating that he wasn't successful tonight and didn't look like vintage Russ. I said exactly the goddamn opposite.

If you want to reply to me, how about you read what I said before doing so.

 

[Ozzy]

I disagree with a lot of this but I can also see why some people don't like the guy. I think a lot of the anti Russ stuff is massively overstated. We just saw Lynch hanging out with Russ pregame and having a blast. I hate to be the "I know a guy" but I do and I'll just say a lot of the Wilson narrative and it being all his fault is just not true but I'm not going to convince you guys so it's not worth getting into a pissing match over it.

People are free to hate Russ and free to love Russ. To say he's a joke while also claiming Geno is an MVP candidate to me is wild especially when you look at their numbers but again, you're free to hate Russ and I'm free to root for the guy.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Agree to disagree, Mael. I'm good with that. And probably for the best. You blast him every chance you get, all while bending over for your precious Geno Smith. Period. You literally called the dude a dickhead. Let me guess, you didn't say that either. You get your panties in bunch EVERY time someone doesn't join your Geno worship. Period. Or, you make excuses every time they lose and/or he has a bad game. Somehow, it's never his fault. Period.
I find it hilarious and entertaining that you're still up on Russ' junk. "He played well, but....." It so damn funny.
Don't like it, I don't give two sh****
You in a nutshell: call people dick riders, pulling out their meat, call players dickheads, talk down to anyone who doesn't worship Geno or.....who has ANYTHING good to say about Russ. Then.......you whine that someone calls you something. And you claim that I'M PLAYING THE VICTIM. Hypocrite much? So, it's OK FOR YOU, but not for anyone else. At some point, it seems like you could look in the mirror. You're doing the EXACT SAME THING that you're accusing people of. Not sort of, EXACTLY THE SAME.

I hope he plays well; you hate the dude with a passion. Cool.

 

[Ozzy]

So now we're just throwing out unconfirmed accusations for fun? Pretty disrespectful.

I watched a bit in real time. Not a lot, but I did go through the Russ plays I could find on Twitter afterward to fill in some gaps.

Let me clarify before you misrepresent what I'm saying:

I'M NOT SAYING THAT RUSSELL PLAYED BADLY.

I'M NOT SAYING THEY WIN WITH FIELDS.

I'M NOT SAYING HE THREW ONLY DEEP BALLS.

I'M NOT SAYING HE DIDN'T THROW ANY QUICK PASSES.

What I AM SAYING is that Russell Wilson is successful when he plays within the confines of a ball control offense. One that maintains balance and doesn't put pressure on him to create just to move the chains.

When Russ accepts that role, he looks like the Russ that won a hell of a lot of games.

The problem is, at some point, he stopped accepting that role and created a narrative that putting him in that role held him back.

It looks like he's back. I have always said that Russell Wilson runs one type of offense well, and this is that type of offense.

I shouldn't even have to compare him to Geno but, of course, you've got people spamming in this thread about "better than Geno better than Geno better than Geno" so the conversation shifts to that. I certainly am not the one who brought him up.

Jesus dude all I said was it doesn't seem like you watched the game because you literally said he had 1 touchdown and 270 yards. If you watched the game that comment didn't make a ton of sense to me. I didn't call you a name or anything. I hate debating this topic because everyone takes this stuff way to personal.

You did say stuff like dickriders, pull their meat out etc when talking about people praising Russ though did you not? You can't disparage people and then when someone says it doesn't seem like you watched the game and then say they're being super disrespectul. I don't think that's fair. Regardless the tone of what I said wasn't meant to be rude and I thought that was obvious but apparently not so apologies.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

Omg. I'm hungry. I feel like a Dangerwich! Yummy!

I'm not sure what's weirder. Everyone obsessing about the douche years after he engineered his exit, or the fact that on the back door level people there's actually a percentage of our fanbase that could actually root for the ******* stealers?!

Bizzarro universe or what?

Here's a Dangerwich for ya:



And here's a Russ Carlton for ya:



Now stop watching the Stealers and stop caring WTF Russ does!