Am I giving the Texans too much credit?

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I have a sinking feeling we're gonna lose this game cause on paper the team looks so good
Schaub, Foster, Johnson, Hopkins, Daniels.
And on defense it all looks so good on paper.
But something about this team sorta stinks. I was watching a video where Prisco pointed out their pass rush has been really suspect, are they really worth all the cred I'm giving them. They are 2-1 but could easily be 0-3. Are they much better on paper than they really are? I would like to get a Texans fan perspective on this
 

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If we lose this game, I think it'll be because of having only two completely healthy
O-linemen, and they're guards, at that; along with uninspired play calling.
 

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They looked pretty awful at everything against the ravens last weekend.
 

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AJ looks to be a GTD too so that might be good. That offense becomes much easier to defend if he is out. Their D is good but Hawks are balanced and can win either throw the air or on the ground. I think Hawks have a real good chance if they can start quick.
 

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RolandDeschain":1kpa5rww said:
If we lose this game, I think it'll be because of having only two completely healthy
O-linemen, and they're guards, at that; along with uninspired play calling.


Translation: The plays that work: INSPIRED. The plays that don't work: UNINSPIRED.
 

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I don't think Schaub can beat our defense.
Seriously, not even worried.

Houston looks a lot like us but with a statue QB.
It's gonna take a bad game and bad bounces to bring this team down.

It will happen but I doubt it will be this week.
 

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bestfightstory":8pz4hn58 said:
RolandDeschain":8pz4hn58 said:
If we lose this game, I think it'll be because of having only two completely healthy
O-linemen, and they're guards, at that; along with uninspired play calling.


Translation: The plays that work: INSPIRED. The plays that don't work: UNINSPIRED.

To paraphrase Bill Belichick tell me which plays will work and those are the ones I will call. None of the coaches are prescient you know. I get you are being sarcastic just saying.
 

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Dtowers":3itnlziw said:
bestfightstory":3itnlziw said:
RolandDeschain":3itnlziw said:
If we lose this game, I think it'll be because of having only two completely healthy
O-linemen, and they're guards, at that; along with uninspired play calling.


Translation: The plays that work: INSPIRED. The plays that don't work: UNINSPIRED.

To paraphrase Bill Belichick tell me which plays will work and those are the ones I will call. None of the coaches are prescient you know. I get you are being sarcastic just saying.


We are in agreement here... You, I, and Belichek. I just smh at the clowns who have the audacity to imagine they could call an NFL game. And, in this case, they can pin a loss that hasn't happened on play calling that hasn't happened.
 

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bestfightstory":jk7v4n48 said:
Translation: The plays that work: INSPIRED. The plays that don't work: UNINSPIRED.

No. I'm talking about just more creative and aggressive plays. Look at what we started off with last Sunday. Run through an A gap, run through an A gap, pass, punt.

Also, we need to go deep more often, in my opinion. We're good at it, and since our guys don't tend to get separation, there's usually a DB right on them with a high probability of getting PI called on them.
 

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davidonmi":3kmgaeon said:
I have a sinking feeling we're gonna lose this game cause on paper the team looks so good
Schaub, Foster, Johnson, Hopkins, Daniels.
And on defense it all looks so good on paper.
But something about this team sorta stinks. I was watching a video where Prisco pointed out their pass rush has been really suspect, are they really worth all the cred I'm giving them. They are 2-1 but could easily be 0-3. Are they much better on paper than they really are? I would like to get a Texans fan perspective on this

Tell ya what. Softy did a great interview with Earl Thomas. Why don't we let him answer this. The whole interview is awesome, but you can FF to 2:05 to hear his answer.

http://www.sportsradiokjr.com/media...hler-ondemand-softy/earl-thomas-925-23759873/
 

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davidonmi":1slv7fhx said:
I have a sinking feeling we're gonna lose this game cause on paper the team looks so good
Schaub, Foster, Johnson, Hopkins, Daniels.
And on defense it all looks so good on paper.
But something about this team sorta stinks. I was watching a video where Prisco pointed out their pass rush has been really suspect, are they really worth all the cred I'm giving them. They are 2-1 but could easily be 0-3. Are they much better on paper than they really are? I would like to get a Texans fan perspective on this

Tell ya what. Softy did a great interview with Earl Thomas. Why don't we let him answer this. The whole interview is awesome, but you can FF to 2:05 to hear his answer.

http://www.sportsradiokjr.com/media...hler-ondemand-softy/earl-thomas-925-23759873/
 

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RolandDeschain":206fdqhc said:
bestfightstory":206fdqhc said:
Translation: The plays that work: INSPIRED. The plays that don't work: UNINSPIRED.

No. I'm talking about just more creative and aggressive plays. Look at what we started off with last Sunday. Run through an A gap, run through an A gap, pass, punt.

Also, we need to go deep more often, in my opinion. We're good at it, and since our guys don't tend to get separation, there's usually a DB right on them with a high probability of getting PI called on them.


We are 3-0.


Maybe we are calling the right plays?

Also, I recall Wilson's early passes vs Carolina and San Fran... Not so impressive.

Second guessing OC calls is all too easy.
 

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bestfightstory":83ozi7mh said:
Dtowers":83ozi7mh said:
bestfightstory":83ozi7mh said:
RolandDeschain":83ozi7mh said:
If we lose this game, I think it'll be because of having only two completely healthy
O-linemen, and they're guards, at that; along with uninspired play calling.


Translation: The plays that work: INSPIRED. The plays that don't work: UNINSPIRED.

To paraphrase Bill Belichick tell me which plays will work and those are the ones I will call. None of the coaches are prescient you know. I get you are being sarcastic just saying.


We are in agreement here... You, I, and Belichek. I just smh at the clowns who have the audacity to imagine they could call an NFL game. And, in this case, they can pin a loss that hasn't happened on play calling that hasn't happened.

I know its crazy how these clowns have opinions and they aren't the same as yours. What a bunch of buffoons! :roll:
 

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bestfightstory":dcmne80p said:
We are 3-0.


Maybe we are calling the right plays?

Also, I recall Wilson's early passes vs Carolina and San Fran... Not so impressive.

Second guessing OC calls is all too easy.

You're right; the only thing easier is ragging on those that second-guess it. Also, we're 3-0 because of our defense way more than our offense. Stop making it out like I'm laying everything on Bevell's feet and Wilson's got no faults, because that's not what I'm doing, nor is it what I think. I think he's just erratic. Sometimes he's brilliant, sometimes he's boringly predictable. Both happen in virtually every game.

Do you think our insanely slow starts in D.C. and Atlanta in the playoffs were merely coincidence? Our guys hadn't woken up yet? Hungover for the first half and not the second? What?
 

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davidonmi":2p99r5ir said:
I have a sinking feeling we're gonna lose this game cause on paper the team looks so good
Schaub, Foster, Johnson, Hopkins, Daniels.
And on defense it all looks so good on paper.
But something about this team sorta stinks. I was watching a video where Prisco pointed out their pass rush has been really suspect, are they really worth all the cred I'm giving them. They are 2-1 but could easily be 0-3. Are they much better on paper than they really are? I would like to get a Texans fan perspective on this

According to pff Houston is the worst in the league in pass blocking @ -19.4 and good in run blocking @ +6.5

Conversley Seattle is very good in pass rush @ +11.8 and solid against the run @ +11.3


Houston is middle of the pack rushing the passer (mostly due to Watt) @ +1.6 and 3rd in the league defending the run @ +13.5

Seattle pass blocking leaves a lot to be desired @ -8.2 and terrible @ run blocking -18.7

Outside of JJ Watt we really don't have an accomplished pass rusher. Our OLB's are just for outside contain it seems. I don't think this match up bodes well for an anemic Houston offense going against the #1 defense in the league.
 

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I think the Texans deserve plenty of credit. They have built a team very similar in philosophy to ours and their defense is outstanding. Schaub has been inconsistent at times, but if you look at his home games last season he played well; he had a 102 QB Rating with only four interceptions. One of our main advantages is that they have a lot of key pieces on that defense who are questionable as of right now, specifically Jonathan Joseph (CB1), Kareem Jackson (CB2), Daryl Sharpton (ILB3), and Tim Dobbins (ILB4). I'm really looking forward to watching our game plan unfold and seeing whether our incentive to run the ball to neutralize their pass rush is going to outweigh our incentive to take advantage of missing secondary players down field.

No. I'm talking about just more creative and aggressive plays. Look at what we started off with last Sunday. Run through an A gap, run through an A gap, pass, punt.
Aggressive play calling would have higher expected returns but at the cost of higher risk. Last Sunday, the Jags only TD came from our offense making a mistake and giving them the ball back in our own red zone. If you have enough confidence in a defense then conservative offensive play calling could very well maximize your chance of winning. It won't maximize your point differential necessarily and it is a good way to lose games if you are overconfident in your defense, but given the right scenario it could be a viable strategy.

Taking a step back from this specific example, I agree with BFS that analyzing play calling after the fact is a dubious proposition for fans. At a high level fans should absolutely have opinions on whether the coaching staff is doing a good job or not. However, as you start diving into the details you inevitably pass a point at which the coaching staff has so much more information than you do as a fan that second guessing on your part provides no value.
 

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Everyone around here second-guesses things about our team occasionally, why should play calling be exempt? Name a person that didn't second-guess something after our loss to Atlanta. Yeah, I thought so. Ease up.

Our offense accomplished very little at Carolina, and it wasn't until the 49ers defense got tired that we really started scoring against them in our own home. We beat up on Jacksonville, but who doesn't this year?

If you think everything's fine and friggin' dandy on our offense at the moment, so be it. That's your opinion, and just like everyone else, you're entitled to yours. Mine differs, and in my OPINION, at least half of the problem is not utilizing our offensive talent as well as we could be. Bevell is not a BAD offensive coordinator, he's just very hot and cold; again, this is my OPINION, which apparently I have to reiterate to avoid certain people getting on my nuts. :roll:
 

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To answer your original question? YES. Know this. Schaub sucks...so Wilson's goal is....get up by 10 and witness the carnage. At this point Indianapolis worries me far more.
 

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I see this game as being somewhat similar to Carolina. 10am. Potential hot weather conditions. Seattle's defense wins the matchup advantage which should help to mitigate the 10am disadvantage to a degree. Like Carolina, they have a tough defense, though I think eventually Seattle will score on it in the second half. I expect the game to be tight at half time, and if Seattle has enough tough breaks against them, they'll lose. But unless the breaks favor Houston, I think Seattle wins. If Seattle plays a great game, it could be a multi-score win.

Wouldn't be shocked if Seattle goes 2-0 or 0-2 the next two weeks. Houston and Indy are close to average teams, and Seattle is an average team on the road at 10am.
 

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