Aldon Smith apparently arrested again

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Marvin49":2rp0q7g2 said:
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Smith won't ever be a Seahawk, he won't ever go to another NFCW team. I wouldn't blame the Niners for keeping him, but it will say a lot about the FO if they do retain him.

Already on the hook for other stuff, the Niners sent him to get himself straight and he made a choice of stupidity by either continuing to drink after getting a second chance or just being stupid at the airport. Either way, the guy is stupid. Fantastic player, no question, but DAMN...

The essence of your point is valid, but IF the Niners choose to release the dimwit, they won't have much say in where he plays out his career. That aside, with his past, the Niners might even see a trade with Seattle as the best of both worlds: They get our (?) and we get their headache. I do agree such a scenario is incredibly unlikely but stranger things have happened (and they've happened to us. lol).

Any official word on whether he was intoxicated or not? I have to think that report will be the determining factor in what's in store for his immediate future.

He will never be traded to Seattle. He could sign there after a release (which I don't think is going to happen), but it wouldn't be a trade.

As for his being intoxicated or not, I'm not sure we will ever know in any sort of official capacity because according to the police it wasn't a part of the case. The officer said that "he appeared to be drinking earlier but was not intoxicated". Can't remember exact wording, but she said essentially that he may have been drinking earlier but it had no bearing on the case.

That may not matter though. If he was drinking the Niners won't care if he is charged for that or if that's a part of the report. They only care if he was drinking because it would prove he hadn't learned the lesson, even if that wasn't what he was arrested for.

I'm curious, does Smith have some clause, whether imposed by the league, team or law, stating he cannot consume any amount of alcohol? If not, I think SF should make like the cops and not use alcohol as any determinate factor here. I mean, of course SF would prefer it if he didn't imbibe, but if he is permitted to do so (without reaching inebriation) and alcohol didn't even play a role in this airport ordeal, I don't see this as a very big deal and would have no issue with SF retaining him. I know I'd be saying this if he were a Hawk, so fair is fair.
 

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HawkWow":2to6colx said:
Marvin49":2to6colx said:
HawkWow":2to6colx said:
loafoftatupu":2to6colx said:
Smith won't ever be a Seahawk, he won't ever go to another NFCW team. I wouldn't blame the Niners for keeping him, but it will say a lot about the FO if they do retain him.

Already on the hook for other stuff, the Niners sent him to get himself straight and he made a choice of stupidity by either continuing to drink after getting a second chance or just being stupid at the airport. Either way, the guy is stupid. Fantastic player, no question, but DAMN...

The essence of your point is valid, but IF the Niners choose to release the dimwit, they won't have much say in where he plays out his career. That aside, with his past, the Niners might even see a trade with Seattle as the best of both worlds: They get our (?) and we get their headache. I do agree such a scenario is incredibly unlikely but stranger things have happened (and they've happened to us. lol).

Any official word on whether he was intoxicated or not? I have to think that report will be the determining factor in what's in store for his immediate future.

He will never be traded to Seattle. He could sign there after a release (which I don't think is going to happen), but it wouldn't be a trade.

As for his being intoxicated or not, I'm not sure we will ever know in any sort of official capacity because according to the police it wasn't a part of the case. The officer said that "he appeared to be drinking earlier but was not intoxicated". Can't remember exact wording, but she said essentially that he may have been drinking earlier but it had no bearing on the case.

That may not matter though. If he was drinking the Niners won't care if he is charged for that or if that's a part of the report. They only care if he was drinking because it would prove he hadn't learned the lesson, even if that wasn't what he was arrested for.

I'm curious, does Smith have some clause, whether imposed by the league, team or law, stating he cannot consume any amount of alcohol? If not, I think SF should make like the cops and not use alcohol as any determinate factor here. I mean, of course SF would prefer it if he didn't imbibe, but if he is permitted to do so (without reaching inebriation) and alcohol didn't even play a role in this airport ordeal, I don't see this as a very big deal and would have no issue with SF retaining him. I know I'd be saying this if he were a Hawk, so fair is fair.

No, but if he was drinking it means he didn't learn the lesson last year and they won't be too happy with that. You guys can laugh all you want, but the reality is that the 49er front office is embarrassed. I don't think they'll let him go, but they are tired of being in the news for the wrong reason.

The issue with Aldon isn't just that he might have been drinking...its that he's had multiple DUIs and has admitted he has a problem. That's why he was in rehab DURING THE SEASON last year. They have moved on under the impression that Aldon had cleaned up that portion of his life. Drinking again and then getting arrested just shows that he may not have taken it as seriously as they had hoped.
 

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Here's my question for those of you that might have some knowledge. After multiple alcohol related arrest, and then admittance to a treatment center, aren't you already on a last chance situation. Kinda like probation? Another alcoholic incident would be strike three regardless of how petty?
 

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DavidSeven":1iwex3bx said:
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My own view, after talking to several sources: Aldon Smith hasn't only lost the benefit of the doubt, he probably won't play for them in '14
Not sure he is on the whiner troll "approved writers/bloggers list". Judges???????
 

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Cartire":3vm2wtg3 said:
Here's my question for those of you that might have some knowledge. After multiple alcohol related arrest, and then admittance to a treatment center, aren't you already on a last chance situation. Kinda like probation? Another alcoholic incident would be strike three regardless of how petty?

It sure would seem like it. I mean, he fell asleep in an SUV after hitting a tree and left his foot on the gas causing the tires to spin and kick up rocks and grass. This was after he caught a break the first time he was charged with a DUI and it was reduced so he clearly didn't learn his lesson from that. I would think him showing up drunk in airport and yelling out bomb threats in anger would be the final straw considering some of the other things I didn't even mention.
 

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bigtrain21":1kxe26nz said:
Cartire":1kxe26nz said:
Here's my question for those of you that might have some knowledge. After multiple alcohol related arrest, and then admittance to a treatment center, aren't you already on a last chance situation. Kinda like probation? Another alcoholic incident would be strike three regardless of how petty?

I would think him showing up drunk in airport and yelling out bomb threats in anger would be the final straw considering some of the other things I didn't even mention.

Right. Except he apparently was not drunk and he didn't yell out any bomb threats.
 

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Cartire":3v2w9bno said:
Here's my question for those of you that might have some knowledge. After multiple alcohol related arrest, and then admittance to a treatment center, aren't you already on a last chance situation. Kinda like probation? Another alcoholic incident would be strike three regardless of how petty?

He is on double secret probation.
 

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Marvin49":1j0vhhll said:
No, but if he was drinking it means he didn't learn the lesson last year and they won't be too happy with that. You guys can laugh all you want, but the reality is that the 49er front office is embarrassed. I don't think they'll let him go, but they are tired of being in the news for the wrong reason.

The issue with Aldon isn't just that he might have been drinking...its that he's had multiple DUIs and has admitted he has a problem. That's why he was in rehab DURING THE SEASON last year. They have moved on under the impression that Aldon had cleaned up that portion of his life. Drinking again and then getting arrested just shows that he may not have taken it as seriously as they had hoped.

Who's laughing? Nothing you say here is news, Marvin. Smith's antics are well documented. But if alcohol "was not the problem"...then there is no sense in bringing alcohol into yesterday's event. Not here and not @ SF headquarters. Aldon appears to be semi- retarded. 24 going on 14, and that IMO, is the real problem.
 

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The 49ers would be pretty desperate at OLB if they didn't draft Corey Lemonier. I believe Lemonier and Skuta split time there when Smith was out. This would probably be the worst offseason ever for San Fran if a major offensive player tore his ACL like Crabtree did last season. Like it or not, the 49ers probably could easily still make the playoffs without Aldon.
 

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JZ#1":117o51pj said:
The 49ers would be pretty desperate at OLB if they didn't draft Corey Lemonier. I believe Lemonier and Skuta split time there when Smith was out. This would probably be the worst offseason ever for San Fran if a major offensive player tore his ACL like Crabtree did last season. Like it or not, the 49ers probably could easily still make the playoffs without Aldon.
Could go either way if you ask me. Arizona is no slouch and could pass SF IMHO with or without Smith.
 

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Honestly I think Arizona could pass all the NFCW teams they are no joke. At this point I would want Alldone gone. He I think has lost the team. Arizona is scary. And the Rams are close if they get a QB. Of course Seattle us still NFL champs so it should be a scary good season for the NFCW.
 

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I am not high on Arizona as long as Palmer is the QB. There defense is very good and Michael Floyd was a stud last year but the 49ers still beat them twice. One without Aldon Smith. I just don't see what makes Arizona better than SF. SF seems more explosive on offense and AZ will lose the turnover battle as long as Carson Palmer is QB. Even if Arizona's defense outperforms SF. However, anything can happen in the course of the season. All three teams are good enough that given circumstances either one of the three could take the division. So anything is possible.
 

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I get the feeling that Smith will be starting come week one. That court stuff will be pending when the season starts and that Harbafreak will give him the nod until he can't.

As far as the Cards go? They are going to need to be a lot more consistent for me to believe that they are at the SF/SEA level of football. They might make some noise but I wouldn't be surprised if they got swept by the Hawks and Niners in 2014. Sure, they beat the Hawks at home, but Seattle wins that game 9 out of 10 times.
 

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loafoftatupu":29jfvemg said:
I get the feeling that Smith will be starting come week one. That court stuff will be pending when the season starts and that Harbafreak will give him the nod until he can't.

As far as the Cards go? They are going to need to be a lot more consistent for me to believe that they are at the SF/SEA level of football. They might make some noise but I wouldn't be surprised if they got swept by the Hawks and Niners in 2014. Sure, they beat the Hawks at home, but Seattle wins that game 9 out of 10 times.

Isn't his gun case supposed to wrap up during this off-season?
 

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With a healthy Bradford, I think Stl is a bigger threat to SF (and us). I expect their rooks of last year, especially Ogletree on D and Austin on O /ST, to have break out years and if Stacy can duplicate last year, he alone is going to make Bradford better / healthier. They are not as far along as SF, but the Rams worry me as much, if not more, and I think Palmer will implode in this his (likely) final year for Zona. It's back to the cellar for them (imo).
 
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