A few random thoughts from this game

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We need more creative plays on offense. Seems that teams know what's coming before the ball is snapped. Offense is too predictable. And that I-formation ... we need more of that.
Screens, draws, slants, reverses, bootlegs right or left ... etc. We need to prevent defenses from T-ing of Wilson ... this is just getting ridiculous.
I was watching Seattle vs Tampa and NE vs Pittsburgh at the same time. Brady had 5 seconds to throw the ball. RW had 2 seconds to throw ... And everytime RW threw the ball, he was hit anyways ... We are getting our QB killed ... Someone needs to answer for this.

I agree. I'd love to see Russ with more time to throw; imagine how dangerous he'll be, again.

What's interesting is that although Wilson got hit a bunch, he never took a sack this game (I don't think...). Does that mean we're speeding up the throw? Or is it that we're just not playing the Rams D-line?
 

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Because RW is a mobile QB and he has enough speed to run away from those guys. Sometimes I wonder if those O-Linemen believe the RW will escape those rushers anyway, that's why they don't try hard enough to stop them. OK. I might be exaggerating but, could this Offensive line survive in NE or New Orleans? Those guys would be cut the same day and their QB would be in the hospital.

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I agree. I'd love to see Russ with more time to throw; imagine how dangerous he'll be, again.

What's interesting is that although Wilson got hit a bunch, he never took a sack this game (I don't think...). Does that mean we're speeding up the throw? Or is it that we're just not playing the Rams D-line?
 

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Seemed like the offensive line looked better against the Bucs. Just the opponent? I don't recall, anyone flat sprinting past McQuistan this week. Progress!
 

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Noticed that with McDaniel too. Pretty frustrating to have him assist with an extra 2 or 3 yards. You're huge, stand 'em up and let someone else take out the legs.
 

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joeseahawks":23otl8po said:
We need more creative plays on offense. Seems that teams know what's coming before the ball is snapped. Offense is too predictable. And that I-formation ... we need more of that.
Screens, draws, slants, reverses, bootlegs right or left ... etc. We need to prevent defenses from T-ing of Wilson ... this is just getting ridiculous.
I was watching Seattle vs Tampa and NE vs Pittsburgh at the same time. Brady had 5 seconds to throw the ball. RW had 2 seconds to throw ... And everytime RW threw the ball, he was hit anyways ... We are getting our QB killed ... Someone needs to answer for this.

If you watch almost any other game while watching Seattle, it's like night-and-day. Look at those gorgeous pockets! Occasionally there's quick pressure, but there's plenty of nice pockets to balance it out.
 

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Felt a lot like the WR were dropping a lot of passes early too. In the absence of Rice, I really think our WR were a little off until just before halftime, then they started coming on strong.
 

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Thanks for this Kearly, and agree with everything you said especially about Tony McDaniel......I think twice he stopped the RB at the line of scrimmage and for some reason threw him forward 4 or 5 yards for no reason.
 

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formido":1rbrzjpo said:
joeseahawks":1rbrzjpo said:
We need more creative plays on offense. Seems that teams know what's coming before the ball is snapped. Offense is too predictable. And that I-formation ... we need more of that.
Screens, draws, slants, reverses, bootlegs right or left ... etc. We need to prevent defenses from T-ing of Wilson ... this is just getting ridiculous.
I was watching Seattle vs Tampa and NE vs Pittsburgh at the same time. Brady had 5 seconds to throw the ball. RW had 2 seconds to throw ... And everytime RW threw the ball, he was hit anyways ... We are getting our QB killed ... Someone needs to answer for this.

If you watch almost any other game while watching Seattle, it's like night-and-day. Look at those gorgeous pockets! Occasionally there's quick pressure, but there's plenty of nice pockets to balance it out.

What's worse is Russell no longer trusts his protection, so even if there is a pocket, once it hits 2-3 seconds, Wilson takes his eyes off the WRs downfield and starts looking for escape routes, sometimes actually running into pressure/hits.
 

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It seemed as though the short slants and curls started coming in the 2nd half, along with more running out of the I. I have seen enough of Wilson getting hit and we have to fix it. As one of the previous posters stated I think it is his shoulder as well, he was visibly shaken as much as I have seen him after a shot that drove his non throwing shoulder into the ground.
 

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Having Robinson back is huge. He looked like he did before. You could see the way Lynch trusted him and took advantage of his second level blocks. Sure, Coleman could catch the ball, but running is our strength, and it showed today just how much MRob helps that.
 

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I know this is stating the obvious, but what a win. Did you ever think a win over an 0-7 team at home could ever feel this satisfying?

Yes, I felt much better after todays game than I did after last week's. Consider that we were coming off a Monday night game and managed to overcome 3 turnovers deep in TB territory. I was really glad to see the running game get going, although run defense is still a concern. I thought Stacy was fantastic last week and I did not expect our run defense to look as bad as it did today.

Yeah, I feel better about this win then the StL victory. At least today, we played one very good half of football. Last week it was terrible from start to finish, but we managed to eke it out.
 

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Well, if this game is what it took to get a few Random Thoughts from Kearly, then it is totally worth it!!
 

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This is honestly the first moment I've had to comment and/or truly reflect upon the game since it ended. I've not listened to or read any commentary, nor re-watched any game tape. So, my commentary here is pretty much still my raw, gut initial reactions/impressions based upon what I saw the first time around.

Big impressions regarding the game itself …

I hate to say it, but I think Howie Long and the Fox Crew’s Halftime comments were right on the money. They had the same initial impression that I had of the Seahawks. Hawk players may not admit to it, but it certainly seemed like the Seahawks came in to this game thinking it would be a cakewalk. It appeared to me that they looked at the Bucs 0-7 record … the fact that they were playing at the CLINK … and thought to themselves, “Eh, we’ve got this one in the bag.”

Conversely, the Bucs seemed to me to come in to this game thinking, “We’ve got nothing to lose. We’re playing the #1 team in the NFL – let’s show the rest of the nation that we don’t suck.” For those who have seen the movie For Love of the Game, it’s like Kevin Costner’s catcher’s comment, “Right now, we don’t stink anymore. In this moment, we’re the best team in baseball.” And man, the Bucs certainly played like that.

That 1st half seemed to me to be a real wake-up call to the Seahawk players that HEY, this is the NFL, where even the very worst team can rise up and bite you if you don’t bring you’re “A” game each and every Sunday.

• I’m with you Kearly in being extremely impressed with the run blocking and the run game of the Seahawks in general. I don’t know how many of you realized this … but the Tampa Bay Bucs (despite their record) are one of the best Run Defense teams in the league. The numbers they’ve amassed re: Run Defense are no fluke either because they put up the exact same kinds of numbers last year. Lavonte David is a guy that I’ve always loved as a player – if there was one guy off that Tampa Roster I’d love to have, it would be him (well, Derrell Revis and Vincent Jackson would be kinda nice as well). For the Hawks to manage 5.7 yards/carry and rack up 198 yards against THAT defense – very freaking impressive.

• Marshawn Lynch was a real difference maker in this game. Though he didn’t get in the end zone, he had some incredibly huge runs in clutch situations. In OT, he nearly single handedly carried the team to victory.

• Speaking of, how in the @%$&* do you drive down to the 3 Yard line and NOT go Beast Mode with 1st and Goal to go? Yeah Baldwin looked like he was open … but Tandy read Wilson’s eyes/body language perfectly on that play for the pick. THAT could have been a real momentum killer. Thankfully, the Hawks defense quickly forced a 3 and out … and the offense was able to punch it in.

• Can’t say it enough, Doug Baldwin is the man. That sideline toe dragger in the 3rd Quarter – Largent couldn’t have done it any better.

• Golden Tate. What a playmaker. That 71 yard punt return was a thing of beauty and turned out to be a monumental momentum shifting play.

• The Run Defense was perhaps the most concerning thing to me of all in the 1st Half. How the heck do the Hawks allow Mike James to gain 158 yards and to average 5.6 yards/carry? It looked to me that the Bucs were gaining most of those yards straight up the middle, pushing our DT’s and sealing off Bobby Wagner with excellent downfield blocks. Once he was out of the way, there was very little to stop him from gaining big yards. It wasn’t only that though, as James had a lot of yards after contact. He was bowling Seahawk defenders over – pushing them straight back like a bulldozer. Shades of late last season were flashing in front of my eyes.

• Kudos to Mike Glennon. I’d figured that he would get swallowed up in this environment. Instead, he showed a great deal of poise and made a lot of big plays under fire. He looks like a real up and comer in this league. It looked to me as if Glennon was having a lot of success hitting those slots receivers on those short slants right over the middle, attacking the linebacking corps in coverage. Again, at times it looked similar to me to the problems that the Seahawks defense had last season in covering slot receivers. It was TE Timothy Wright and RB Brian Leonard who caused a lot of the damage in the passing game. Seattle has yet to find a solution to how to effectively defend those routes.

• To me, the Bucs Defense really got away with a bit of murder in this game. There were some late shots on Wilson that I thought frankly deserved a flag. Wilson took a bit of a beating in this game and I’m honestly hoping that we don’t hear of a fracture in his non-throwing hand or a concussion tomorrow. Major kudos to Wilson on that last 10 yards TD to Baldwin. He stood in there KNOWING he was going to take a shot … and delivered a strike. The good ones all make those kinds of throws and it was kind of nice to see.

• Lastly, I’d be curious to break out the stopwatch and see (on average) exactly how fast Russell Wilson actually got the ball out of hands. In the 1st Quarter of the Rams game (at the 8:51 Mark), Robert Quinn beat McQuistan on an inside move and sacks Wilson for a 10 yard loss. Lost in the shuffle of that play was the fact that Wilson held the ball for 3.62 seconds on that play by my watch. That was but one example of many such plays. In this game however, it sure seemed like to me as if Wilson was getting the ball out much quicker in this game. I’m curious to see if the data actually supports that.
 

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"• Lastly, I’d be curious to break out the stopwatch and see (on average) exactly how fast Russell Wilson actually got the ball out of hands. In the 1st Quarter of the Rams game (at the 8:51 Mark), Robert Quinn beat McQuistan on an inside move and sacks Wilson for a 10 yard loss. Lost in the shuffle of that play was the fact that Wilson held the ball for 3.62 seconds on that play by my watch. That was but one example of many such plays. In this game however, it sure seemed like to me as if Wilson was getting the ball out much quicker in this game. I’m curious to see if the data actually supports that."

I would agree with this, however I think it was the play calling . Shorter routes =less time in Wilson's hands. I remember a few times being surprised that Bevell actually had those in his play book today...

One last thing I have to point out - the last play call in regulation time was brilliant (the screen to Lynch)... It was just way too late.
 

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formido":27nb2rc6 said:
Predicted the Kearse fumble during the run. I bet a lot of us did.

Yup, I had a bad feeling about it. With this team, I swear you can feel this type of stuff.
 

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Ag 8:44 in the 4th a TB defensive player dives at Russell's knees and takes him down by his lower left leg, yet no flag. Saw lots of holding by TB and was surprised they weren't called, maybe they let both sides play through it but it sure seemed like our DL was being held up.
 

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formido":2ru3bkc4 said:
Predicted the Kearse fumble during the run. I bet a lot of us did.
Did you also predict the two interceptions by Wilson too?, or all his fumbles so far this Season?, or how about the Lynch fumbles this Season?
I expect that the Coaches will work on him to get him to secure that ball a little better, but those things happen.
 

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Kearse seems to return kicks with a light jog, whereas Leon used to come screaming back out of the endzone.

I'm not convinced Kearse's method is the best way to approach things.
 

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Kearse seems to return kicks with a light jog, whereas Leon used to come screaming back out of the endzone.

I'm not convinced Kearse's method is the best way to approach things.

Moot point in a few weeks. Percy certainly doesn't jog out of anywhere.
 

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