4th & 1

[Sperrydogg]

OK, I respect that. But if you're going to kick the FG, why not at least line up as if you were going for it and try to get the defense to jump offside and take the 5 yard delay of game penalty if they don't? What's the difference between a 34-yard attempt and a 39-yard attempt?

Mac didn't even hesitate, sent the FG unit in as soon as the ref showed the clenched fist. He's a gutless coward.

I don’t think he’s a coward. I think he screwed up. I think he is gonna get better and honestly if riq woolen made either one of those plays he should have this would be different

 

[RiverDog]

I don’t think he’s a coward. I think he screwed up. I think he is gonna get better

Yeah, coward is probably over the top. It's Monday morning and I'm pissed, so I need to vent. But he did chicken out, took the path of least resistance.

Coaches go for it all the time when they're inside their own 40 and its 4th 2, yet Mac doesn't go for it on 4th and less than 1 on his opponents' 26 with an opportunity to put the game away? That's not a decision I'd like to explain to my offensive line if I were in his shoes.

I don't know if he's going to get better or not. That was a decision that doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out. One more of those types of calls and I'm off the bandwagon. I'll be calling for his head.

 

[Sperrydogg]

Yeah, coward is probably over the top. It's Monday morning and I'm pissed, so I need to vent. But he did chicken out, took the path of least resistance.

Coaches go for it all the time when they're inside their own 40 and its 4th 2, yet Mac doesn't go for it on 4th and less than 1 on his opponents' 26 with an opportunity to put the game away? That's not a decision I'd like to explain to my offensive line if I were in his shoes.

I don't know if he's going to get better or not. That was a decision that doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out. One more of those types of calls and I'm off the bandwagon. I'll be calling for his head.

Yeah me too, but I got 100 bucks that says he goes for it next time

 

[RiverDog]

Yeah me too, but I got 100 bucks that says he goes for it next time

If there is a next time. This would have been the perfect time to make a statement to his team, the season opener in front of a home crowd with everybody in the stadium wanting you to go for it.

What kind of offense was it that Mac supposedly wanted to get back to when he fired Grubbs? More running, right? Smash mouth football. I suspect that's one of the reasons why we drafted Milroe, because he is a running quarterback ala Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, the type of offense Mac was used to with the Ravens. He blew it.

 

[Sperrydogg]

If there is a next time. This would have been the perfect time to make a statement to his team, the season opener in front of a home crowd with everybody in the stadium wanting you to go for it.

What kind of offense was it that Mac supposedly wanted to get back to when he fired Grubbs? More running, right? Smash mouth football. I suspect that's one of the reasons why we drafted Milroe, because he is a running quarterback ala Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, the type of offense Mac was used to with the Ravens. He blew it.

There will be a next time….

 

[Seahawker]

 

[RiverDog]

There will be a next time….

There's only going to be one more "next time" for me. If he screws that one up, I'm done with him. This mistake is as close to unforgivable as they come.

 

[Sperrydogg]

There's only going to be one more "next time" for me. If he screws that one up, I'm done with him. This mistake is as close to unforgivable as they come.

Agreed

 

[SoulfishHawk]

The sentiment was popular in the gameday thread but I disagree wholeheartedly. You have a chance to take the lead late in the 4th quarter and you just have to take it. If we were up by 3 then I'd say go for it.

Even if it's a 70% chance of getting it, you're giving up a 95% chance of taking the lead over a 70% chance of having more of a chance to score a TD.

I can absolutely see both sides of it, and I probably in the minority, but I wanted them to take the points.

 

[Chapow]

I think Mac sent a pretty clear message to his team, the fans, and everyone else. He doesn't believe in them. He doesn't believe they can convert on 4th and less than a yard late in the 4th quarter with the game on the line. If he did, he would have gone for it.

I will also add, I'll bet the 9ers and their fans were pretty glad and relieved to see the Seahawks send out the FG unit there.

 

[RiverDog]

I can absolutely see both sides of it, and I probably in the minority, but I wanted them to take the points.

Even if you were for taking the points, why not at least line up as if to go for it and take the 5-yard delay of game penalty? Is there that much of a difference in a 37 yd attempt and a 42 yarder?

It's damn hard to defend this call. It's like putting lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I have a right to my opinion, just like you do. Both sides are valid. And it's VERY easy to say after the fact.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

I understand both sides.

On one side, the offense has done very little all game to guarantee you pick that up. You take the points. Your D has let them move the ball but can't seem to put points on the board. Their kicker was struggling. Also a lot of PTSD from last year where we couldn't pick that up ever.

On the other side, if you had failed you could've pinned them back a bit further. The emphasis this offseason was to dictate terms and be smash mouth run the ball down your throat football. What better way to accomplish that then at the end of a close divisional game that would likely seal the game.

The wild card was Woolen looking like he had 0 desire to be out on the field.

I get both side of the argument but I think you have to take the points since points were at a premium. If it was a high scoring game I might say different.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Yup, and a chance to take the lead.

 

[chris98251]

Do you go for it in the Super Bowl? It's 10-10 with less than 2 minutes remaining in the SB and you go for it in chip-shot field goal range?

If your playing the Patriots with Brady and Bill yes, you don't want them to have the ball with 2 minutes, you want more then three hopefully 8 in this situation.

 

[chris98251]

Psychologically a touchdown decimates the opponenet more then they stopped you and we had to settle for a field goal, it also will invigorante the offense and put a bounce in their step, says something from the coach to them as well is I have faith in you guys as much as the defense. It would have also ate at least another minute off the clock. All sorts of good only bad is a miss and we play defense anyway.

 

[Appyhawk]

I know one thing for sure. I would have been a killer good make every call perfectly coach the day after the game.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

No doubt. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. Welcome to football.

 

[beaumaris]

I know hindsight is 20/20 but in real time I was yelling at the tv. Worst that happens is it’s a tie game and they have to drive the field for a FG, best case we drain the clock, score a TD and make them burn timeouts. The analytics had to be go for it.

I hated that call in real time and argued with my mother-in-law that it was a dumb call. Father-in-law agreed with me though

And why are they handing the ball to Walker in the red zone?

 

[Ostatehawk]

We had pressure on Purdy sometimes, but there were a lot of times where he was comfortable in the pocket with time to throw. The people and I who watched the game together remarked several times that he had all day to throw the ball. It was a very mixed bag when it came to QB pressure yesterday. I think even the defensive stats I looked at painted an exaggerated picture of our pass rush pressure.

I saw us get pressure fairly regular - Purdy generally did a nice job dealing with it. Credit where credit is due - he is better than I thought.