24-9 at half time and another defensive implosion at home

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Ken Norton gotta have hours of incriminating files on Pete to walk away unharmed after allowing a RB check down to score 2 4th quarter TD’s without making a single adjustment.

This defense continues to be absolutely horrendous. 6 dropped passes and gave up 550ish yards.
 

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mistaowen":v0u9mslx said:
Ken Norton gotta have hours of incriminating files on Pete to walk away unharmed after allowing a RB check down to score 2 4th quarter TD’s without making a single adjustment.

This defense continues to be absolutely horrendous.

So 24-9 it ends.. with us having 30.... but.. its the defense? Maybe the offense should score.. maybe they should call legit plays on 3 and 3... Just saying.
 

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This was on the offense. Defense was fine 1st half. They got gassed after offense repeatedly going 3 and out. Look at the TOP. Couldn't get the run going. Where in the hell was the motion and misdirection?
 
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balakoth":p5wi0lch said:
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Ken Norton gotta have hours of incriminating files on Pete to walk away unharmed after allowing a RB check down to score 2 4th quarter TD’s without making a single adjustment.

This defense continues to be absolutely horrendous.

So 24-9 it ends.. with us having 30.... but.. its the defense? Maybe the offense should score.. maybe they should call legit plays on 3 and 3... Just saying.

Offense struggled but are you serious? Defense didn’t get a stop for like 3 straight quarters. 550 yards. 33 points at home. Most teams should be fine scoring 30 points. Do they need to score 45 points a game to help out the defense?
 

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Take back TOP, they only had it for 6 more minutes. Strange because it seemed like longer
 

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mistaowen":2q3txhpk said:
Ken Norton gotta have hours of incriminating files on Pete to walk away unharmed after allowing a RB check down to score 2 4th quarter TD’s without making a single adjustment.

This defense continues to be absolutely horrendous.

This defense is terrible but they got no help from the offense in the second half. They were totally gassed. John and Pete have done an absolutely horrible job building this defense. It would be nice if we had an owner that would hold these two accountable.
 

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Norton called the same base defense every single play. We essentially conceded scores every time they had the ball in the 2nd half hoping the clock would run out.
 

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Situational football says that when the opposing team is gaining momentum and closing your lead, you run the ball down their throats, break their will, and drain the clock. The pass happy 2nd half was to blame for the defense's woes. Henry abused every team he played last year. We just set the table for him by giving him as many possessions as he needed to get rolling.

Stupid.

Hubris.

WANTING TO PASS TO WIN RATHER THAN RUN.
 

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cymatica":2087584m said:
Take back TOP, they only had it for 6 more minutes. Strange because it seemed like longer

What?

Final TOP was Tennessee 47 to Seattle 22
 

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emurri":3rb01iil said:
mistaowen":3rb01iil said:
Ken Norton gotta have hours of incriminating files on Pete to walk away unharmed after allowing a RB check down to score 2 4th quarter TD’s without making a single adjustment.

This defense continues to be absolutely horrendous.

This defense is terrible but they got no help from the offense in the second half. They were totally gassed. John and Pete have done an absolutely horrible job building this defense. It would be nice if we had an owner that would hold these two accountable.

You can't blame the defense. It was 24 to 9 at the half and instead of grinding out the yards on the ground and giving the D time to rest, we 'kept our foot on the gas' and drove right into a ditch.

This isn't on the D.

Tennessee will do this to every team it plays. Few can stop Henry and their ground game once it gets going. You can't blame Norton for trying to take away the sledge hammer that was cracking our skulls.

This is on a pass happy, ill conceived pass game and horrible execution on O.
 

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It was on the defense. They gave up soooo many chunk plays. They did hold them to a bunch of field goals but Tennessee got a lot of yards in the process. Our offense did not score when needed but they still put up 30. Defense was a seive the whole game. How many 3 and outs have they had??? I felt like they could just run whatever they wanted and get some chunk yards. Lots of real estate midfield the whole game.

Also riddle me this. How come teams can run all over us on a screen play but we can never put on together on offense. Not just this game either?
 
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Offense was bad in the second half, not going to remove blame from them in this total team collapse. I don’t know why it reverted to the 2020 offense - it was a STARK difference compared to the variety and scheme of week 1.

My point is that this defense was downright terrible last year and the same exact issues appear to be here this year. I don’t get why Schotty was fired but Ken wasn’t. Both should have been gone. Ken was run out of Oakland and for some unknown reason has been able to keep his job while the defense gets worse each year. Solid positional coach, players from what I hear like him, but should not be a DC. They made absolutely no adjustments for most of second half and gave up almost 600 yards. With 6 pretty easy drops by the Titans as well. Something is broken and they seem completely unable or unwilling to fix it.
 

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This is on Pete. We played soft in the beginning of the second half on D, and then we thought we could could run the ball and wind down the clock. Pete never changes.
 

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keasley45":1wlw0ntc said:
emurri":1wlw0ntc said:
mistaowen":1wlw0ntc said:
Ken Norton gotta have hours of incriminating files on Pete to walk away unharmed after allowing a RB check down to score 2 4th quarter TD’s without making a single adjustment.

This defense continues to be absolutely horrendous.

This defense is terrible but they got no help from the offense in the second half. They were totally gassed. John and Pete have done an absolutely horrible job building this defense. It would be nice if we had an owner that would hold these two accountable.

You can't blame the defense. It was 24 to 9 at the half and instead of grinding out the yards on the ground and giving the D time to rest, we 'kept our foot on the gas' and drove right into a ditch.

This isn't on the D.

Tennessee will do this to every team it plays. Few can stop Henry and their ground game once it gets going. You can't blame Norton for trying to take away the sledge hammer that was cracking our skulls.

This is on a pass happy, ill conceived pass game and horrible execution on O.

Norton went into prevent defense at the start of the 3rd quarter, this is more on the defense than the offense.

I will agree that the playcalling in overtime was abysmal.
 

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andyh64000":2y2wmij5 said:
keasley45":2y2wmij5 said:
emurri":2y2wmij5 said:
mistaowen":2y2wmij5 said:
Ken Norton gotta have hours of incriminating files on Pete to walk away unharmed after allowing a RB check down to score 2 4th quarter TD’s without making a single adjustment.

This defense continues to be absolutely horrendous.

This defense is terrible but they got no help from the offense in the second half. They were totally gassed. John and Pete have done an absolutely horrible job building this defense. It would be nice if we had an owner that would hold these two accountable.

You can't blame the defense. It was 24 to 9 at the half and instead of grinding out the yards on the ground and giving the D time to rest, we 'kept our foot on the gas' and drove right into a ditch.

This isn't on the D.

Tennessee will do this to every team it plays. Few can stop Henry and their ground game once it gets going. You can't blame Norton for trying to take away the sledge hammer that was cracking our skulls.

This is on a pass happy, ill conceived pass game and horrible execution on O.

Norton went into prevent defense at the start of the 3rd quarter, this is more on the defense than the offense.

I will agree that the playcalling in overtime was abysmal.

I really, really don't think that prevent defense statement is true.
 

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Maelstrom787":2mm3wuvh said:
andyh64000":2mm3wuvh said:
keasley45":2mm3wuvh said:
emurri":2mm3wuvh said:
This defense is terrible but they got no help from the offense in the second half. They were totally gassed. John and Pete have done an absolutely horrible job building this defense. It would be nice if we had an owner that would hold these two accountable.

You can't blame the defense. It was 24 to 9 at the half and instead of grinding out the yards on the ground and giving the D time to rest, we 'kept our foot on the gas' and drove right into a ditch.

This isn't on the D.

Tennessee will do this to every team it plays. Few can stop Henry and their ground game once it gets going. You can't blame Norton for trying to take away the sledge hammer that was cracking our skulls.

This is on a pass happy, ill conceived pass game and horrible execution on O.

Norton went into prevent defense at the start of the 3rd quarter, this is more on the defense than the offense.

I will agree that the playcalling in overtime was abysmal.

I really, really don't think that prevent defense statement is true.

Prevent defense? He was in base to stop Henry.

Offense had one drive in the 2nd half that wasn't a punt . And the majority of those pubts were 3 and outs. You cannot put your defense on the field against the titans thst many times. It's exactly their formula to win.

We had one drive all game more than 2 minutes long...
 

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mistaowen":czugdz8h said:
balakoth":czugdz8h said:
mistaowen":czugdz8h said:
Ken Norton gotta have hours of incriminating files on Pete to walk away unharmed after allowing a RB check down to score 2 4th quarter TD’s without making a single adjustment.

This defense continues to be absolutely horrendous.

So 24-9 it ends.. with us having 30.... but.. its the defense? Maybe the offense should score.. maybe they should call legit plays on 3 and 3... Just saying.

Offense struggled but are you serious? Defense didn’t get a stop for like 3 straight quarters. 550 yards. 33 points at home. Most teams should be fine scoring 30 points. Do they need to score 45 points a game to help out the defense?
Sometimes HOW you get your points is more important than how many. That was the worst offensive execution you'll see resulting in 30 points with no defensive scores
 

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emurri":3vet9nqh said:
mistaowen":3vet9nqh said:
Ken Norton gotta have hours of incriminating files on Pete to walk away unharmed after allowing a RB check down to score 2 4th quarter TD’s without making a single adjustment.

This defense continues to be absolutely horrendous.

This defense is terrible but they got no help

from the offense in the second half. They were totally gassed. John and Pete have done an absolutely horrible job building this defense. It would be nice if we had an owner that would hold these two accountable.


They got a double digit lead with under 1 qtr. If they are gassed with only a 6 minute top difference then the should be back playing pee wee.
 

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John63":2kolg6uc said:
emurri":2kolg6uc said:
mistaowen":2kolg6uc said:
Ken Norton gotta have hours of incriminating files on Pete to walk away unharmed after allowing a RB check down to score 2 4th quarter TD’s without making a single adjustment.

This defense continues to be absolutely horrendous.

This defense is terrible but they got no help

from the offense in the second half. They were totally gassed. John and Pete have done an absolutely horrible job building this defense. It would be nice if we had an owner that would hold these two accountable.


They got a double digit lead with under 1 qtr. If they are gassed with only a 6 minute top difference then the should be
back playing pee wee.

6 minute TOP difference? Lol, where?
 

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John63":me1urf15 said:
emurri":me1urf15 said:
mistaowen":me1urf15 said:
Ken Norton gotta have hours of incriminating files on Pete to walk away unharmed after allowing a RB check down to score 2 4th quarter TD’s without making a single adjustment.

This defense continues to be absolutely horrendous.

This defense is terrible but they got no help

from the offense in the second half. They were totally gassed. John and Pete have done an absolutely horrible job building this defense. It would be nice if we had an owner that would hold these two accountable.


They got a double digit lead with under 1 qtr. If they are gassed with only a 6 minute top difference then the should be back playing pee wee.


TOP was 42 minutes to 22 minutes. Know what your talking about.
 

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