Russell Wilson Retires

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Amen Brother. That Jermaine Kearse catch to send us to the Superbowl was a wondrous thing. As was Warren Moon's reaction. "Game over Baby!" :)



Loved Kearse. Were it not for at least a couple circus grabs from him, we wouldn't have made it to the dance.
 

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Well yeah, we probably win that game with Max Brosmer under center, but Russ played a prodigious role in leading the team that far. If he goes down with an injury in Week 3 and we have to trot out Trevone Boykin the rest of the season, Niners fans can likely watch their most recent championship without dusting off a VHS cassette that says "Super Bowl/Last Week's Baywatch".
 

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The way I look at it is this, he forced his way out, but I think John was trying to figure out a way to gracefully get rid of him. Then Russ's ego took over, John traded him to Denver for a king's ransom, and we come out on the other end smelling like a bed of Roses, with JS looking like a Genius.

Russ' behavior resulted in him ending his football career, and in getting us a 2nd Superbowl with all of those picks. So I can't hate on him, because he did us a favor.
 

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Russ was my favorite player for a decade. He helped the team win 2 conference championships and a Super Bowl, and he delivered 10 excellent seasons. We were rarely out of a game, and always had a shot with Russ under center. He compiled a 113-60-1 record with us, and that is simply better than most QBs have done.

One day, I am sure we will have Russ come back, along with Pete, and be entered into the Ring of Honor as he should be. It was a pleasure watching him, especially when he wound up and delivered one of those moon balls. I am grateful that we drafted him, and that Pete had the foresight to name Russ the starter over Matt Flynn as a rookie, even tho Flynn had the big contract. It was a great move and Russ certainly delivered.

Go Hawks!
 

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He’ll always be one of my favorite Seahawk players of all time. The negative people are, well, negative. That’s their problem, and maybe they should just get over it.

He’s a first ballot HOF QB with a bright future ahead. Thank you for the great memories Russell
Agree to disagree on first ballot hof
 

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Lol are we actually giving Russ credit for lx win???
How could you not? He had multiple game winning drives down the stretch that year, played well in the playoffs and was solid until it was obvious they didn't need him in the SB. They don't get to the SB without Russ that year.
 

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Since I know I'm going to end up getting into it anyway when people disagree with my last point, here's what Russ has working against him for the HOF, especially now that the NFL has made a conscious decision to let fewer players in:

- His volume stats are good, but not good enough to overcome everything else. He's not Top 10 in any meaningful stat right now (passing yards, TDs), and will be even further down when he's eligible in five years. Stuff like QB rating won't matter that much since the entire list is modern players (Steve Young is the only QB in the top 12 who played this century. Guys like Jimmy Garoppolo and Tua Tagovailoa are high on it. Fans like to point out how Russ' stats compare to inductees from yesteryear, but voters understand the evolution of the game, and the argument that he had a better INT percentage than Joe Namath won't hold much water.

- The accolades aren't there. He has just one All-Pro and it was second team. No MVPs, not even an MVP vote. No All-Decade. He has many Pro Bowls, which work in his favor, but those will likely become very devalued in the future now that everyone makes the Pro Bowl. I believe quite a few of the ones he does have are as an injury replacement.

- A lot of the narratives won't be friendly to him. One thing that will be discussed is how much of his one championship was him, and how much was his iconic, all-time defense that gave up just eight points to a record-setting offense in the Super Bowl. Then there's the championship-losing, if not dynasty-ending INT. Then you have the stigma from being part of one of the worst trades of all time, with the team acquiring him willing to take on the then biggest dead salary hit in history just to get rid of him, just two years later. Then there were two other teams that couldn't wait to move on from him.

I just don't see how he makes it. He might not even make it past the semifinal round.
Third most touchdowns in the entire NFL since entering the league, His efficiency stats are all time good and he's top 5 in passer rating, unbelievable TD/INT ratio, One of the best two way quarterbacks in history and rushed for 800 yards in a single year, won a SB and made it to another etc. His resume dwarfs many that are already in.

The MVP argument is wild because he really should have won 2 and they got stolen from him.

Go look at the stats of every QB in and compare them with Russ and tell me he shouldn't be in.
 

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I didn’t care for Russ towards the end, but he certainly was a key factor in some very good years for me as a Seahawk fan.

Having said that, @kidhawk and Russ both deserve a measure of respect here at .net, they've both earned it.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, if you have nothing positive to say here go start your own thread, or post your thoughts in one of the others.

Stay within the spirit of the OP or don’t post here.

Fair warning ?
I think so.

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Congrats to Russ on his retirement. Is was so exciting and fun to watch the Seahawks knowing they could pull a win out in any game, however improbable it may have seemed.

I hope he took a retirement course. Not many people have the luxury of 'retiring' at the age of 37. That's staring at a lot of idle time....
 

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It's complicated for me now on how I feel on Russ with the career over. I want to forget the last few years and just remember the first part of his career with us. there's pics of me in a jersey I haven't worn since 2021 that's proof I was a big fan. Maybe it's too soon still the let go that he turned his back on the team and wanted out. Part of my anger towards him during that whole last few years was hearing how he was doing things behind the scenes, like wanting to bring Peyton in. That might just be me angry at myself for being sucked into the persona of a guy who it turns out he wasn't.
One thing that's making me let go of the bad feelings is he got his karma for wanting out of Seattle. Rather than proving to the world the Seahawks and Pete's style were holding him back what actually happened it was ended up looking more and more was the Seattle environment had a big part in making him great and he never found that again after he left.
 

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How could you not? He had multiple game winning drives down the stretch that year, played well in the playoffs and was solid until it was obvious they didn't need him in the SB. They don't get to the SB without Russ that year.
Sorry I might screwed up..was talking about our last win with Darnold. That what the reference sounded like
 

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Third most touchdowns in the entire NFL since entering the league, His efficiency stats are all time good and he's top 5 in passer rating, unbelievable TD/INT ratio, One of the best two way quarterbacks in history and rushed for 800 yards in a single year, won a SB and made it to another etc. His resume dwarfs many that are already in.

The MVP argument is wild because he really should have won 2 and they got stolen from him.

Go look at the stats of every QB in and compare them with Russ and tell me he shouldn't be in.
Which modern inductees does he "dwarf"? If these guy's stats are being compared to the QBs of the 60s, everyone will get in. You could say Aikman, which is still modern-ish, but he has that whole three championships thing. Warner has volume stats that fall behind, but he has one of the all-time greatest peaks and his championship team was known for an iconic offense rather than an iconic defense.

Russ has some stuff in his favor, but I just don't see where he has enough to overcome everything working against him, and I don't see that stuff looking even better in five years when he's eligible, when we're seeing QBs routinely putting up monster numbers. And with the tightening in voting, you need a special case to get in, not merely a decent one.
 

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He’ll always be one of my favorite Seahawk players of all time. The negative people are, well, negative. That’s their problem, and maybe they should just get over it.

He’s a first ballot HOF QB with a bright future ahead. Thank you for the great memories Russell
A first ballot HOF'er? I agree, we don't need the negativity in this thread, but nor do we need heavily spiked Kool Aid, either.

Eli Manning hasn't' come close to getting a gold jacket in two seasons of eligibility despite having 2 SB MVP's and more passing yards and TD passes than Russell has. Plus, you have to consider Russell's huge belly flop at the end of his career and the fact that out of 50 voters in the league MVP balloting, he never received a single vote in any season. I'm not saying that Manning should have gotten in, rather as a voter, it's hard to justify voting for Russell when you didn't vote for Eli.

But I'll stop there with the negativity. He was an exciting player to watch, and I'll always be grateful for his contributions to what was the best period of Seahawk football in franchise history. He's the best QB this franchise has had, and that's saying something when you consider that we're in our 50th season. He's a slam dunk for the ROH.
 

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Which modern inductees does he "dwarf"? If these guy's stats are being compared to the QBs of the 60s, everyone will get in. You could say Aikman, which is still modern-ish, but he has that whole three championships thing. Warner has volume stats that fall behind, but he has one of the all-time greatest peaks and his championship team was known for an iconic offense rather than an iconic defense.

Russ has some stuff in his favor, but I just don't see where he has enough to overcome everything working against him, and I don't see that stuff looking even better in five years when he's eligible, when we're seeing QBs routinely putting up monster numbers. And with the tightening in voting, you need a special case to get in, not merely a decent one.
how many guys are way ahead of him statistically? His rating, TD/INT, Rushing, efficiency, his 4th quarter stuff, game winning drives all of it .... I mean his third in the league in touchdowns since entering the league 13 years ago. That's not upper tier?

I think people are mad at Russ so they hold him to standards that no other guys are held to.

The numbers for Wilson vs the average HOF QB even the new era would make him an automatic inductee.
 

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