You have the right approach to drafting. If two players on your big board are closely ranked, you draft the one in a position of need.
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Along with having one that is healthy and consistent and be around for the very long haul.
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Graham Barton or Jackson Powers-Johnson? I kind of like Barton better, tbh. Sounds like he could be gone by pick 20, or the end of the first.
Olu Oluwatimi C Michigan 6'2"
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Four-year starter and highly decorated player who was part of a unit that won the Joe Moore Award (best offensive line in college football) in consecutive years. Oluwatimi benefited from tight splits and a scheme designed to take advantage of double teams up front. He will bend a little at the waist, but displays good technique on double teams and generates decent drive on base blocks. He lacks the lateral quickness needed for range as a run blocker and must learn to better recognize and respond to twists in pass protection. Oluwatimi has future starting potential but could struggle in a scheme that forces him to play in space.Jackson Powers-Johnson C Oregon 6'3"
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Broadly built center prospect with below-average length but above-average upper-body power. Powers-Johnson isn’t much of a knee-bender, which impacts his pad level and drive leverage, but he can torque and toss opponents around with some regularity at the point. Powers-Johnson is a fierce competitor with a salty disposition but needs to improve his first-phase technique to create more consistent block sustains. Despite average athleticism, he doesn’t seem to have many issues in pass protection, as he works with clear eyes, a wide base and good discipline to keep his weight back. His rookie season could be bumpy if he has to play early, but he should come out on the other side as a long-time starter.
Graham Barton C Duke 6'5"
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Reviewing Barton’s tape is a pleasurable experience in offensive line evaluation, as his tenacity and know-how are on full display throughout. Though he played at a high level at left tackle, center will likely be his NFL home. Barton is an explosive drive blocker with the body control and leg drive to keep opponents centered and finish the job. His hands are sudden, accurate and strong in both phases, but a lack of length will create occasional challenges on the next level. His fluidity creates an advantage as a second-level climber, and he’s highly capable in the screen game. Barton’s technique, toughness and athleticism are exactly what teams will be looking for from an early starter with Pro Bowl potential.
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I was incapacitated much of this week. Have Connor Williams and/or Kevin Zeitler signed anywhere yet?
hawkfan68
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Zeitler signed with Lions. https://www.detroitlions.com/news/lions-sign-unrestricted-free-agent-g-kevin-zeitler
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Dammit, he looked really good last year. Not everyone on the team can be 22.
JPJ and Barton are being linked to a lot of teams drafting in the 20s. Steelers, Cowboys, Bucs, etc.
So a lot of teams are looking at the interior OL in rounds 1 and 2 because it is cost effective to find guards/centers through the draft than pay up through free agency.
So a lot of teams are looking at the interior OL in rounds 1 and 2 because it is cost effective to find guards/centers through the draft than pay up through free agency.
Hawkinaz
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I am having my doubts that JS will use a 1st rd pick on IOL, maybe a 2nd or 3rd
Seahawks GM John Schneider on his 2024 NFL Draft Strategy >>> https://sports.mynorthwest.com/cate...eeacd925787a&n=The+John+Schneider+Show&i=1706
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It does feel a little short-sighted, though.
It makes sense for Detroit. They're already competing. For us, we need to get some dudes in place to build continuity for a longer haul.
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I generally agree with your comments around here, and I'm not exactly disagreeing with the main point of the part of this comment that I gave boldface and color emphasis above. More specifically, I agree that relying on a rookie for a given role on an NFL team is risky. I just want to suggest the possibility that finding the distribution of likely results for any given player, including a rookie, is not impossible. However, I'll agree that most people (and teams) haven't figured out how to reliably predict the performance of rookies.
One of the myths about baseball that Bill James destroyed (working alone as a night watchman in a pork-and-beans cannery with time on his hands) was the idea that minor-league performance didn't tell you anything about how the player would do in the majors. James figured out that if you adjust stats for league and park, minor-league stats can tell you quite a bit about how that player would do in the majors. An easy example is that the Pacific Coast League tended to inflate offensive performance, and then Dodgers players who had hit like Ted Williams in AAA were promoted to play in Dodger Stadium, which was then one of the most offense-deflating parks in MLB, and their performance at the plate was nowhere close to what "experts" had expected. But this kind of lack of adjustment affected the evaluations of major-league players too. Wrigley Field used to inflate offense a lot relative to the rest of the league (this was before the abomination in Colorado), so the North Side Chumps always thought they had enough offense and needed more defense and pitching. Similarly, the Dodgers always thought they had enough pitching and needed better hitters because Dodger Stadium was inflating the performance of the former and deflating the performance of the latter. Some bad hitters who played in "hitters' parks" ended up getting big contracts and then not hitting like people had been expecting them to hit.
If you look at giant NFL trade (and contract-extension) busts like Jamal Adams and Russell Wilson, to use two examples with which we're all quite familiar, it's clear that in each case, the team paying a lot to acquire a player and then giving him an extension did a terrible job predicting the future performance of an established NFL player. So the difficulties teams have evaluating future player performance are not limited to rookie performance. One advantage of making such a mistake with a rookie rather than a veteran is that the financial impact tends to be lower. The Broncos are utterly screwed this year and will still be feeling quite a bit of salary-cap pain in 2025 because of a giant mistake they made in predicting the future performance of a veteran.
Another example from not all that long ago that shows that NFL teams have a lot of difficulty projecting veteran performance too is the 2011 Philadelphia Eagles' spending spree and construction of their so-called "dream team." The Eagles' 2011 "dream team" won two fewer games than the 2010 team had won (10-6 in 2010, 8-8 in 2011). The early Carroll Seahawks convincingly beat that "dream team" 31-14 for one of just seven victories that season. Neither team made the playoffs.
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A few well-placed vets don't really hurt anyone. Heck, Matt Hasselbeck credited 90-year-old Jeff George for helping him bust through this early struggles. With the length of NFL contracts, we're never going to have the same starting five every year for the next ten seasons.
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I agree that it would have been nice to sign a decent vet or two for the interior line (and no, I don't count Anchrum or Harris as anything more than depth pieces). But given how much you had to pay for a FA guard, I can see why we didn't come away with anyone. I thought the Panthers were crazy to spend $150 million on Damien Lewis and Robert Hunt, but the Rams spent $100 million (over 3 years) for Kevin Dotson and Jonah Jackson. And isn't Jackson just a JAG? I don't get it.
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Seahawks eyeing Laken Tomlinson? The author of this article seems to think so - https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...n&cvid=a2ca50dfebc1477e98c118b772a3f2da&ei=10
Interesting. Might take some cap finagling. Sounds durable enough.
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