Sam Howell is Geno's Backup!!

This is football. The first thing I thought when learned of this trade is JS must have really liked him in the draft. Not sure why not then as Maelstrom points out, but who knows.
The second thing I thought was this board would be blowing up. Yup. Got us talking Hawks. I'm tired after page 3, though.
This is a good pickup. Makes me suspicious if Geno might be available for trade.
Welcome to the Seahawks, Sam. We're happy to have you and hope the best for your future here.

Go Hawks (we need some linebackers, though)

86Hawk said:

Don't get this one. We could have done way more with that pick.

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Like what????
Howel has a good arm, he's >young<, has TWO YEARS of NFL EXPERIENCE, and You KNOW pretty much what the kid has to offer, AND is on an upward trajectory(Being Real here) he could actually IMPROVE with a little better Coaching.
You could Draft a QB that LOOKS like he has all the 'Bell's & Whistles, and realize that you've rolled Snake Eyes', TBH I like this Aquisition, and it leaves OPTIONS to go after players that better fit in the trenches.
There are still a lot of Open Doors.

Chukarhawk said:

Despite throwing a metric ass ton of picks he does look better than Lock. 21 picks in a single season are a LOT of picks.

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He also threw for just under 4000 yards on a bad team. With the right coaching and system, he could be a 4000+ yard QB with 28 TD and 10 INT. Not HOf, but a solid qb.

It would be insane to consider Howell QBOTF. But Back Up Of The Future seems OK. BUOTF isn't as catchy.

Bear-Hawk said:

Is this supposed to be the QB1 future franchise QB, or what?

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Possibly he will be at least a cheap QB while the rest of the team gets built up he has a $1 million AAV for the next 2 years. My guess is Howell and Geno fight it out for 2024, Geno is released 2025 and Howell will be the man if he already isn’t in 2024

YES WE’RE HEADED TO A SB! Sam will take us!!

Lighten up all. New regime, new ways of going about stuff .. there may be some approaches that are the same but let’s just see how this all works out first before we start slamming a player who hasn’t even had a chance on even a halfway decent team

TwistedHusky said:

It would be insane to consider Howell QBOTF. But Back Up Of The Future seems OK. BUOTF isn't as catchy.

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Why is it insane? 3900 yards, 63% completion % last year. Coach him up the next year or two, and cut down the INT, and his stats are on par with Purdy. He’s at least in the conversation for QBOTF, more than Lock or even Geno. At worst he’s a mid level starter., while looking for a real top tier qb. Which at pick 16, seems unlikely this year.

He was in just his 2nd year, and Geno has only had one year in his career that he threw for more yards and TDs, than what Howell did this year.

TwistedHusky said:

It would be insane to consider Howell QBOTF. But Back Up Of The Future seems OK. BUOTF isn't as catchy.

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Why did they bring in Mariota to backup Drake Maye instead of just leave Howell to be the backup? Once they got Mariota, they had little need to keep a QB who they benched last year and who lead the NFL in sacks and interceptions. Did Seahawks overpay for a QB they were ready to get rid of anyway? Giving up the third round pick hurts. You can often get a starter from the third round.

I was just listening to some news regarding Howell and it seems as if he had a low turn over rate in college until he lost his receivers to the NFL. Anyone else see this segment on the NFL network?

Kids a gunslinger. Big arm, tough, teammates rally around him, he gets through his progressions when he has any time, he's young and cheap. A lot of his int's were balls he forced. He'll step up in the pocket instead of just bailing, even when he knows he's gonna take a big hit. I'd say our weapons are better than theirs from top to bottom. Say they pick a JPJ, Fautanu, Beebe, Fuaga with 16, that's starting to look like a pretty good OL, too.
I don't know how anyone can speak in absolutes about Howell at this point. He hasn't had a ton of success to start his career, but how anyone can say he'll never be good is foolish.

Bear-Hawk said:

Why did they bring in Mariota to backup Drake Maye instead of just leave Howell to be the backup? Once they got Mariota, they had little need to keep a QB who they benched last year and who lead the NFL in sacks and interceptions. Did Seahawks overpay for a QB they were ready to get rid of anyway? Giving up the third round pick hurts. You can often get a starter from the third round.

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Not at quarterback.

Howell got screwed by idiotic running of the offense. Led the league in pass attempts as a first time full time starter. That's setting you up for failure. He actually still had a decent completion percentage.

TwistedHusky said:

It would be insane to consider Howell QBOTF. But Back Up Of The Future seems OK. BUOTF isn't as catchy.

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Fairly unlikely but far from insane.

In he first 17 starts Josh Allen threw 18 picks in 550 attempts with a better team than Howell's Commanders (22 picks in 631 attempts).

If Howell improves as much as Allen I think we have our QBOTF.

Spin Doctor said:

You do realize he gave up a third for Charlie Whitehurst once upon a time, right?

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That doesn’t count.

Rat said:

Not at quarterback.

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I did not say QB. I said starter.

Maybe we do trade Geno after all.

Fresno Hawk said:

Maybe we do trade Geno after all.

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I wouldn't put it pass JS if they do..especially as he's had his eye on him since he was drafted.

Howell is inconsistent.
Makes poor decisions.
Falls apart under pressure.
And takes too many sacks and throws more picks than we want.

MAYBE he can become a serviceable starter but some of those are innate traits. You can gain skills and even improve with experience. But you either have tendencies/instincts to succeed or you don't.

He isn't going to be a better than average starter in this league. and some of those weaknesses will be difficult to overcome against better teams. (ie playoff teams)

But he can be a great backup. QBOTF is insane.

What Rookie threw for 3,739 yards, 26 touchdowns, 28 in this first year?

Peyton Manning

Howell will be more than solid imo