Additions, Subtractions, and Cap Space

[Tusc2000]

I can't believe why there's even discussion on Woolen. As if his blown coverage at the end of the 1st niner game wasn't bad enough, he punched his pink slip in the CCG with that horrendous taunting move -- and compounded it by blowing coverage on Nacua the very next play. His locker should have been cleaned out yesterday.

 

[gmor]

I'm starting to think shaheed gets a bag of money from the raiders. Theu need offensive talent and kubiak has been his oc at 2 teams before. If Horton is healthy that's not necessarily a disaster.

I think you are probably right. Horton is awesome, but the need for someone who can slide in and help move the ball will be excalated. The 4th & 5th guys are great ST guys, but I'm not sure about them filling that gap.

 

[onanygivensunday]

my gut feeling at this point:
Re-sign: Shaheed, Walker and either Jobe / Bryant (possibly both)
Let go in FA: Woolen [too many big plays given up and mental lapses to fit this defense], Mafe, possibly one of Jobe/Bryant
Cut: Kupp (I can't imagine we keep him given the contract size)

I agree with most of the above... but I'm guessing Bryant leaves in FA and we will get a 2027 comp pick in return. Draft a young Safety on Day 2 of the draft. Draft Edge on Day 1.

And I believe that Coop will re-structure to a more team-friendly cap hit... like $10M nest year instead of $17M.

 

[Grahamhawker]

I can't believe why there's even discussion on Woolen. As if his blown coverage at the end of the 1st niner game wasn't bad enough, he punched his pink slip in the CCG with that horrendous taunting move -- and compounded it by blowing coverage on Nacua the very next play. His locker should have been cleaned out yesterday.

He didn't exactly help his cause during the Super Bowl either. There's been thoughts expressed on how lackadaisical he looked on the back-to-back long completions and TD to Hollins.

 

[Ozzy]

I'm actually starting to lean away from Rashid Shaheed being a likely re-sign. He got us two wins in the regular season, one of them through his ST role, so maybe. But I realized the other day that he's drawing 3 targets a game, less than half of what he got in NO. I don't know if SEA wants to shell out for that. Plus, Kubiak, the guy who's familiar with him, is leaving for Oakland. I mean, maybe. We've got the cap space and Kupp is old.

I do think we'll want a good splash in the secondary. But the mega contract coming for JSN is going to claim a lot in their thinking.

I would love to have him back but I'm sort of in the same boat. I think he's probably gone unless he agrees to sign for cheap.

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

I can't believe why there's even discussion on Woolen. As if his blown coverage at the end of the 1st niner game wasn't bad enough, he punched his pink slip in the CCG with that horrendous taunting move -- and compounded it by blowing coverage on Nacua the very next play. His locker should have been cleaned out yesterday.

Most media consensus seems to be we can't afford to really keep him or Mafe. There's not a ton of great CB's in the draft or free agency this year so he is going to get paid big by someone.

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

See this is also what I'm thinking too.

Why give up those picks if you're just going to let him walk?

He's getting re-signed.

There is no doubt in my mind.

To win a super bowl...which he/we did.

You saw the Rams traded for everyone and anyone short term to win just one ring.

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

I agree it need to be carefully managed but JS was in a similar position in 2014, we had a young SB winning team and were short of draft capital (no 3rd Rounder as we traded it for Harvin). What he did then was a lot of trading down to get more draft picks and I could see him doing that again.

We made an absolute mess of that draft though by being too cute with moving down. The only 2 sort of picks in that draft that weren't complete busts was Paul Richardson who couldn't stay healthy and Justin Britt who struggled for his first couple of years. While we don't have a ton of picks but we dont have a huge amount of holes which makes me think go for BPA.

 

[bileever]

I believe that Shaheed's raw speed over the top helped to open up the run game though, we went from stacked boxes to being able to run pretty much at will - while I am sure he's not the only reason, our entire rushing attack improvement coincided EXACTLY with Shaheed joining the team (Arizona game) - we went from averaging c. 100 YPG in the first 8 games of season to c.140 the final 9 (and around 130 in playoffs). One player doesn't make all the difference but MacDonald and Kubiak both spoke about Shaheed helping to open things up so it's not negligible.

As a career 500-700 yards per season guy he shouldn't break the bank - I feel like $7-9 APY is not unreasonable for either party

Here's why I think re-signing Shaheed for a reasonable amount is possible: First, teams with cap space who are rebuilding don't tend to prioritize special teams--they're still trying to build with the essentials like QB and O-line. Second, there are a lot of free agent wide receivers available who will be targeted ahead of Shaheed, like George Pickens or Romeo Doubs or Alec Pierce. Shaheed's not a number 1 WR, and there are fewer teams willing to spend upwards of $10 million on a number 2 (or a number 3) receiver. Third, this is a very deep class for wide receivers in the draft this year, with 9 or 10 WRs projected to go in the first two rounds. A team looking for a receiver might just look to the draft. Fourth, half the teams this year have salary cap problems, so there's a limited number of teams who can afford to spend on a player like Shaheed.

 

[chris98251]

I am not as worried as many of you appear to be, Mac and John seem to have the knack of finding guys that don't get the accolades of the Mediots and so called experts and then once in a Seahawks Uniform become stars. Espcially in our secondary. The want to and heart is a major factor in what we see, Jobe, Bryant, Pritchard, Okada all guys that kind of came in under the radar yet are now going to be guys other teams will put on a high level to steal from us.

My bigger issue is getting more depth for our Dline, that I think will be the hardest to fill since it is probably our oldest position group.

 

[Followthelegion]

To slightly amend my post, when I say "Cut" Coop, the options to me are either a very significant restructure or a retirement rather than a formal "cut". I'm very much expecting the latter.

 

[Natethegreat]

Here's why I think re-signing Shaheed for a reasonable amount is possible: First, teams with cap space who are rebuilding don't tend to prioritize special teams--they're still trying to build with the essentials like QB and O-line. Second, there are a lot of free agent wide receivers available who will be targeted ahead of Shaheed, like George Pickens or Romeo Doubs or Alec Pierce. Shaheed's not a number 1 WR, and there are fewer teams willing to spend upwards of $10 million on a number 2 (or a number 3) receiver. Third, this is a very deep class for wide receivers in the draft this year, with 9 or 10 WRs projected to go in the first two rounds. A team looking for a receiver might just look to the draft. Fourth, half the teams this year have salary cap problems, so there's a limited number of teams who can afford to spend on a player like Shaheed.

Pickins is being tagged and Pierce is very likely to resign with the Colts.
Doubs I don't know but the WR market is very bare.

 

[Ostatehawk]

Money.

Yup. I'm not sure he is gone - but $$ talks in cases where they don't have a huge contract in place already.

Darnold for instance - his 3 year is worth what - 100M? Would he go elsewhere for 150M? 100M is generational wealth dollars. How much more do you need?

 

[flv2]

I don't understand the desire to spend $9M+ on a RB2 vacancy. If Walker is going to be the RB1 and play 750 snaps then fair enough. What is his projected role?

 

[LeveeBreak]

I am not as worried as many of you appear to be, Mac and John seem to have the knack of finding guys that don't get the accolades of the Mediots and so called experts and then once in a Seahawks Uniform become stars. Espcially in our secondary. The want to and heart is a major factor in what we see, Jobe, Bryant, Pritchard, Okada all guys that kind of came in under the radar yet are now going to be guys other teams will put on a high level to steal from us.

My bigger issue is getting more depth for our Dline, that I think will be the hardest to fill since it is probably our oldest position group.

I assume Mills is a big part of that plan. Hopefully Big Cat doesn't retire and Reed will only cost $7.5 against the cap next year. I'm not seeing urgency in 2026, but 2027 we likely become thin.

 

[Jegpeg]

We made an absolute mess of that draft though by being too cute with moving down. The only 2 sort of picks in that draft that weren't complete busts was Paul Richardson who couldn't stay healthy and Justin Britt who struggled for his first couple of years. While we don't have a ton of picks but we dont have a huge amount of holes which makes me think go for BPA.

We made a mess of that draft but I don't know if it was because we moved down.

• We picked Richardson at 45, the next WR of the board (at 53) was Devente Adams!
• We picked Britt at 64, the next OT of the board (66) was Morgan Moses who started 192 games up to and including last Sunday.

That draft would have been considered brilliant if we got Adams and Moses, even if all the others picks were busts.

 

[AnimeAmore]

Don't judge a 'deep threat' WR by stats. Without that threat you'd have something similar to the Patriots offense. If you can't run receivers deep the opponents can press close to the LOS and shut everything down. Horton might be able to do the job but he's still unproven at this point. Smith-Njigba and 4 possession receivers isn't going to cut it.

Didn't our passing game take a step back after Shahid joined the team, though?

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

I don't understand the desire to spend $9M+ on a RB2 vacancy. If Walker is going to be the RB1 and play 750 snaps then fair enough. What is his projected role?

I think their hand is forced with Charbonnet's injury. Guessing he misses some time next year too.

I'd like to see Kenny McIntosh. He had a good camp and people were high on him before the acl.

 

[gmor]

Most media consensus seems to be we can't afford to really keep him or Mafe. There's not a ton of great CB's in the draft or free agency this year so he is going to get paid big by someone.

Mafe is a top priority signing IMO.

 

[gmor]

I don't understand the desire to spend $9M+ on a RB2 vacancy. If Walker is going to be the RB1 and play 750 snaps then fair enough. What is his projected role?

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