Sam

[uscfan]

The Vikings offered him a one year deal. The Seahawks offered a 3 year deal. They are not comparable. Yes, I know the Seahawks contract has an out after two years. But that's still different than a one year deal while they groom his replacement.

This.

If the Vikings brass really wanted Sam, they could have simply franchise tagged him (forcing him to be their one-year solution).

Both Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones knew that JJ Mc9 was the Vikings' heir apparent and that there wouldn't be fair competition against him (especially past year one). So they both chose to move on to greener pastures.

 

[glenwo2]

Of course I watched it. He did, you know as well as I do everyone was praying he would do what he did and not throw a bunch of picks, or turn it over other ways.

He did what was expected. Like I said, he made the plays and didn't turn it over. You have a problem with that TFB, get over it.

You must've had a very high-opinion of Sam Darnold going into this game if you EXPECTED him to Outduel the Best QB in the League.

I'm impressed. Didn't know you were a big fan.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Of course I watched it. He did, you know as well as I do everyone was praying he would do what he did and not throw a bunch of picks, or turn it over other ways.

He did what was expected. Like I said, he made the plays and didn't turn it over. You have a problem with that TFB, get over it.

The World champion of moving the goal post. You spent weeks basically telling us he sucks and/or hasn't done anything yet.
Now you're saying he did what was expected. As usual, you've covered all the bases.
Some of us know EXACTLY what you were doing and what YOU were expecting. You were WAITING for him to fail. As USUAL, blatant refusal to just admit dude is playing lights out, smart football and is CLEARLY in the top 10, if not top 5.

STILL waiting for you to actually say he's a good QB. STILL waiting for you to admit that he IS a clutch QB who can win big playoff games. STILL waiting for you to say 3 words: I WAS WRONG.

But you won't. Par for the course. I can't imagine anyone would take you seriously.

 

[Ozzy]

The Vikings offered him a one year deal. The Seahawks offered a 3 year deal. They are not comparable. Yes, I know the Seahawks contract has an out after two years. But that's still different than a one year deal while they groom his replacement.

Yeah people used a similar argument in regard to Geno saying the team wanted him back but that's not the case. It was obvious they already knew the minimum Geno's camp would take and offered well below that knowing it was never going to happen. It's all surfacy stuff to save face and play the game. John couldn't wait to move on from Geno because he knew the moment they're in now wasn't going to happen unless they took a swing and did something different. Minnesota knew a 1 year deal with a 1st round QB in camp wasn't going to get Darnold either but they can tell their fans they tried and people buy it. This is a business and they're talking to agents all year.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

And we don't sniff a SB w/Geno. Shoot, maybe not even a playoff birth.

 

[GemCity]

My SuperBowl party shirt

 

[glenwo2]

My SuperBowl party shirt

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AI is scary as hell.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

It's not Ai, they're selling these.

 

[glenwo2]

It's not Ai, they're selling these.

Wait. This is real?

Sam actually gave the finger to the camera while drinking a beer and smoking a cig while still wearing his jersey?

Really?


(Btw, that's the part where I said was AI)

 

[Natethegreat]

Highly doubt that is a real picture. Just because it's on a shirt doesn't mean someone didn't generate it off ai.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Come on guys, do you not get that I'm joking? Damn

 

[glenwo2]

You should've put down the

/sarcasm

then.

 

[Torc]

Of course I watched it. He did, you know as well as I do everyone was praying he would do what he did and not throw a bunch of picks, or turn it over other ways.

He did what was expected. Like I said, he made the plays and didn't turn it over. You have a problem with that TFB, get over it.

So the Hawks get the ball after the Rams turn it over on downs, 4 minutes and something left. Ball sitting around the Seahawks 10 yard line. A game manager hands it off and prays K9 can get a couple of first downs....and he probably doesn't because the Rams are expecting it. A team that is VERY confident in their QB calls pass plays to actually move the ball out of their own end zone.

Which one did the Seahawks do? Whatever the idiots in the media say, our team has a ton of faith in Darnold - they put their Super Bowl aspirations on his shoulders at a critical moment in the game.

 

[Natethegreat]

Arguing with Biscanbay12 will get you nowhere. He just changes his position to another one and moves the argument around till you've spun yourself in circles.

Obviously Darnold has won and in big games of immense importance. To top it off he willed them to victory in this last one.
He hasn't folded, he came through when asked. Made huge game winning plays. Nothing else he can do.
Biscanbay12 will still be arguing he was right if we win the whole thing.

If we lose he will be back telling us he was right all along and ignore all that Darnold did to get us here.
I guarantee it.

 

[Ad Hawk]

Probably so, Nate.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Arguing with Biscanbay12 will get you nowhere. He just changes his position to another one and moves the argument around till you've spun yourself in circles.

Obviously Darnold has won and in big games of immense importance. To top it off he willed them to victory in this last one.
He hasn't folded, he came through when asked. Made huge game winning plays. Nothing else he can do.
Biscanbay12 will still be arguing he was right if we win the whole thing.

If we lose he will be back telling us he was right all along and ignore all that Darnold did to get us here.
I guarantee it.

Facts. Biscuit Boy will say "So he won, can he win 2?"
Or the usual go to "He only won because of the defense"

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I'll pitch in to buy one of these shirts for Biscuit boy. We can even put an * on it, since he will downplay Sam hoisting the Lombardi.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Or.........a Patriots shirt with "Biscuit Boy" on the back.

 

[keasley45]

Yeah people used a similar argument in regard to Geno saying the team wanted him back but that's not the case. It was obvious they already knew the minimum Geno's camp would take and offered well below that knowing it was never going to happen. It's all surfacy stuff to save face and play the game. John couldn't wait to move on from Geno because he knew the moment they're in now wasn't going to happen unless they took a swing and did something different. Minnesota knew a 1 year deal with a 1st round QB in camp wasn't going to get Darnold either but they can tell their fans they tried and people buy it. This is a business and they're talking to agents all year.

You are contradicting virtually everything that's been said regarding that situation. Even Hasselbeck today, who knows the goings-on inside the Hawks said it was Geno that screwed up the deal and miscalculated his future prospects rather than the FO wanting him gone.

Here is the simple fact. John and Mike prefer a guy at QB who can do what is necessary to win and don't NEED the QB (nor for financial reasons want the QB) to be a high end thrower of the ball who would look to be paid top dollar.

Geno saw himself as someone who was on the path to be a higher dollar guy. That calculation didn't fit John's formula nor Mike's , 12 as 1 philosophy. When that was made plain, Geno asked to be traded.

Being the savvy GM that he is, he targeted the guy that DID fit the formula in Sam and the move has paid dividends.

Geno's immaturity and lack of judgement (two things that have changed him his entire NFL career) did him in here. And that flaw no doubt made it easier to grant his wishes, given how entirely selfless the culture is in this team.

This isn't new with John. At both contract extensions with Russ, Pete was the one who lobbied for Russ and made it happen. It came out later that John was far less enthusiastic about paying Russ where he was paid and when he could, was looking for backup plans to move on a good while before he was actually traded.

It has turned out that Sam has worked out perfectly as a pivot from where they were with Geno. To try to spin it as though they were looking for someone 'better' than the guy they had from a football / QB play perspective... the evidence clearly contradicts that.

 

[CostaRicaHawk]

My SuperBowl party shirt

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Not AI, Just Stan Darnold!!!!