Sam Darnold Abbreviated All 22

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I'm going through each Sam Darnold play but instead of reviewing in text I'm going to only provide highlights.

Q1 2:21 | SEA 0 ARZ 3 | 2nd & 2 ARI 27 | INC -- this is the first throw where Sam doesn't go to the designed pass catcher. Nothing negative here, just surprised how little they are asking of him up until this point.

Q1 2:16 | SEA 0 ARZ 3 | 3rd & 2 ARI 27 | Kupp for 11 -- My highlight here is Sam does NOT pat the ball before throwing. Unlike some of the designed routes, this was just Sam's first read. Kupp finds a small space in the zone and Sam gets it there JUST in time. So very glad to see him not pat the ball here or it could have been easily deflected.

Q1 1:38 | SEA 0 ARZ 3 | 1st and 10 ARI 16 | Barner TD -- Sam's third read into man defense. Looks over to JSN who is blanketed by 3 defenders, moves to the left side where he sees Kupp covered well with safety help, then sees Barner scooting out with his defender trailing behind. Just a little throw and catch. Oline did a good job too and I think that is mostly because Bradford had no one to block.

Q2 8:20 | SEA 7 ARZ 3 | 1st and 10 ARI 49 | INC to Horton -- Once again Sam gets some good time in the pocket thanks to Bradford having to block nobody and Sam airs out it out deep to Horton who's one on one. This was a beautiful ball to the spot where the corner could only just throw up his hands. Too bad Horton can't secure it.

Q2 3:45 | SEA 7 ARZ 3 | 1st and 10 SEA 10 | Arroyo for 32 -- the pocket collapses because a linebacker comes storming in and Charbs stands him up allowing enough room for Darnold to escape. Arroyo is basically alone down the sideline and Sam waits for the following linebacker to make a move. Initially I thought it was an underthrow, but after about a dozen rewatches I think Sam sees the numbers on the linebacker, knows hes cooked on any comebacker, know Arroyo isn't running away from him and throws it short so Arroyo can come back to the ball and get an easy catch. Shout out to Charbs, Darnold, and Arroyo.

Q2 1:23 | SEA 7 ARZ 3 | 2nd and 8 ARZ 17 | INC to Arroyo, DEF PI in the endzone -- this ended up being a great throw but I hate it. Sam is throwing falling backwards with a defender in his face. If Baker ever turns around and finds the ball, he could've picked it. Instead he freaks out and starts tackling Arroyo long before the ball gets there. Good result, really bad decision.

Q3 11:05 | SEA 14 ARZ 3 | 1st and 10 ARI 34 | Sack -5 -- Anthony Bradford is a ******* menace. Instead of covering a guy, he assists with the triple team letting the linemen run free to Sam.

Q4 4:58 | SEA 20 ARZ 13 | 3rd and 6 SEA 26 | JSN for 36 -- JSN catches the defense crashing on the short routes and has man on a go and Darnold sends a perfect ball.

Q4 0:23 | SEA 20 ARZ 20 | 2nd and 10 SEA 40 | JSN for 22 -- I don't understand why teams are so insistent on leaving JSN 1 on 1 in critical situations. Darnold lofts it up short so JSN can come back to the ball while the defender is off-balance.


This game felt very "game manager" play style. When Darnold was asked to go through reads he did well, but it was generally limited. Some of the accuracy wasn't crisp. I think what really separates an elite passer from a mid-tier one is just a quarter second better anticipation and accuracy. The good thing is Darnold has not had a problem throwing high or low, it's usually behind.

I'd genuinely like to see the Hawks increase their dependance on Darnold, allow him to push the ball downfield and not handcuff him so much to quick shorter passes. He's shown a solid understanding of how to throw balls deep/mid and put it in places where we have the highest chance of completing.

At the end of the day though, it's a win.

Darnold B+.
 

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Sorry to interrupt your analysis. I need to live stream as I watch it. But obviously you've done a tremendous job with your observations.
 

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Q2 1:23 | SEA 7 ARZ 3 | 2nd and 8 ARZ 17 | INC to Arroyo, DEF PI in the endzone -- this ended up being a great throw but I hate it. Sam is throwing falling backwards with a defender in his face. If Baker ever turns around and finds the ball, he could've picked it. Instead he freaks out and starts tackling Arroyo long before the ball gets there. Good result, really bad decision.
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I don't know if he would've picked it. This angle is from the ALL-22 endzone camera and when Sam threw it, the ball was drifting to the far right-hand side.

From the sideline view, I agree that it looked like the Defender could've turned his head and got in front but in this angle, the ball was not coming at him in a straight line for him to get in front of Arroyo.

That ball was going to where only Arroyo could get it.

Was this a good decision by Darnold to throw it? Probably not as far as "the process" goes but he CAN make the throw and have it be accurate regardless.

That ball was (judging from the All-22 Endzone camera) in no danger of even being deflected, let alone picked.

That Defender was panicking because that was 6-points right there if he didn't commit DPI on Arroyo.

You, as well as I, saw the replay where the ball basically hit Arroyo's arms and hands (and had the Cards defender not pull down Arroyo's left arm, he catches that easily).


EDIT : Apparently, you're blind. And are doubling down on being blind if you couldn't see that the ball was nowhere near any danger of even being deflected. Sometimes you just need to take the "L", Sonic. You're not infallible.
 

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I don't know if he would've picked it. This angle is from the ALL-22 endzone camera and when Sam threw it, the ball was drifting to the far right-hand side.

From the sideline view, I agree that it looked like the Defender could've turned his head and got in front but in this angle, the ball was not coming at him in a straight line for him to get in front of Arroyo.

That ball was going to where only Arroyo could get it.


I think we need to recognize that Sam can pass the ball accurately even when it looks like he's off-balance with a defender in his face.

I think you need to rewatch it and be more critical. Baker took a B-line to Arrojo and never once looked for the ball (he must've assumed it was a harder thrown ball).

Arroyo is not fast and Baker is. At this point had Baker looked up, he could've caught the ball at the goal line as he was in better position for it. He didn't look up and started tackling Arroyo.

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Arroyo is actually coming back to the ball here.
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I'll diagram what he easily could've done if he turned his head at any point. It's a shorter line, he's faster than Arroyo.
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This was pure luck that Baker made a terrible play on it.

I feel like I've given Darnold plenty of credit for his accuracy and even suggested in this post that the offense rely MORE on him.
 

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okay man. It was all "Luck".

I'm not going to sit here and argue with you about that.

Have a good day.

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You were using the SIDELINE View which I acknowledged that it did make it look like he could've gotten in front to pick it off. But the Endzone camera showed the ball was nowhere close to being picked or deflected.

It was a bad throw and your assessment was uncritical.

It was a good throw (questionable, at best, decision) and would've been six had it connected.

And I couldn't care less what you think of my assessment.

I saw what I saw and that's what I saw. :mad:
 

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So I calmed down a bit and went back and looked at the replay of the play to try and see if I was in the wrong here and if you(Sonic) had a point.

Looking at it over and over again from both camera angles (it pays to have an NFL+ subscription, btw)......sorry, but you're out to lunch on this.

That pass (while not the pass I would attempt in hindsight, considering he did have Kupp there having a step on his man in the open field for a nice gain) was a good off-balance ACCURATE throw that not many QBs can make or even do.

Funny thing is that I was actually in agreement with you that it was not a smart decision to throw the ball there, Sonic.

In fact, the proper process would've been to just check it down or throw it to Kupp who he could've gotten there.


My point of contention with you is that the ball was in no danger of being deflected/intercepted which you vehemently disagreed with.

Not going to convince you nor are you going to convince me. Whatever, man.


I still enjoy your All-22 observations regardless and look forward for the next one (hopefully after another big win over the Bucs)...

#GO HAWKS!
 
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