Analysis of Seahawks stopping Rams on 4th down

bileever

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Bill Barnwell of ESPN has an interesting tidbit on the 4th down stop by the Seahawks defense with 4:59 to go in the game. The key was that the Seahawks decided to double Kyren Williams, who turned out to be Stafford's primary target on the play. The interesting thing is that McVay claims that what screwed them up was the Seahawks' "busted coverage"--that the Seahawks had two guys on Williams but there was no way they could have meant to double him:

"Last time, McVay blamed himself. This time, after the Rams were stopped on fourth-and-4 from the 6-yard line with 4:59 to go, he had a more curious culprit. I'm not sure I've ever heard a coach blame the other team busting a coverage for stopping their fourth-down play, but that's exactly what McVay did after the game: 'They kinda lucked into having two guys peel on Kyren right there. I know that can't be part of their design. So it was a fortuitous bust by them'."

Barnwell isn't so sure. He thinks that Macdonald might have seen it coming and chose to double Williams.

"McVay has grown fond of throwing the ball to Williams on third and fourth downs this season on choice routes, where Williams has a lot of open space and the ability to break inside or outside depending on the leverage of the coverage. It's a natural place to go with the football when we consider how much attention teams are putting on Nacua and Davante Adams in key spots. Williams is never getting double-covered in those situations, and if the Rams create space for him with their route distribution, it's almost impossible for the defender to be right.

On this play, Williams released upfield and headed toward the end zone. The end man on the line was safety Julian Love, who looked like he was beat quickly by Williams while trying to drop into coverage, but edge rusher DeMarcus Lawrence also dropped off and ran with Williams, taking away the quick throwing lane for Stafford, who had to work elsewhere. The veteran eventually forced a throw to Terrance Ferguson against tight coverage from Devon Witherspoon, with the pass falling incomplete. Fortuitous coverage bust? Or did Mike Macdonald recognize McVay's tendency of creating space for Williams in key spots and double the right guy at the right time?"


 

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It a politely looked like send everyone look and then pull off and bring back guys and create coverage

Stafford beat us when we sent people and didn't have enough coverage so give him time but cover everyone was beautifully done
 

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Rams had a great game plan. This play didn’t go well for them. It would be nice to get a Seahawk’s perspective on the play call.
 

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Fortuitous bust, really?

Did they really "luck into it" McVay, or did you get outschemed by Macdonald?




I think he was outschemed and was a little butt hurt after the game.
 

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Knowing Macdonald, he would steer any conversation about this away from his strategy. We may never know if it was on purpose.....but I tend to think it was. If someone had ended up uncovered, you could say it was a blown coverage....but that didn't happen.

Just one more move in the chess match between McVay and Macdonald.
 

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What in the flying fu** is Sean even talking about.

Looked totally 100% intentional to me. He got out schemed on the play.
 

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DLaw dropped back into coverage intentionally it looked like to me.
 

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Fortuitous bust, really?

Did they really "luck into it" McVay, or did you get outschemed by Macdonald?




I think he was outschemed and was a little butt hurt after the game.


It was clearly a 2 edge drop.

The only thing that is questionable or I can think of is Julian Love. It looked like he wanted to rush because he thought Kyren was staying in to block. The moment the RB started to run a route, Love peeled off. It could have been a completely free-lance thing from Love or it was part of the defensive play rule.

I can see where McVay is coming from because normally a defense just doesn't rush 3 dudes. It's not a blitz, it's a simulated pressure. The way Love reacted sort looked like he was part of the rushing attack.

We don't know until the players or coaches say so. Either way, the Seahawks outplayed them on that play. I don't think it was luck but Love clearly saw something and acted accordingly. He knew where the ball was mostly likely going if he didn't peel off. Good heady play in my opinion from Love. He took away the 1-1 of Williams vs. Lawrence.
 
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It was clearly a 2 edge drop.

The only thing that is questionable or I can think of is Julian Love. It looked like he wanted to rush because he thought Kyren was staying in to block. The moment the RB started to run a route, Love peeled off. It could have been a completely free-lance thing from Love or it was part of the defensive play rule.

I can see where McVay is coming from because normally a defense just doesn't rush 3 dudes. It's not a blitz, it's a simulated pressure. The way Love reacted sort looked like he was part of the rushing attack.

We don't know until the players or coaches say so. Either way, the Seahawks outplayed them on that play. I don't think it was luck but Love clearly saw something and acted accordingly. He knew where the ball was mostly likely going if he didn't peel off. Good heady play in my opinion from Love. He took away the 1-1 of Williams vs. Lawrence.
That's what happened. McVay and Stafford thought we were sending the house and Stafford was licking his chops to get it to Williams. MM knew on film Williams would be the primary here in that situation.

They were outplayed and outschemed.

Good thing we have a smart defense. It wasn't luck.
 

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He was complaining about the 2 PT conversion from the previous game too... if only he had coached Verse to go for the ball there instead of assuming dead ball...

Sometimes just take the L McVay.
 
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