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From what I've seen it seems as if they should be using the TEs a whole lot more.
 

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Not only was I at the game today - I sat on the 39 yard line - exactly where Sam Darnold snuck it on 4th and 1 and he CLEARLY fell over the line for a first down only to have a BS Wimbledon “Virtual Measurement” come up on a scoreboard and tell me what my own eyes saw was a lie and he was a full 1.5 yards short of the spot. What a crock of $hite!

I am totally against this virtual spot garbage going forward.

So many wrong calls today in Carolina’s favor. We beat the Panthers AND the Zebras today.
 

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We lost both Shaheed and Cody White, everyone please remember this. We have not had our left tackle for two games. Kubiaked a little early on. We need two out of three of Shaheed, Cross, Horton to do anything in the playoffs.
I think Horton has been missed more than we thought he would. Since he’s been down the offense has be shitty
 

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Horton and Arroyo brought the ability to stretch the field. Some thing i though Shaheed would do.
 

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Officiating in the league seems at an all time low. Don't just watch this game.

Its everywhere. You keep a game close and you are literally enabling 1 or 2 bad calls in a game to be the reason you lost it.


Keeping a game close is a stupid gameplan in the playoffs.
The offense did not pull its weight today. That needs to be fixed.

We do that next week against the 49ers and we are looking at an L.

Fortunately for us, the Niners defense will give our offense plenty of opportunities to finally get it going again with how bad they are right now. lol
 

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I have never witnessed a Hawks team do this well (schedule wise) while having so many glaring weaknesses and roster holes. Given the current League landscape of having essentially a "down year" of no clear cut dominant teams, anyone who makes it into the tournament can win it. Going to be hard to predict and really kind of fun to watch.
Where are the holes and weaknesses?
 

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The winning formula for this team, is to wade through Kubiaks garbage game plan, and Darnolds 1 to 2 first half turnovers. Weather that Storm riding the defense, and hang on keeping the game close.

Go into halftime with all 3 timeouts, make the necessary offensive adjustments, and play winning football to close it out for the victory. Love it. Go Hawks.
Did you notice last game that they tried first three plays to get the ball to JSN instead of figuring out at halftime how they are defending him? That’s progress.
 
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I'd make the argument that overall, offense, defense, special teams, we have the fewest weaknesses of the NFC teams. I think that's been the very strength of our team this year. The overall team stats pretty much bear this out. For instance, we're second in points scored in the league, and second in fewest points allowed in the league. Our special teams play is near the very top of the league. There may be teams with better facets of what makes up a good offense, or defense, or special teams units. But overall, I believe our wins are coming from the very idea that, collectively speaking, we have the fewest weaknesses of our competitors in the NFC.
 
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Where are the holes and weaknesses?
Really?
  • Weak Center.
  • Turnstyle Right Guard.
  • Entire offensive line giving up too much pressure on Sam.
  • Same offensive line not run blocking consistently well.
  • Inconsistent run game, due primarily to O-Line, but Walker has some blame here.
  • Sam Darnold throwing 14 interceptions this season, and it's not over yet.
  • Sam Darnold not making particularly good decisions in big games and/or under duress. As in ever in his career.
  • No dominant edge rusher.
  • Inconsistent offensive game planning from Kubiak, especially in the first half. Probably has something to do with 1-5 above, to be fair to Klint.
They have 13 wins in spite of all this, which is impressive. But just because we're one win away from the #1 seed doesn't mean there aren't some serious flaws. We get into the divisional round and the NFCCG and all of these weaknesses will be exploited. Hell, the 49er game alone on Saturday may do that.

And, yes, they are glaring. But I don't wear rose colored glasses.
 
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Really?
  • Weak Center.
  • Turnstyle Right Guard.
  • Entire offensive line giving up too much pressure on Sam.
  • Same offensive line not run blocking consistently well.
  • Inconsistent run game, due primarily to O-Line, but Walker has some blame here.
  • Sam Darnold throwing 14 interceptions this season, and it's not over yet.
  • Sam Darnold not making particularly good decisions in big games and/or under duress. As in ever in his career.
  • No dominant edge rusher.
  • Inconsistent offensive game planning from Kubiak, especially in the first half. Probably has something to do with 1-5 above, to be fair to Klint.
They have 13 wins in spite of all this, which is impressive. But just because we're one win away from the #1 seed doesn't mean there aren't some serious flaws. We get into the divisional round and the NFCCG and all of these weaknesses will be exploited. Hell, the 49er game alone on Saturday may do that alone.

And, yes, they are glaring. But I don't wear rose colored glasses.
and yet they are the number 2 scoring offense in the NFL that averages 29.4 pts per game and has 50 TD's.
 

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Really?
  • Weak Center.
  • Turnstyle Right Guard.
  • Entire offensive line giving up too much pressure on Sam.
  • Same offensive line not run blocking consistently well.
  • Inconsistent run game, due primarily to O-Line, but Walker has some blame here.
  • Sam Darnold throwing 14 interceptions this season, and it's not over yet.
  • Sam Darnold not making particularly good decisions in big games and/or under duress. As in ever in his career.
  • No dominant edge rusher.
  • Inconsistent offensive game planning from Kubiak, especially in the first half. Probably has something to do with 1-5 above, to be fair to Klint.
They have 13 wins in spite of all this, which is impressive. But just because we're one win away from the #1 seed doesn't mean there aren't some serious flaws. We get into the divisional round and the NFCCG and all of these weaknesses will be exploited. Hell, the 49er game alone on Saturday may do that alone.

And, yes, they are glaring. But I don't wear rose colored glasses.
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Seems a bit nitpicky when you average 30pts a game.

Not a fan of Kubiak, if you are, great.

But for anyone to say our first half offense hasnt been stagnant in the first half of games the majority of the second half of the season, and that that is not a potential issue moving forward is not being realistic.

I'm Not saying the offense doesn't eventually come around and put up points, just saying they haven't been putting up points in the first half since the bye. Why? Because Kubiak comes in with sh*t game plans, cant ever seem to adjust on the fly, and then has sequences of play calls that leave people scratching their heads.

Fortunately they have been able to make the necessary adjustments at halftime.

How long can they sustain success like that. Time will tell.
 

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Not a fan of Kubiak, if you are, great.

But for anyone to say our first half offense hasnt been stagnant in the first half of games the majority of the second half of the season, and that that is not a potential issue moving forward is not being realistic.

I'm Not saying the offense doesn't eventually come around and put up points, just saying they haven't been putting up points in the first half since the bye. Why? Because Kubiak comes in with sh*t game plans, cant ever seem to adjust on the fly, and then has sequences of play calls that leave people scratching their heads.

Fortunately they have been able to make the necessary adjustments at halftime.

How long can they sustain success like that. Time will tell.
I would rather he make adjustments by the end of the 1st quarter myself.

But it's been working thus far.

I think the Defense will be able to hold down Dork Puny (Purdy's new name) long enough for our offense to get in gear.
 
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I would rather he make adjustments by the end of the 1st quarter myself.

But it's been working thus far.

I think the Defense will be able to hold down Dork Puny (Purdy's new name) long enough for our offense to get in gear.
Agreed.
 

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Really?
  • Weak Center.
  • Turnstyle Right Guard.
  • Entire offensive line giving up too much pressure on Sam.
  • Same offensive line not run blocking consistently well.
  • Inconsistent run game, due primarily to O-Line, but Walker has some blame here.
  • Sam Darnold throwing 14 interceptions this season, and it's not over yet.
  • Sam Darnold not making particularly good decisions in big games and/or under duress. As in ever in his career.
  • No dominant edge rusher.
  • Inconsistent offensive game planning from Kubiak, especially in the first half. Probably has something to do with 1-5 above, to be fair to Klint.
They have 13 wins in spite of all this, which is impressive. But just because we're one win away from the #1 seed doesn't mean there aren't some serious flaws. We get into the divisional round and the NFCCG and all of these weaknesses will be exploited. Hell, the 49er game alone on Saturday may do that.

And, yes, they are glaring. But I don't wear rose colored glasses.

I guess I don't see the o line as the weakness you do. There are maybe 5 lines in the entire league that have great play at every spot. We have great play at LT, RT LG most of the time. We have good play at Center. We have average (talking now, not at the start of the season) play at RG.

I think the o line issues are exacerbated by the fact our OC is trying to call a passing game that caters to our QBs strength - longer developing routes from mid range, and deeper. It was pretty well know when Sam got here that the short game was not his forte. I think Kubiak stuck a bit too long to the original script and didn't start to really push the hard nosed run game MM prefers until recently, nor did he find a good way to exercise Sam's short game and give him an expanded playbook to work from.

Sure, Sam's limitations are a hinderence, but the play design and insistance on pushing the ball hasn't helped. Nor has Sam's stubborn desire to forego short routes for deep balls, which in itself puts undo stress on the line and makes them look worse than they are. Baut as was shown in a couple games, quite a few of Sam's sacks come when he has better than 2.75 seconds to throw and sometimes more than 3. That's not an o line problem.

As far as edge, remember that when we had what was considered 2 of the better edge guys in the league in Cliff and Bennet, the high water mark for sacks for either of them was 10 in a season. Cliffs best was 8.5. we get pressure without flash by design. Containing, compressing pressure is an art that Pete mastered and MM is utilizing to pretty good effect. Nobody ever accused the LOB defenses of lacking a premier Edge.
 

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