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Saleh points out that before Fred Warner there was Navorro Bowman and before that Norton. He points to 2024 seventh rounder Tatum Bethune getting 10 tackles in his first game. The heads of the hydra were cut off with Bosa and Warner, but they are far, far from eliminated.

Their Achilles heel is Christian McCaffrey, through whom the offense currently runs. The Rb2 is a vet that’s worse than Charbonnet. No one else has appeared outside special teams.

Kyle put all his chips into the health of one already overexerted player with no depth behind him. If Kyle drafted Skattebo, we aren’t even having this conversation, but instead, he prioritized extending fellow Cabo Cliquer Jusczcyk to 2027.
 
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No kidding about overextending CMC. With his injury history, his age, and playing the position he does, I can't believe how much Shanahan uses him. I guess he's got no other good choice, but good lord he's rolling the dice with CMC. I know the guy's in insane shape, but he's not the biggest guy, and they run him between the tackles enough. Yeah, the 9ers season is probably hanging by a CMC thread. They would do well to trade for a RB like real soon, a guy like Kamara, or something.
 

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Shanahan is running CMC into the ground no doubt.

I mean the dude was calling quarterback sneaks with Mac Jones on his gimpy leg. You have to wonder if this reckless approach is a part of the reason why they have so many injuries.
 

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It has long been speculated that Kyle Shanahan bears some responsibility for the large number of injuries the 49ers have had since he became head coach. One theory is that his practice methods may be a factor in the injuries:


But there is no proof that the way the 49ers practice is responsible for the number of injuries. In addition, the 49ers have had a large number of ACL tears, which are non-contact injuries, and there seems to be no correlation between practice methods and ACL injuries.

Still, the sheer number of ACL tears that the 49ers have had makes you wonder what's going on. The 49ers had 28 ACL tears over a 10-year stretch, more than any other team. (The Broncos, who are second, had 24, but the Raiders had 9 and the Falcons had 8 over the same stretch.)


On the other hand, Shanahan's game usage of certain players must surely play a factor. It's obvious that CMC gets a lot of touches where other coaches would be more careful. And Shanahan's use of Deebo Samuel at running back almost certainly contributed to his injuries and loss of effectiveness.
 

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It has long been speculated that Kyle Shanahan bears some responsibility for the large number of injuries the 49ers have had since he became head coach. One theory is that his practice methods may be a factor in the injuries:


But there is no proof that the way the 49ers practice is responsible for the number of injuries. In addition, the 49ers have had a large number of ACL tears, which are non-contact injuries, and there seems to be no correlation between practice methods and ACL injuries.

Still, the sheer number of ACL tears that the 49ers have had makes you wonder what's going on. The 49ers had 28 ACL tears over a 10-year stretch, more than any other team. (The Broncos, who are second, had 24, but the Raiders had 9 and the Falcons had 8 over the same stretch.)


On the other hand, Shanahan's game usage of certain players must surely play a factor. It's obvious that CMC gets a lot of touches where other coaches would be more careful. And Shanahan's use of Deebo Samuel at running back almost certainly contributed to his injuries and loss of effectiveness.

Writers have commented for years that Kyle doesn’t put emphasis on stretching in practice. Every hour spent there is one less spent on install.

The biggest problem, though, with Shan is that he’s fallen into his own Cabo Clique sand trap. As long as he has McCaffrey, Kittle, Jusczcyk, Williams, he has demonstrated no desire to accumulate depth below them let alone let them take over? Which could be the difference between 8-9 and a wild card, but he doesn’t care, all that matters is the 2027 contract expiration they all share.

Shanalynch should have told refurbished Robert Saleh that in fact a backup to Christian McCaffrey mattered more in the third because ANY FAN WITH EYES could see how generational Skattebo was in the Peach Bowl. The often wrong Grant Cohn was exactly right in saying skattebo was jusczcyk’s perfect replacement while gearing up to load share with McCaffrey.

Had they done that, I could see them getting to the divisional. As it is, I don’t think so. I think Kyle should skip vacationing with the clique from now on.
 

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^^^I thought of Kamara because he's a decent mimic of CMC from a combo rushing/receiving perspective.
Kamara has already said if they tried to trade him he would just retire
 
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Kamara has already said if they tried to trade him he would just retire
I've heard something along those lines, too, and that may well be a set-in-stone position for him. But then again, I've seen enough players say things, even adamantly so, and then do complete about-faces to not be skeptical free about such things.
 

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Saleh points out that before Fred Warner there was Navorro Bowman and before that Norton. He points to 2024 seventh rounder Tatum Bethune getting 10 tackles in his first game. The heads of the hydra were cut off with Bosa and Warner, but they are far, far from eliminated.

Their Achilles heel is Christian McCaffrey, through whom the offense currently runs. The Rb2 is a vet that’s worse than Charbonnet. No one else has appeared outside special teams.

Kyle put all his chips into the health of one already overexerted player with no depth behind him. If Kyle drafted Skattebo, we aren’t even having this conversation, but instead, he prioritized extending fellow Cabo Cliquer Jusczcyk to 2027.
You seem to be really hung up on Shanahan not taking Skattebo. If you think it would have been such a great move isn't it a good thing for Hawk fans he didn't?
 

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You seem to be really hung up on Shanahan not taking Skattebo. If you think it would have been such a great move isn't it a good thing for Hawk fans he didn't?

Oh, skattebo was my draft crush given that kubiak was coming to town with a fullback friendly offense. He could angrily block guys all day just as he now runs through them.

I would rather have skatt than outz but at least the position is filled and we can use a blocking te there when outz is unavailable. We have not just K9 but Charbs. I’m not wild about the Milroe pick, but us not choosing skatt instead wasn’t essential. If we lost k9, our season would not automatically be over whereas if they lose McCaffrey, it is. It’s a giant miss compounded by the fact this Peach Bowl wonder grew up near sac and wore a McCaffrey jersey to his pro day. Look what they can do with one McCaffrey. Imagine two of them.

You thought ol Pete got too sentimental for his own good? Well, Kyle punted away his job security so that he didn’t have to lose Juice in free agency. The two days Juice tested it were full of Instagram melancholy until miraculously football Santa resigned juice to the 2027 end date Kittle and McCaffrey have.

Call it Schadenfreude. Call it synthesizing one’s local media. I call it more fun to outline exactly how they suck.
 

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Oh, skattebo was my draft crush given that kubiak was coming to town with a fullback friendly offense. He could angrily block guys all day just as he now runs through them.

I would rather have skatt than outz but at least the position is filled and we can use a blocking te there when outz is unavailable. We have not just K9 but Charbs. I’m not wild about the Milroe pick, but us not choosing skatt instead wasn’t essential. If we lost k9, our season would not automatically be over whereas if they lose McCaffrey, it is. It’s a giant miss compounded by the fact this Peach Bowl wonder grew up near sac and wore a McCaffrey jersey to his pro day. Look what they can do with one McCaffrey. Imagine two of them.

You thought ol Pete got too sentimental for his own good? Well, Kyle punted away his job security so that he didn’t have to lose Juice in free agency. The two days Juice tested it were full of Instagram melancholy until miraculously football Santa resigned juice to the 2027 end date Kittle and McCaffrey have.

Call it Schadenfreude. Call it synthesizing one’s local media. I call it more fun to outline exactly how they suck.
So much for Skattebo. Bad looking injury
 

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Looked like his sock was holding his leg together. It was bad.
 

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Cards pulling up the rear probably wish they had never left St Louis, they most likely would have won several Division races by now. They are the best last place team in the NFL I think at the moment, surely has to be frusterating for that organzation.
That was so long ago I was like WHAT??? St. LOUIS?? Wow, 1987, I did not know the football cardinals were also in St. Louis. So the city had two sports teams with the same name… that must of been confusing
 

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