Poll: How will our offense do this year?

[seabowl]

With the changes at coordinator, and quarterback/wide receiver positions, the offense is going to be a wildcard as to how it performs. Just curious what everyone thinks is going to happen this year with the offense.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I think it's going to be like last year's defense. Start out a little slow and get a hell of a lot better as the year goes on. I love the way coach Mike is putting this team together. He clearly knows what he wants, what he is, and I think he learned a hell of a lot that first season.
If you're not all in, he'll send you packing. That's one thing I won't miss about Pete, WAY too loyal to certain players.

 

[gmor]

With the changes at coordinator, and quarterback/wide receiver positions, the offense is going to be a wildcard as to how it performs. Just curious what everyone thinks is going to happen this year with the offense.

I'm thinking that they will start slowly and get more aggressive as the season goes on.

 

[bileever]

I asked AI if Klint Kubiak is the dumbest Kubiak, and it said that although the matter was debatable, based on the evidence available, Klint most likely is the dumbest Kubiak.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Nah, first time the team doesn't put up a 30 spot, there will be plenty of people calling for Kubiak to be fired

 

[toffee]

I asked AI if Klint Kubiak is the dumbest Kubiak, and it said that although the matter was debatable, based on the evidence available, Klint most likely is the dumbest Kubiak.

He just needs better leadership from the front office and head coach. This year, all the stars lined up for Klint, and he will be a star.

 

[CouchLogic]

The offense is filled with Pros that have been doing the NFL thing for awhile, not a bunch of rookies with zero experience. The only question mark is if they can gel, and that's the same for every team, every year. Expecting a bottom tier unit is goofy as hell.

 

[seabowl]

The offense is filled with Pros that have been doing the NFL thing for awhile, not a bunch of rookies with zero experience. The only question mark is if they can gel, and that's the same for every team, every year. Expecting a bottom tier unit is goofy as hell.

I hear you, but it’s not as far-fetched as you think if they perform poorly. If Kupp can’t stay healthy (which isn’t out of the realm of possibility based on history) that could be a big problem. Also, we do not know the impact that DK had in taking pressure off of guys like JSN. Without DK now, JSN will get a lot more coverage on him. Lastly, Darnold ain’t playing behind the Skins Hogs so we’ll see what he can do since last year was really the only strong year he’s had. I would say there’s a better chance they can be poor than they being great.

 

[GeekHawk]

No worse than average, which would put us at 16th or so. With our D, that should be enough to give us a fairly good season. Next year, watch out NFL! I'm giving Kubiak the benefit of the doubt, unlike with bevel who I never ever wanted.

 

[Appyhawk]

IF our offense can do reasonably well establishing the run our defense will be good enough to give us a shot in every game. I also think our offense needs to get off to a strong start, as in winning game 1. Otherwise they will have no basis for belief they can do it. We play a daunting schedule this year so we can not afford to get behind the other contenders.
I don't really anticipate QB and WR issues unless you just blame them instead of the real cause, which would likely be a leaky line.

 

[Lagartixa]

The offense is filled with Pros that have been doing the NFL thing for awhile, not a bunch of rookies with zero experience. The only question mark is if they can gel, and that's the same for every team, every year.

Right. It doesn't matter if your offense has a roster that's like the 2007 Patriots or one like the 2024 Browns. It's just a matter of jelling.

Wait, though... If that's the case, then why would NFL teams spend more money on what they perceive as better veterans and draft the best players they can, if jelling is all that matters? Couldn't they just sign a bunch of really cool guys without expensive free-agent tags and just "chemistry" their way to a title for much less money?

$#!+ty NFL vets also have been doing the NFL thing for a while and are not rookies with zero experience, but they continue to suck. Think 2017-2022 Germain Ifedi. He wasn't a rookie, had been doing the NFL thing, and was bad just the same. And even good teams have $#!+ty vets, so maybe "jelling" isn't really what decides whether an NFL team's offense is good. Maybe the overall quality of the roster is kinda important.

Expecting a bottom tier unit is goofy as hell.

Using nonsense from mediots who don't understand the details of how an NFL offense works is what's goofy as hell. "Chemistry" is the last refuge of the talking-head mediot who doesn't understand what's actually making the team good. And that goes way beyond NFL offense. It applies to just about all aspects of all sports. I remember when the '93 Phillies were doing well, and the mediots were attributing it to them being "scrappy." Never mind that the team as a whole had an over-.350 OBA because they were second in MLB in walks (and the only team ahead of them was in the AL, so the Phillies, with pitchers batting a lot, were better at taking walks than all but one of the teams in the AL who had the advantage of the DH). Mediots at that time couldn't fathom the value of walks, so they just invented BS "explanations" based on "chemistry" and "scrappiness" and other nonsense.

 

[MORGULON]

I think it's going to be like last year's defense. Start out a little slow and get a hell of a lot better as the year goes on. I love the way coach Mike is putting this team together. He clearly knows what he wants, what he is, and I think he learned a hell of a lot that first season.
If you're not all in, he'll send you packing. That's one thing I won't miss about Pete, WAY too loyal to certain players.

Agreed.

I would be very surprised if this was a lethal offense early . By the end of the season they'll be a lot better .

I almost picked " some good some bad" but the optimist wouldn't let me

 

[toffee]

Culture matters: We have John Schneider
Coaching matters: We have Mike Macdonald
System matters: We have Klint Kubiak
Players matter: We have Sam Darnold, Drew Lock, K9, JSN

 

[hawks85]

We will definitely be more productive and absolutely more balanced.

 

[CouchLogic]

Wait, though... If that's the case, then why would NFL teams spend more money on what they perceive as better veterans and draft the best players they can, if jelling is all that matters? Couldn't they just sign a bunch of really cool guys without expensive free-agent tags and just "chemistry" their way to a title for much less money?

So like, Seattle's SB winning roster.

 

[Torc]

I asked AI if Klint Kubiak is the dumbest Kubiak, and it said that although the matter was debatable, based on the evidence available, Klint most likely is the dumbest Kubiak.

You asked a leading question. I asked ChatGPT "who is the smartest Kubiak?" and got this answer:

 

[seabowl]

We will definitely be more productive and absolutely more balanced.

So switching out Geno and DK/Lockett for Darnold and Kupp makes you use the word “definitely”? There is no way you can think the changes they have made is a sure thing. Not saying it isn’t gonna happen, but you have a lot more confidence than I do.

 

[Lagartixa]

So like, Seattle's SB winning roster.

Right. Ya sure got me there! There wasn't a single All-Pro or Pro Bowl player among them. Every one of them was just a cool guy from the street who only did well because of "chemistry" (or whatever other mediot-invented nonsense to which you want to attribute their success) because they were all cool and just got along well. It's not like any one of them was actually considered a good player, had ever made a Pro Bowl before or ever made a Pro Bowl or All-Pro again with other players or on other teams. It was "chemistry" and "chemistry" alone that made the 2013 Seahawks a winning team. A buncha scrubs who just liked each other and won based on that.

And never mind that teammates got in a fistfight shortly before the actual game in which they won a Super Bowl title. It was chemistry that won that title, dammit!

Parroting media nonsense without processing it is lazy, but many of us do it. There's a reason there are so many ignorant-of-how-the-games-are-actually-won sports mediots. There's a market for it because they offer a shortcut. Rather than having to understand the intricacies of how NFL plays happen and what makes different parts succeed, it's easier to fall back on nonsense that isn't supported at all by the facts or any kind of analysis, but is much easier to understand. So OK, I get it. I've caught myself thinking lazily because I had heard the lazy thinker's position repeated enough times.

However, insisting on defending the mediots' ridiculous positions and made-up crap (that again, they make up because they don't understand what's really going on) after actually thinking about what nonsense it is... that's different. That's getting into actual willful ignorance.

 

[toffee]

So switching out Geno and DK/Lockett for Darnold and Kupp makes you use the word “definitely”? There is no way you can think the changes they have made is a sure thing. Not saying it isn’t gonna happen, but you have a lot more confidence than I do.

It comes down to trust, ie do you trust decisions made by John Schneider? The president of football operations and the face of our franchise.

 

[bileever]

You asked a leading question. I asked ChatGPT "who is the smartest Kubiak?" and got this answer:

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I hope you realized that I was just joking around. You can get AI to say anything if you give it the right prompt.