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Vikings offered a contract no one else in the league was willing to match. He was the lone free agent out of hundreds of contracts to get a 5 year contract. Coming off a broken leg no less.
teams require physicals almost every time. I'm blown away how aggressively the Vikings approached free agency this year.
Probably because they have very little draft capital and they know they have to get it right after letting Darnold walk.
If JJ comes in and struggles their fans will be asking why Darnold was left to walk away.
I think their fans will still be asking why Darnold was left to walk away when JJ is struggling this season and the next and the next while Darnold and the Hawks are making regular playoff appearances (with playoff wins).
 

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That's not really what I said. If Schneider thought Fries was worthy of a "massive" deal based on his play and potential alone, I believe he should have gambled on him checking out physically. The top free agents almost always sign during that negotiation window, so there's always going to be an element of risk. You have to gamble somewhere, and his injury is not one that we see truncating careers. He's young and has access to top notch health care. Was there anything preventing him from sending the team x-rays or something?

I'm ok with Schneider not getting in a bidding war with the Vikings over him though.
Agreed, they have our jock it seems, some our biggest mistakes have been when dealing with them.
 

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... about the offensive line: ‘I get it.’


A pretty sane article and take on our situation. I took note of several things in the article.

I didn't realize that Fries went 88MM over 5 years on his deal. I wouldn't have matched that deal either.

This quote rings true: “So, what does that mean? Do we just go ahead and start panicking and paying other guys who aren’t quite as good?”

Like this part: “We usually don’t jump in (to free agency that begins each March) that quick. We’ve made some decisions in the past that weren’t the best for the organization, because we weren’t patient. And you for that, because we want to be a team that is acquiring all throughout the year.”

And this too: “We need to be able to fix your team,” Schneider said. “And you have to have discipline in your spending. “I get it. We all want it. We all want things right now."

I've actually posted a couple times in frustration saying JS should be let go. This article gave me a little bit more of a perspective. They truly think that with the new coaching regime on offense that wasn't fire-saled together last season will make a difference, and I find it tough to argue with that. They also think that they have some developing players that needed both a little bit more time and some new coaching to come along.

Just changed my attitude on a few things. Not feeling as 'rudderless' about the situation now as I have in the past. He's right, you have to plan for the whole season, not just a FA splash. In particular when the biggest 'fish that got away' didn't even want to come for a physical, even given the busted leg.

Hasn't flipped me into 'magical unicorn rainbow farts' land - just a bit of perspective.

... about the offensive line: ‘I get it.’


A pretty sane article and take on our situation. I took note of several things in the article.

I didn't realize that Fries went 88MM over 5 years on his deal. I wouldn't have matched that deal either.

This quote rings true: “So, what does that mean? Do we just go ahead and start panicking and paying other guys who aren’t quite as good?”

Like this part: “We usually don’t jump in (to free agency that begins each March) that quick. We’ve made some decisions in the past that weren’t the best for the organization, because we weren’t patient. And you for that, because we want to be a team that is acquiring all throughout the year.”

And this too: “We need to be able to fix your team,” Schneider said. “And you have to have discipline in your spending. “I get it. We all want it. We all want things right now."

I've actually posted a couple times in frustration saying JS should be let go. This article gave me a little bit more of a perspective. They truly think that with the new coaching regime on offense that wasn't fire-saled together last season will make a difference, and I find it tough to argue with that. They also think that they have some developing players that needed both a little bit more time and some new coaching to come along.

Just changed my attitude on a few things. Not feeling as 'rudderless' about the situation now as I have in the past. He's right, you have to plan for the whole season, not just a FA splash. In particular when the biggest 'fish that got away' didn't even want to come for a physical, even given the busted leg.

Hasn't flipped me into 'magical unicorn rainbow farts' land - just a bit of perspective.
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Here's where the four teams that made their conference championship games last season ranked in spending:

Chiefs
Offense - 2nd
Defense - 20th

Bills
Offense - 15th
Defense - 12th

Eagles
Offense - 9th
Defense - 25th

Commanders
Offense - 14th
Defense - 6th

For reference, we were 11th on offense and 23rd on defense.

A lot of that can be kind of misleading though. The Chiefs' four highest paid players, all on offense) took up 40% of their cap: Mahomes and Thuney combined for 25% with Kelce and Juwaan Taylor taking 15%. The Eagles' top four highest paid players were also on offense, but they took up just 20%: Lane Johnson at 6%, Hurts at 5%, and AJ Brown and Jordan Maliata taking around 4.5% a piece.

Geno (10.5%), Lockett (7.4%), and DK (5.9%) were our only players over 5%. Dre'Mont Jones and Leonard Williams were just over 4%, followed by Noah Fant at just under 3%.

The Rams' top seven were all offense and they only had two defensive players making more than Colby Parkinson or Jimmy Garoppolo. Stafford and Kupp took up 30% of their cap on their own.

I'm not sure what any of this means. Just found it interesting.
 
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The Rams' top seven were all offense and they only had two defensive players making more than Colby Parkinson or Jimmy Garoppolo. Stafford and Kupp took up 30% of their cap on their own.

I'm not sure what any of this means. Just found it interesting.
To me, it means that the Rams have recently invested their premium draft picks on the defensive side of the ball... setting themselves up nicely for the next 3 to 4 years.
 

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A lot of that can be kind of misleading though.

I'm not sure what any of this means. Just found it ininteresting.
For sure it's not as simple as my post made it seem, and in-depth analysis is needed, but i think it's apparent that "defense wins championships" isn't any more true than "offense wins championships".
I think that phrase is only true when players or a league are extremely offensive-minded, for example the NBA. Probably 90% of NBA players don't give a damn about defense, so any team that actually plays defense is bound to be one of the best teams, just like any player who actually plays defense is bound to be one of the most valuable players (even if defense is undervalued).
 

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To me, it means that the Rams have recently invested their premium draft picks on the defensive side of the ball... setting themselves up nicely for the next 3 to 4 years.
They havn't really been using premium picks. This past season was the first time they had made a first-round selection since Jared Goff in 2016 and they hadn't used a pick higher than a third rounder on a defensive player since Taylor Rapp in the second round in 2019. They sure killed it last year though.

Since 2020, they've used three third round picks on defensive players: Bryon Young, Kobie Turner, and Ernest Jones.

I think they might know what they're doing, unfortunately.
 

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I'm thinking, and what I've read, is that Jody Allen is a little more hands on than it seems. JS is quoted on the team website saying JA can be very direct at times. I don't know how much that plays into who JS signs, or doesn't sign, but it makes you wonder a little bit.
 

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I think their fans will still be asking why Darnold was left to walk away when JJ is struggling this season and the next and the next while Darnold and the Hawks are making regular playoff appearances (with playoff wins).
and the entire Vikings nation shouting: "We want John Schneider, we want John Schneider".
 

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I'm thinking, and what I've read, is that Jody Allen is a little more hands on than it seems. JS is quoted on the team website saying JA can be very direct at times. I don't know how much that plays into who JS signs, or doesn't sign, but it makes you wonder a little bit.
Very direct in her praising, which made Schneider blush.
 

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Now now, Benchwarmer...none of that.

Let's turn that frown upside-down!
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