DK Has Requested a Trade!

[chrispy]

To me, this has all the signs of adding by subtraction on both sides; a win/win albeit a tough decision. I'd expect DK to become refocused and get the proverbial chip on his shoulder. He could make a step change in productivity on a team that really makes him a focus of their offense. I think he'll be better if he's on another team.

In Seattle, JSN is the #1 WR here-forward. You can't pay 2 #1 WRs and swallow a huge QB contract... and that's Seattle's near term cap situation if DK gets a big payday. DK is a really good player but chosing between him and JSN for the next 10 years seems logical to side with JSN. Get some return, some cap relief and use that flexibility to build around JSN in the WR room as well as OL and/or future cap space for FA options.

To me, I just think it's choosing who's the longterm #1 WR....

 

[Sol Duc]

I really believe they will get a late 1st round pick.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

I have no clue what DK will net in return. The FA class is terrible and the draft doesn’t look good either. It’s possible they get a first? If they do and they can sign a Dionte Johnson or someone like that then it could turn out very well.

Agreed. And if you can get 2 teams competing against each like the patriots and the bills. DK may put the Bills over the top. The Patriots desperately want a #1 to pair with Maye. Something like that could drive up his value.

The thing is, in this scheme you don’t really need a massive #1 WR. You can get a nice compliment to JSN and be fine.

I think, with this news about DK, 2 things need to happen.

1) Trade DK very quickly, don’t let it drag out.
2) If DK is traded, move on from Geno. I know I have advocated for Geno to stay and why it made sense but I didn’t have DK being traded on my bingo card. Rumor is, Darnold market isn’t nearly as high as was expected.

Who knows what we could get. I’d be happy with a 1st or a 2nd and 3rd. But I don’t think they can sit and wait on it.

 

[GemCity]

Letting DK seek a trade is a good strategic move on Schneider's part. DK wants AJ Brown money, $32 million a year. Maybe he'll discover that he's not getting that anywhere he goes.

I like DK and I hope he stays. But I also don't think it makes any sense to spend $30 million on one receiver. Paying WRs became a thing after Tyreek Hill got his money. The price on WRs really shot up quickly after that.

Now, in the last year, many articles were written about how the WR position doesn't merit such a large share of the salary cap because the difference between a great WR and a good receiver isn't enough to justify the gap.

In addition, a high-priced WR isn't going to be the missing piece that catapults you to the Super Bowl. Much was made this year about how so few of the best wide receivers were in the playoffs. Jamarr Chase, Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill, CeeDee Lamb etc. The idea is that not having a good offensive line will keep you out of the playoffs, but not having a good WR will not. I don't think anyone thinks that AJ Brown is the reason the Eagles won the Super Bowl.

So I hope DK sees that he's not getting $30 million from anyone and signs a more reasonable deal with the Seahawks, but we can't use that much cap space on one wide receiver.

As much as I’d hate to lose DK, well said.

 

[GemCity]

To me, this has all the signs of adding by subtraction on both sides; a win/win albeit a tough decision. I'd expect DK to become refocused and get the proverbial chip on his shoulder. He could make a step change in productivity on a team that really makes him a focus of their offense. I think he'll be better if he's on another team.

In Seattle, JSN is the #1 WR here-forward. You can't pay 2 #1 WRs and swallow a huge QB contract... and that's Seattle's near term cap situation if DK gets a big payday. DK is a really good player but chosing between him and JSN for the next 10 years seems logical to side with JSN. Get some return, some cap relief and use that flexibility to build around JSN in the WR room as well as OL and/or future cap space for FA options.

To me, I just think it's choosing who's the longterm #1 WR....

I love JSN…I’m an OSU fanatic too.

But, JSN doesn’t get near the yards he did without having another threat for the defense to think about.

We expected Lockett to be released…DK on top of that?

JSN is phenomenal but he might need to get used to having two defenders on him.

 

[Hawkinaz]

I love JSN…I’m an OSU fanatic too.

But, JSN doesn’t get near the yards he did without having another threat for the defense to think about.

We expected Lockett to be released…DK on top of that?

JSN is phenomenal but he might need to get used to having two defenders on him.

Things will look very different in Kubiaks west coast offense forget what happened last year

 

[Wsumatt1982]

Bob Condotta posted on X an unknown team already offered a 3rd. That’s it.

 

[Atradees]

McDonald Era full steam ahead. They ain't holding back. Now let's see what we can do next. Excited.

 

[Rat]

I really don't think the return is going to be worth it. A trade request usually kills your leverage unless you're an overrated loudmouth who plays a non-premium position and couldn't cover my grandmother. Teams will definitely try to lowball us, and given that he has just one year left on his current deal and any acquiring team will have to factor in his next contract, I don't see a substantial bidding war.

I hope we keep him. If we don't, I hope he goes to a team that will actually use him to his fullest, and have a fan base that deserves him, because this one sure as hell doesn't.

 

[Sonichound16]

I love JSN…I’m an OSU fanatic too.

But, JSN doesn’t get near the yards he did without having another threat for the defense to think about.

We expected Lockett to be released…DK on top of that?

JSN is phenomenal but he might need to get used to having two defenders on him.

I know that is the generally accepted belief but I am not so sure about that. Look at the Lions for example, ASB is a stud and gets his catches and yards and it wasn't until this year that Jameson Williams started doing anything. Alot has been made of teams having to double DK over the top but any speedy WR can force that. You don't have to pay $35 million a year for a guy that just makes someone else better. My main issues with DK are that he doesn't seem to be good at the things someone with his obvious physical gifts should be good at. He doesn't high point the ball, make contested catches, make people miss or is especially hard to tackle. He is great if he gets the ball and has room to run but you can get someone for much less $$ that can do that.

 

[Seahawker]

Bob Condotta posted on X an unknown team already offered a 3rd. That’s it.

If that's true, the team that offered a 3rd probably believes Seattle will want a 1st.
Both teams know from the start that a 2nd would be an agreeable price with maybe a lower pick or player to be packaged. Maybe JS can swing a nice deal but the leverage usually goes to the player that asks for a trade, Deebo was a different player & deal. I think DK's value will hold higher and there will be interest.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

Good time for Seattle to exercise basic football 101. Win the trenches on both sides. Seattle by moving on from DK, it gives Seattle more of a reason to build a good, pound the rock run game. And whatever Mac wants to do with the defense will and should be complementary to the offense and be in the same image.

With Seattle’s pass game now seemingly its main weakness with an only proven JSN, Seattle has no choice but to be good everywhere else.

Schneider will really get to prove he belongs with this organization starting right now.

I don’t think Schneider anticipated losing Metcalf this off season (there’s no reason to keep a malcontent receiver either) but that’s how the game played out.

Ball is in your court, Schneider, if and when Metcalf finds a team willing to deal to get Metcalf.

Things are very interesting at the VMAC!

 

[hawks85]

Metcalf definitely wants his bag. I don't know, I'm starting to think Metcalf may be the real locker room cancer. Dude's definitely a diva that's for damn sure.

 

[Cyrus12]

Too bad but obviously has problems with the system here. Our wr corps is looking mighty thin...you Bobo fanatics must be happy..after all he is better than DK...nows his chance.

 

[DarkVictory23]

Letting DK seek a trade is a good strategic move on Schneider's part. DK wants AJ Brown money, $32 million a year. Maybe he'll discover that he's not getting that anywhere he goes.

I like DK and I hope he stays. But I also don't think it makes any sense to spend $30 million on one receiver. Paying WRs became a thing after Tyreek Hill got his money. The price on WRs really shot up quickly after that.

Now, in the last year, many articles were written about how the WR position doesn't merit such a large share of the salary cap because the difference between a great WR and a good receiver isn't enough to justify the gap.

In addition, a high-priced WR isn't going to be the missing piece that catapults you to the Super Bowl. Much was made this year about how so few of the best wide receivers were in the playoffs. Jamarr Chase, Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill, CeeDee Lamb etc. The idea is that not having a good offensive line will keep you out of the playoffs, but not having a good WR will not. I don't think anyone thinks that AJ Brown is the reason the Eagles won the Super Bowl.

So I hope DK sees that he's not getting $30 million from anyone and signs a more reasonable deal with the Seahawks, but we can't use that much cap space on one wide receiver.

I think there is definitely a bit of market recalculation happening re: Wide Receivers and relatedly Running Backs.

NFL is super cyclical as teams scramble to get on top of the new 'meta', and for awhile it was 'you can replace any RB with any other RB' and WRs were considered the spot where you parked all of your skill player cash.

Now, with Derrick Henry and Saquon Barkley super-charging two offenses and running in general making a bit of a comeback, teams are reallocating resources to the running game. Tie that in with how offensive lineman are coming from college less and less ready for the NFL level game (making proven NFL level OL player ever more valuable) and I think this might just not be the right moment for DK to get the bag I think he wants.

That said, Brandon Aiyuk just got a $120M contract pulling basically this exact move, so who knows how this will eventually play out.

 

[Vesuve]

I think with this going on and the releae of Tyler we are oficially in rebuild mode.

I assume we draft 1 or WRs next month?

 

[HawkRiderFan]

I didn't want DK gone but I was thinking about that happens at this time next year. He has the physical tools to be one of the best in the league but doesn't quite put it all together to be there in production. But would probably look to be paid like a top 10 so would that be worth it?

 

[Wsumatt1982]

If that's true, the team that offered a 3rd probably believes Seattle will want a 1st.
Both teams know from the start that a 2nd would be an agreeable price with maybe a lower pick or player to be packaged. Maybe JS can swing a nice deal but the leverage usually goes to the player that asks for a trade, Deebo was a different player & deal. I think DK's value will hold higher and there will be interest.

I just watched a good video. 3rd is and should be off the table. If he plays final year and walks then we get a 3rd rd comp pick so thats out for sure.

That was an excellent point I had not thought of. I’m looking at comparable WR trades the last few years and factor in the market in FA and draft we can get a good haul. We just need to make sure we reallocate those funds to the trenches. That’s the key.

 

[nanomoz]

I'd take the Raiders 2nd, 4th, and Michael Mayer. I think he's a great fit for Kubiak.

 

[Chukarhawk]

I really believe they will get a late 1st round pick.

not a chance. When is the last time a receiver garnered a 1st round pick in a trade?