Woolen

[Seahawkwalt1967]

What was he doing orher than watching Jefferson run past him?

What happened to deeper than the deepest??

 

[hinton]

That just means riq has help. JJ was riq’s man.

This 100%

The safety is there to help the CB, not the other way around.

Looked like Woolen switched off thinking the ball wasn't coming his way. Again.

 

[getnasty]

This 100%

The safety is there to help the CB, not the other way around.

Looked like Woolen switched off thinking the ball wasn't coming his way. Again.

If it was man then yes it would be right but they were in zone. Love had deep 3rd, nobody has a man they have an area.

 

[HawkFreak]

If it was man then yes it would be right but they were in zone. Love had deep 3rd, nobody has a man they have an area.

So if no one is in your area you get to just take the play off, stand there, and watch a game winning TD be scored.
If that's the plan then zone sucks.

 

[HawkFreak]

They are in zone. If there's a late crosser that comes underneath for a first down you complaining about that. Zack Charbonnet had a dunk off that went for 15 yards on a 3rd down early on a similar play. The DB dropped to far helping on DK and then gave up the underneath. First blame would be to the DL not getting home. Second blame goes to Love for not getting over.

I actually would have preferred the underneath completion vs. the TD.

 

[getnasty]

I actually would have preferred the underneath completion vs. the TD.

What makes a great defense is being discipline and trusting your teammate. Sure now that we see the result we would want Woolen to abandoned his assignment and give up a 20 yard crossing pattern. That not how it works though. It's not like they were on the 15 yard line and didn't carry it far enough. They were on the 40 and the ball was caught on the 2. After rewatching I don't even think Love was late, I think he took a bad angle.

 

[stack55]

I get having safety help...but there was no one else in that area. Why in the world would Woolen pass him off to safety help and not stick with coverage on their best WR? What play was he going to go and make after he passed him off?

I agree, he was staring at Darnold instead of covering JJ. fool move.

 

[HawkeyGoalie]

What makes a great defense is being discipline and trusting your teammate. Sure now that we see the result we would want Woolen to abandoned his assignment and give up a 20 yard crossing pattern. That not how it works though. It's not like they were on the 15 yard line and didn't carry it far enough. They were on the 40 and the ball was caught on the 2. After rewatching I don't even think Love was late, I think he took a bad angle.

Who was Riq watching for a crossing pattern?? Once the ball was thrown Riq's casual Sunday walk instead of cheetah run-down was annoying too.

 

[HawkFreak]

What makes a great defense is being discipline and trusting your teammate. Sure now that we see the result we would want Woolen to abandoned his assignment and give up a 20 yard crossing pattern. That not how it works though. It's not like they were on the 15 yard line and didn't carry it far enough. They were on the 40 and the ball was caught on the 2. After rewatching I don't even think Love was late, I think he took a bad angle.

When you say "we would have wanted Woolen to abandon his assignment" do you mean we would have wanted him to leave his empty zone with no potential play or player near him and help double Jefferson?

If that's what your saying then yes. I would want that every time. Not just in hindsight.

 

[HawkFreak]

Who was Riq watching for a crossing pattern?? Once the ball was thrown Riq's casual Sunday walk instead of cheetah run-down was annoying too. View attachment 68730

That's what I mean. Look at that pic. There is NO ONE near Woolen's zone. At that point zone scheme be dammed. Get on your freaking horse and make a play on Jefferson.

 

[RRR]

Exactly this. Having help doesn’t mean you give up.

Exactly, he knew he had help so it didn’t look like there was any sense of urgency. I know they tried to light a fire under him by benching him in the first series. But they need iron mike to rip him a new one . Why he’s at it rip on the line for false starts. I know they want a participation trophy but it’s time to have run up the stairs at lumen for every fals summary. No not me codle

 

[RRR]

So if no one is in your area you get to just take the play off, stand there, and watch a game winning TD be scored.
If that's the plan then zone sucks.

The dude needs to quit thinking he is so great and own his mistakes and work hard to fix his game. He needs competition at his spot and get his shit together

 

[getnasty]

Who was Riq watching for a crossing pattern?? Once the ball was thrown Riq's casual Sunday walk instead of cheetah run-down was annoying too. View attachment 68730

Why not blame the linebackers who are guarding nobody. Maybe they should have left their zone and headed to the end zone. Why is Love not over there earlier with Noone else in the middle of the field?

 

[getnasty]

Who was Riq watching for a crossing pattern?? Once the ball was thrown Riq's casual Sunday walk instead of cheetah run-down was annoying too. View attachment 68730

Agree to disagree. Woolen has to come all the way up and make a play on Jones if there's a check down. The DL didn’t get home and Love was late. Not Woolen's fault. Do you think Love has no responsibility?

 

[getnasty]

That's what I mean. Look at that pic. There is NO ONE near Woolen's zone. At that point zone scheme be dammed. Get on your freaking horse and make a play on Jefferson.

Here's what Coach Mcdonald had to say about it. https://www.fieldgulls.com/2024/12/...riq-woolen-benched-vikings-game-seahawks-news

 

[HawkFreak]

Here's what Coach Mcdonald had to say about it. https://www.fieldgulls.com/2024/12/...riq-woolen-benched-vikings-game-seahawks-news

No one is saying Love didn't have responsibility in the scheme / play. Just that Woolen could have made the decision to give the play everything he had and help Love defend one of the best WRs in the game. Imagine Woolen have that kind of attitude and motivation instead of doing the bare minimum.

If Woolen breaks scheme and helps break up the TD - does Woolen get reprimanded and benched for not staying in his zone area and just watching?

 

[getnasty]

No one is saying Love didn't have responsibility in the scheme / play. Just that Woolen could have made the decision to give the play everything he had and help Love defend one of the best WRs in the game. Imagine Woolen have that kind of attitude and motivation instead of doing the bare minimum.

If Woolen breaks scheme and helps break up the TD - does Woolen get reprimanded and benched for not staying in his zone area and just watching?

The thread is name "Woolen" and then complains about him not playing it right. When in fact he played it the way he should but you continue to focus on him instead of who is really at fault. Woolen has plenty of faults but why beat him down for playing the play the way the coaching staff designed.

 

[HawkFreak]

The thread is name "Woolen" and then complains about him not playing it right. When in fact he played it the way he should but you continue to focus on him instead of who is really at fault. Woolen has plenty of faults but why beat him down for playing the play the way the coaching staff designed.

Because regardless of the technicalities of the scheme....in that particular situation...and considering his continued lack of 100% effort...I feel he should have made a different decision and reacted to what he saw happening.