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I dont even know what to say in response. Its impossible to debate a thing when literally claim i said something i didnt. I NEVER said Geno was superior to Burrow. What i said was that if Burrow were in Seattle putting up the exact same numbers as Geno, the folks claiming Geno isnt great would be giving Burrow a pass.
Clear?
I also pointed to the FACT that last year, with a slightly better supporting cast, Burrow finished lower than Geno. That isnt me claiming anything. Its me citing what happened.
Ozzy. You are doing it again.
Find ANY example of a QB with the TRIFECTA of bad pieces that Geno has had who has put up better numbers.
Post it.
Otherwise you are just claiming something that doesnt exist.
And Burrow this year - his line is rated around 13th best.
Burrow also has Jamar Chase.
We have DK Metcalf, who has an article written about him and how bad his drops and turnovers are and how they have taken TDs off the board and killed momentum in games this year that we coukd have won.
And therein lies the rub.
You and other flatly ignore the offer to actually debate fact, like finding the QB who has ranked better than Geno with an equally bad supporting cast in 3 aspects of his team. Then you go on and say pattently FALSE things like how Russ and others have done more with less. That in the face of
@Maelstrom787 pointing soecifically to that argument months ago and showing that Russ NEVER had to play with a 28th ranked line, 30th ranked defense, and 29th ranked rushing attack at the same time. Its simply false. It has NEVER happened. And thats not cherry picking stats. Its stating obviously that its one thing to 'light it up' regardless of yiur running game being there as Russ did in 17. But he also had a D ranked in the top half of the league. NOT next to last. Do you honestly believe anyone is talking about how incredible that season was for him if our defense never gave him achance to be on the field and let the opposition dominate us every game?
No.
And Russ has shown what he can do when forced to actually play in a pro, NFL offense and NOT run the scramble drill all game. Just look at the offense he runs now and how entirely truncated it is. But you will likely focus on on his TD to INt numbers as valudation of your position and the Steelers record and claim proof of your argument, while ignoring the fact the dude posted completion percentages in the 50s for half his starts and had a qbr of 14 in one... all while running an offense with a killer defense, run game and better protection than ours.
And you dont have to listen to my 'comparisons'. Folks whos job it is to assess film have stated flatly that a guy like Jared Goff who is easily 1 or 2 on the MVP conversation woul likely play worse than Geno if he were in Seattle with the flaws we have.
You just seem to point to things like TD to Int and again, ignore 2Tds pulled off the board in a single game, and an int that shouldnt have happened, when none of that was the qbs fault. Had those stood, the TDs are 13, ints 10. Thats ONE example on a team that league wide and in local and regional media has been the worst at beatung itself with self inflicted play.
You talk about the timeliness of Geno's mistakes and flatly ignore the back breaking timing of drops, penalties and boneheaded mistakes that led to turnovers by that supporting cast you choose to see as stellar when theres an article highlighting ganme by game the mistakes DK made that could havr altered the outcome of games.
But you go straight to how GREAT they are and just slide the result of their faliures to the QB.
Matty F Brown, who straight calls it like it is and basis his assessments on actually game tape and deep analysis has said pretty plainly that :
A: Very few of Geno's INTs have been a resukt of HIS poor play or poor decision making (depsite being one of the most lressured QBs in the league)
B: Geno's TD number are low but thats nit indicative of NOT being able to score because we were near league best in rishing TDs, depsite having a largeley innefective rushing attack? Simple analysis points to why- because Geno has repeatedly gotten us to the one yard linr or inside the 6 and we have just run it in from there.
So using TDs as an argument is again, cherry picking, because the guy who undoubtedly got us inside the 5 was Geno. You faulting him for Grubb choosing to run from there is blind stat farming for the sake of framing an argument.
