NFL / Sunday Ticket anti trust case

[Hawkinaz]

 

[sc85sis]

NFL loses 'Sunday Ticket' trial, ordered to pay $4 billion by federal jury

The NFL must pay $4 billion, a federal jury ruled in a class action lawsuit alleging that the league violated antitrust law to suppress competition.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[RolandDeschain]

I've been tracking this, excellent news on the verdict. Hopefully it holds up. The NFL is very anti-fan in reality - in a lot of ways that matter. I gave up on Sunday Ticket after paying for it for a couple of years along WITH different live TV services including sports packages and Amazon Prime and STILL not being able to watch 1-3 Seahawks games each season. The NFL can go **** itself.

 

[Hawkinaz]

And since the NFL violated anti trust laws the fine is triple at $12 Billion. My question if the NFL does pay the fine who will be getting the money? Will it be the fans who have been overcharged or the lawyers? And if the fine is paid you know the price of Sunday Ticket will go up

 

[James in PA]

Do I get any of this money? I was a Sunday Ticket subscriber for years here in Iggles/Stealers/Ravens land.

 

[AROS]

Never had it but I always thought it was a complete snow job that you couldn't simply select your favorite team to watch instead of having to pay for other team games as well as part of the fee.

 

[Hawkinaz]

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[renofox]

I've been tracking this, excellent news on the verdict. Hopefully it holds up. The NFL is very anti-fan in reality - in a lot of ways that matter. I gave up on Sunday Ticket after paying for it for a couple of years along WITH different live TV services including sports packages and Amazon Prime and STILL not being able to watch 1-3 Seahawks games each season. The NFL can go **** itself.

I paid for Sunday Ticket for years and it always pissed me off that I couldn't see all the games.

Finally found a good pirate stream. I now watch all games and it costs $0.00.

FTNFL

 

[Torc]

Pre-streaming, maybe the Sunday ticket made some sense. Post-streaming, there is not a single reason not to sell people "season tickets" to their favorite team(s). I already pay for the NFL+ service (100 bucks a year) because it lets us watch the games that aren't available over the air (which generally means anything on ESPN). I'd be even happier to pay that if they'd remove the stupid mobile-only restriction (I can watch live games on my phone but not on my ipad, or my apple TV? wot?).

I'm 100% sure that the one thing preventing such a service is the enormous contracts with the major networks. It would take a lot of subscribers to make up for the billions of dollars they pay for exclusivity.

 

[RolandDeschain]

I paid for Sunday Ticket for years and it always pissed me off that I couldn't see all the games.

Finally found a good pirate stream. I now watch all games and it costs $0.00.

FTNFL

This is what I've been doing the past two years as well. I'm trying to give the NFL as close to $0 as I possibly can.

 

[RiverDog]

I agreed with the decision. It's obvious that the NFL is much more interested in maximizing their profits than they are providing their fans with a high quality, affordable product. The offer they turned down from ESPN is what cemented my opinion. They would have still made money, just that there was more money to be made by selling the entire package as one. It was a very cynical, completely selfish act, very much like the railroad barons of the late 19th century.

I just hope that this doesn't turn into a rich-getting-richer proposition if they force them to sell games for individual teams and allow those teams to keep the proceeds. The revenue needs to be split 32 ways just as the network TV deals are.

 

[DeSeahawk]

Do I get any of this money? I was a Sunday Ticket subscriber for years here in Iggles/Stealers/Ravens land.

I hear ya , buddy. Without the ticket, we get what, 3 or 4 games a year ? 2 night games and maybe 1 or 2 day games.

Like Aros said, people should get to buy the team option .

If there's a payout to previous subscribers, it will probably come in the form of future ticket plan discounts. A one time $10 off for every year you subscribed. And no way it will be enough to pay for an entire season.

 

[chris98251]

Under Goodell the league has went completely corporate, product and player safety are totally secondary.

 

[RiverDog]

NFL's Sunday Ticket Verdict Overturned:

A federal judge on Thursday overturned a jury's $4.7 billion verdict in the class action lawsuit filed by "Sunday Ticket" subscribers against the NFL and granted judgment to the NFL.

U.S. District Judge Philip Gutierrez ruled that the testimony of two witnesses for the subscribers had flawed methodologies and should have been excluded.

Without the testimonies of Dr. [Daniel] Rascher and Dr. [John] Zona, no reasonable jury could have found class-wide injury or damages," Gutierrez wrote at the end of his 16-page ruling.

On June 27 the jury awarded $4.7 billion in damages to residential and commercial subscribers after it ruled the NFL violated antitrust laws in distributing out-of-market Sunday afternoon games on a premium subscription service.

The lawsuit covered 2.4 million residential subscribers and 48,000 businesses in the United States that paid for the package on DirecTV of out-of-market games from the 2011 through 2022 seasons.

"We are grateful for today's ruling in the Sunday Ticket class action lawsuit," the NFL said in a statement. "We believe that the NFL's media distribution model provides our fans with an array of options to follow the game they love, including local broadcasts of every single game on free over-the-air television. We thank Judge Gutierrez for his time and attention to this case and look forward to an exciting 2024 NFL season."

MSN

 

[chris98251]

Hmmm, the NFL found a way to dodge a bullet once again.

 

[MyrtleHawk]

Pre-streaming, maybe the Sunday ticket made some sense. Post-streaming, there is not a single reason not to sell people "season tickets" to their favorite team(s). I already pay for the NFL+ service (100 bucks a year) because it lets us watch the games that aren't available over the air (which generally means anything on ESPN). I'd be even happier to pay that if they'd remove the stupid mobile-only restriction (I can watch live games on my phone but not on my ipad, or my apple TV? wot?).

I'm 100% sure that the one thing preventing such a service is the enormous contracts with the major networks. It would take a lot of subscribers to make up for the billions of dollars they pay for exclusivity.

How old is your phone/tv? My S24+ has a "Smart View" feature that allows you to transmit what your phone is playing onto a smart tv.

 

[GemCity]

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I paid for Sunday Ticket for years and it always pissed me off that I couldn't see all the games.

Finally found a good pirate stream. I now watch all games and it costs $0.00.

FTNFL

Reno…holla atcha boy. I’m getting robbed atm (Sunday Ticket via YouTube TV).

We don’t even watch YouTube TV except for Hawks football.

 

[GemCity]

I’ve always despised not being able to watch Hawks games here in Dayton…aside from Sunday Ticket.

 

[Torc]

How old is your phone/tv? My S24+ has a "Smart View" feature that allows you to transmit what your phone is playing onto a smart tv.

I have an iphone 15, and tried to mirror it to my AppleTV. the NFL app is flagged to not allow the mirroring.

 

[MyrtleHawk]

I have an iphone 15, and tried to mirror it to my AppleTV. the NFL app is flagged to not allow the mirroring.

Ah that sucks man, just another reason Android is better