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I have no real issue with bringing in a defensive guy like Quinn as HC as long as he brings in another Kyle Shanahan as OC & lets him do his thing.
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We've been watching the same stuff. I'm more than intrigued. Graham did more with less than anybody in the league and his expertise is development. I've started to shift my Quinn perceptions to he actually underachieved considering the talent in Dallas.
I'd be stoked with Graham, and I can't same the same for Quinn and a few others.
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It’s a tough sell if it’s Quinn after getting torched by the teams we will be playing this year with much more talent on defense than we have. Would be shocked if John got his one chance and played it so safe with a high floor low ceiling pick in Quinn. When I think going toe to toe with McVay, Shanahan and what will be an improved AZ offense as well next year Quinn is not the guy I want. It would be a baffling choice. If it’s the case he better get a savant OC
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Maybe they'll give Brian Schottenheimer a HC interview. Then again maybe not.
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Maelstrom787
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Perspective might be a little different on the inside. These interviews are all talented coaches and their ceilings are all fairly undetermined, because coaches so often change quite a lot between roles. There's all sorts of chemistry and synergy considerations.
A big part of this process is growth and relationship, and I don't know that we consider that enough.
They've just got to bet on the guy they think is the right fit. Not necessarily the hottest commodity or the guy who runs the trendiest offense, but the fit that can marry cohesively with the front office in a partnership that'll lead to a unified on-field product.
Is that Quinn? Maybe. Rapport seems like it's there. Could be one of the other offensive guys. Could be a Canales or a Johnson. Could be a guy like Graham who gets buy-in from his guys. Could be a guy like Morris who flamed out as a very young coach but who obviously has a beyond-infectious nature to him and has received a world-class coaching education through the years.
In the end, the determination will be made considering factors that will likely never be known to us. I gotta let it play out here.
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You're not wrong at all it just feels like a low ceiling pick and I think Quinn has enough history to know he's probably not the savant type and that's what you're competing with week in and week out. It feels like a pick that would make John feel comfortable because he's not going to implode the team and John knows he can work with him because they have in the past. But again it just feels like a "good ole boys club" kind of pick where you hire your buddy because its easy. I have no doubts players like Quinn and he would get buy in from his guys. I do have doubts he can keep up with the Shanahans and McVays of the world. I work in an office setting. We have a lot of guys my age (46) who are great workers but they are behind the ball on some technical stuff because younger guys just grow up in it and aren't trying to catch up. That's what it feels like Quinn, Carroll and guys like that have to work against. This is a terrible example but I don't feel like writing another one lol
Dallas has twice the defensive talent we have and yet they had zero answers for the Niners. It's hard for me to get excited about Quinn trying to solve that riddle with our defense and expect a bette result.
If he's the choice I will pray that he nails his staff. Campbell doesn't seem like a savant football mind but he nailed his staff. Quinn is definitely capable of that.
Dallas has twice the defensive talent we have and yet they had zero answers for the Niners. It's hard for me to get excited about Quinn trying to solve that riddle with our defense and expect a bette result.
If he's the choice I will pray that he nails his staff. Campbell doesn't seem like a savant football mind but he nailed his staff. Quinn is definitely capable of that.
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But if its Quinn I'll obviously support it and root for the guy. I do think he's a good dude and has some qualities you want in a head coach. I fascinated to see who his coordinators would be.
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IF they choose Quinn, so be it. It's out of our control. Just my OWN wish that we go with a younger, more creative up and coming guy.
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chris98251
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Like to see Quinn and have him bring in Kellen Moore, the next Chargers Coach will bring his own OC, Chargers did Moore dirty by blocking his chance in Chicago.
CactusJack
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Moore is overrated as an OC. He's more of a name at this point. Dak had his best year without him. Dallas was better as a whole without him this year. He'd be a downgrade from Waldron imo. It's a lateral move at best.
I just don't see the upside with Quinn as the guy. His record in Atlanta without Shanahan as his OC wasn't good. His defenses were near the bottom of the league statistically.
Dallas is stacked with talent on both sides of the ball. Easily a top 3 roster in the NFL. Yet they underachieved. His defense underperformed against good teams. They were awful defending the run. Sound familiar?
This team often played undisciplined & was too predictable under Carroll. Dan Quinn as the head coach will not solve that. He is not the solution.
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CactusJack
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If you want to bring in a defensive HC then guys like Mike MacDonald & Mike Vrabel make the most sense.
Vrabel is not necessarily a defensive savant. But he gets his teams to play a physical brand of Football. Much like Dan Campbell. He's more of a disciplinarian when it comes to fundamentals. Yet his players love playing for him. If John wants to get back to being the bully, then Vrabel would be the right hire.
Vrabel is not necessarily a defensive savant. But he gets his teams to play a physical brand of Football. Much like Dan Campbell. He's more of a disciplinarian when it comes to fundamentals. Yet his players love playing for him. If John wants to get back to being the bully, then Vrabel would be the right hire.
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I'd be fine with Vrabel + brilliant coordinators.
CactusJack
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Vrabel & Arthur Smith could be a package deal.
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SoulfishHawk
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Def. wouldn't have a problem with Vrabel. His guys played hard for him.
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I don't know if this is true, but I thought I read somewhere that part of the reason Vrabel got fired was because he refused to fire his under performing coordinators. Sounds like someone else I know.
CactusJack
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He was let go because the new gm wanted his own guy.
The roster was not good. They did a terrible job of drafting & that's why they fired the other guy. The Offensive line was terrible. They were rotating QB's due to injuries. It just wasn't a good situation. Derrick Henry was their only true offensive weapon & he's starting to breakdown. They made a huge mistake trading Aj Brown. The roster simply wasn't good.
toffee
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How many candidates have we interviewed for the first round?
OneLofaTatupu
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And DK and JSN and Bobo and Lockett (restructure) and and and
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Welp, it's official guys...
