Ok. QBOTF. Who/when/where/why & how?

[Ozzy]

If PCJS had any intention of drafting a QB with a legitimate shot to be the QBOTF, they would have done so in the 2023 draft. I was really hopeful, and somewhat convinced, they would select one of my three choices. #1 Stroud, #2 Richardson, or #3 Levis. All three appear to have great potential as their skills are transferring to solid play in the NFL.

They could have easily moved up to get #1 or #2, and #3 was there with the 20 pick or even trading down to 32.

I am now convinced they will never draft a suitable QB. Instead, I think we'll see something along the lines of:

2024 Geno
2025 Lock
2026 Lock
2027 Fields/Jones/Love/etc
2028 Fields/Jones/Love/etc
2029 Fields/Jones/Love/etc

Yes, my worst nightmare is that the team is not sold and PCJS "run it back for one more year!" until PC is 85.

I just hope I live long enough to see the next iteration of the Seahawks.

Matches my thoughts exactly

 

[Ozzy]

Cousins is washed. If you've watched anything this year, he is turning into a shell of his former self, and that's prior to this new injury.

Wasn’t cousins having a great year before getting hurt?

 

[CactusJack]

Wasn’t cousins having a great year before getting hurt?

Cousins was playing lights out before the injury.

 

[TwilightError]

If PCJS had any intention of drafting a QB with a legitimate shot to be the QBOTF, they would have done so in the 2023 draft. I was really hopeful, and somewhat convinced, they would select one of my three choices. #1 Stroud, #2 Richardson, or #3 Levis. All three appear to have great potential as their skills are transferring to solid play in the NFL.

They could have easily moved up to get #1 or #2, and #3 was there with the 20 pick or even trading down to 32.

I am now convinced they will never draft a suitable QB. Instead, I think we'll see something along the lines of:

2024 Geno
2025 Lock
2026 Lock
2027 Fields/Jones/Love/etc
2028 Fields/Jones/Love/etc
2029 Fields/Jones/Love/etc

Yes, my worst nightmare is that the team is not sold and PCJS "run it back for one more year!" until PC is 85.

I just hope I live long enough to see the next iteration of the Seahawks.

This is my fear too. If they had an intention in drafting a QB, the most logical time was the 2023 draft. The timing and draft capital was there. I really wanted Richardson or Levis as I didn't think they had any shot at Stroud or Young, but the fact is they had no shot at Richardson either. They had two shots at drafting Levis and decided against it. On top of that, they now gave away next years 2nd rounder for a 10 game rental player, so it does not seem like they are stocking up in order to move up for a QB or being ready to pull the trigger if an opportunity rises.

The QBs we have at roster are OK bridge players, but as someone pointed out, that bridge leads nowhere.

As for 2024, they have no shot at Maye or Williams. Later there are at least Penix, Nix, Daniels, Ward, Rattler and Travis, if they all declare. But I don't see them pulling the trigger on any of those either. We are stuck with this, and it will not be enough even if they manage to build a full roster of competent players around it.

The Leonard Williams trade has got me give up with the hope of getting a cheap quality QB to develop, possibly even start. After last year, I was doubtful of that already but now it seems too unlikely.

There have been good points here about how the 1st round QB has not made the difference for a lot of teams. But every successful team has a special player at that position and it´s hard to get above mediocrity without it. Avoiding picking a guy seems like a scared strategy. Any pick can go wrong, not just QB picks, but somehow that seems to be what they are afraid of.

Maybe we get another journeyman. Meh.

 

[GemCity]

You keep saying we could have easily moved up, but I don't believe that is the case. We were not going to give up what the Panthers did (the package was too much) and both the Texans and Colts got who they coveted and would not have traded out. That leaves Arizona. You believe that they would have traded with us? Why would they trade with their in division rival so we would be able to draft (the only other first round QB was Richardson) a QBOTF? Richardson is a two year project and would not have been worth the package of picks it would have taken.

Levis is an interesting situation. Definitely has some attributes and talent, but did not play well last year. Everyone says, the talent around him was poor, but they also say they want a QB that elevates the talent around him. Can't have it both ways. We also didn't get a shot at him in the second round as he went six picks before us.

 

[CallMeADawg]

Penix from UW.

 

[WarHawks]

Geno only signed on for 3 years with a ton of incentives. The way the deal is structured says otherwise. If they we're truly sold on him as the long-term starter/future. Then he would have been given a longer term deal with more guaranteed money.

Pete isn't going to do anything but back Geno at this point. Because he doesn't want to create a media storm & put added pressure on Geno. He really has no other option than to back him publicly.

So yes, you're overreacting.

If John & Pete have an opportunity (near future) to upgrade at the position, they will. But until that time they will continue to fully back both Geno & Drew. As they should.

And we will continue to wallow in mediocrity if they don't upgrade the position somehow.

 

[fenderbender123]

Penix is an interesting debate for sure. He's been with DeBoer so long, so he is just a REALLY good system QB.

Or does he transcend a system and make him a viable NFL QB? He definitely has the arm and accuracy, and he's tough and smart. So I do think he's going to make a good NFL QB. Health and weird throwing delivery would be the negatives for me. Got a weird side arm action.

But it's an interesting discussion for sure.

One thing to keep in mind, Penix plays in a full-on NFL style offense. That will translate well.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Penix is also NAILS when the game is on the line. In fact, he ups his game in the 4th quarter and OT.

 

[Rat]

Penis is also NAILS when the game is on the line. In fact, he ups his game in the 4th quarter and OT.

Auto-correct or Freudian Slip?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Auto Correct for sure, but damn, that's pretty funny
I've seen some pretty good shirts at the games. Stuff like Big Penix, or Our Penix is bigger than yours etc.

Penis is nails..........oh man, t-shirt time

 

[Rat]

I think it'd be hilarious to see people wearing shirts referring to him as "The Pennix Mightier".

I'll now prepare myself to feel old and lame for when nobody gets that reference.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

The Pennix Mightier than your Sword? Has a nice ring to it.

 

[Bear-Hawk]

Seahawks won’t be drafting in the top-10, so Penix, Williams, Maye are not available unless you’re willing to trade your #1 pick in 2025 plus a stud player to move up. That’s what the Panthers gave up for Bryce Young. It would be shocking if Seahawks do that. It isn’t necessary. It is entirely possible to find your next QB in the second round or later. But you DO have to take your shot at it when you see a promising prospect.

 

[WarHawks]

I'm curious if people's opinions about Bo Nix would be different if they had beaten the Huskies?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

But he didn't. I still think he's damn good. Just not as good as Penix. And yes, I'm a diehard Husky fan.

 

[AnimeAmore]

And we will continue to wallow in mediocrity if they don't upgrade the position somehow.

This is what the Hawks need to understand. Next year Geno will be a year older with more wear and tear. At what point are they basically pinning all their hopes on building an elite team - minus QB - like the Ravens did with Dilfer?
QB is the most important position in all of team sports, and it increasingly appears as though they are ok with mediocrity at QB.

 

[AnimeAmore]

It is entirely possible to find your next QB in the second round

Which is why so many of us are mad that the Hawks literally threw away a possible chance at QBOTF by trading for a 10 game rental. You can't find your QB in the 2nd round if you aren't drafting in the 2nd round.

 

[Bear-Hawk]

Which is why so many of us are mad that the Hawks literally threw away a possible chance at QBOTF by trading for a 10 game rental. You can't find your QB in the 2nd round if you aren't drafting in the 2nd round.

Yeah, if you trade a second round pick for a guy, he’d better be worth a sizeable contract extension. The Bears just gave Sweat a $98 million contract. Now I just hope he’s not like Claypool. That was a high second round pick for nothing.

 

[themunn]

Which is why so many of us are mad that the Hawks literally threw away a possible chance at QBOTF by trading for a 10 game rental. You can't find your QB in the 2nd round if you aren't drafting in the 2nd round.

How is it that you think that without a 2nd round pick we can't draft the QBOTF?

To move from 9th to 1st, "Chicago traded a first-round selection (1st) to Carolina in exchange for WR D. J. Moore, first- and second-round selections (9th and 61st), 2024 first-round and 2025 second-round selections."

To move from 12th to third "Arizona traded first- and fourth-round selections (3rd and 105th overall) to Houston in exchange for first- and second-round selections (12th and 33rd overall), and 2024 first- and third-round selections."

Given we are likely going to be picking in the lower 12 range, AT THE VERY LEAST we are going to have to trade 2024, 2025 and 2026 first round picks if you want to get into the top 10, a 2nd round pick in the 50-64 range isn't going to move the needle. And if you think the QBOTF will be available in the 2nd round? Well we can just trade down with our 1st round pick right?