Me3 says there’s a problem with the 3rd quarter

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The athletic broke down why even scheme help won’t help me3 Per x And o analysis.

Unpaywalled archive here https://archive.ph/Y6hJO

Good article. When I looked at that last play right before OT where he didn't see the middle receiver, that is pretty much the same throw Josh Allen made yesterday in that situation to set up the game winning FG.
 

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Me3 Thanksgiving, good looking family and certainly dressed for occasion. Quite sure she meant her fans have been amazing, his may not be so much.

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I assume that must be Ciara posing with the family, I don't recognize her with her clothes on..
She give a politicians speech only rivaled by Me3..
Their moto, when life gives you lemons, check your bank account and smile..
 

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In the trade with the Broncos, we effectively upgraded our qb play to the best it's been in Pete's tenure... and in Lock, snagged a backup that was one of , if not the best qb Denver has had since Peyton Manning - even if based partly on potential.

In other words, we got a bona-fide starter and a Denver starter and gave them a qb who is arguably the worst they've had in recent memory.

Slow clap... savor it.
 

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In the trade with the Broncos, we effectively upgraded our qb play to the best it's been in Pete's tenure... and in Lock, snagged a backup that was one of , if not the best qb Denver has had since Peyton Manning - even if based partly on potential.

In other words, we got a bona-fide starter and a Denver starter and gave them a qb who is arguably the worst they've had in recent memory.

Slow clap... savor it.

Russell Wilson is Shaun Alexander 2.0. A decent player that was able to put up HOF like numbers due to coaching and extenuating circumstances. I think their legacies will be viewed the same when it's all set and done.
 

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Russell Wilson is Shaun Alexander 2.0. A decent player that was able to put up HOF like numbers due to coaching and extenuating circumstances. I think their legacies will be viewed the same when it's all set and done.

Agree, but Alexander never burned bridges the way 3andOut has. He never created a climate where he was perceived as a fraud (now on and off the field). I think in jettesoning Russ, Wilson sank his legacy while PC's was elevated considerably. I don't know that Russ will be able to recover if he continues at this pace. He will be forever known as (aside from the LOB and whatever the latest incarnation of Hawks become), Pete Caroll's greatest creation.
 

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I think Russ could get back to becoming a good QB if he played under a strong coach like a Holmgren or a Parcells. The coach has to be a "Alpha" for Russ to succeed. He has to have some sense of fear that he will be benched.
Hackett is the fall guy for Denver because he allowed Russ too much autonomy at first. Also, when you sign a guy for a quarter of a billion dollars it's hard to bench him or tell him what to do. Russ knows he's not going anywhere and the head coach will suffer the consequences. Russ will suffer fan outrage but he can blame coaching, O-linemen etc.
 
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I think Russ could get back to becoming a good QB if he played under a strong coach like a Holmgren or a Parcells. The coach has to be a "Alpha" for Russ to succeed. He has to have some sense of fear that he will be benched.
Hackett is the fall guy for Denver because he allowed Russ too much autonomy at first. Also, when you sign a guy for a quarter of a billion dollars it's hard to bench him or tell him what to do. Russ knows he's not going anywhere and the head coach will suffer the consequences. Russ will suffer fan outrage but he can blame coaching, O-linemen etc.

An alpha is not needed to bench Russ. With a backup like Lock, most coaches would have done so by now.

The Athletic article (I linked the free and legal archive Earlier) illustrates that the passing game concept is simple.

Wristband or no, when Russ gets the ball he has to make football decisions on whom to pass to accurately. Like “the ball just kinda went away from me“ is supposed to be an excuse?
 

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Except Shaun was a league MVP, can't take that away from him.
Get real. RW was the following:
Your comments on this board won't take away his accomplishments over the last decade, as much as you try.
I'm sure there are angry posters around painting Aaron Rodgers as a big career failure with a 4-7 record this year too.
 

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Get real. RW was the following:
Your comments on this board won't take away his accomplishments over the last decade, as much as you try.
I'm sure there are angry posters around painting Aaron Rodgers as a big career failure with a 4-7 record this year too.

The problem with the above list of 'accomplishments' is that it's obvious he attained those achievements because he was afforded an opportunity to thrive in a system where he actually didn't have to 'Learn' how to play football properly.
And now, in Denver, he's proving that not only is he not capable of playing the position on a fairly rudimentary level for the Broncos in terms of making reads and throws or even understanding situational football, but when the record is examined, it will be obvious that this is not a new development - the same errant reads, pack of adjustment... lack of football smarts was evident while he was here. And, wrapped in his own hubris, he's systematically alienating himself from anyone who'd defend him.

And worse... he's only getting started. Unless Denver cuts him, he retires, or another team is bonkers enough to trade for him, he's going to spend the next 26 months putting more film in the archives that looks like what he's laid down over the last 3 months. Every game he plays, he casts more doubt on what he ever was. That's not forum trolling. That's Me3.

And it will be nobody's fault but his.
 

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Get real. RW was the following:
Your comments on this board won't take away his accomplishments over the last decade, as much as you try.
I'm sure there are angry posters around painting Aaron Rodgers as a big career failure with a 4-7 record this year too.

And as much as I can't stand Rodgers, the dude is a bona-fide 1st ballot HOfer when he hangs it up.

But, like Russ, he too has hamstrung his team with his hubris and desire for the fat contract. There's no mystery there.

But to confuse Russell Wilson's struggles (or accomplishments), and abilities for Aaron Rodgers??? I mean its obvious how well Russ executes the offense Rodgers can run with his eyes closed...

Other than the stat sheet, and again, its plainly obvious now how significantly a simplified system played into Russ achieving what he did here, Aaron Ridgers and Russell Wilson aren't remotely in the same category of player. And that hurts to say.
 
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K, I wonder what would happen if they just gave Russ the Zach Wilson treatment.
 

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K, I wonder what would happen if they just gave Russ the Zach Wilson treatment.

I honestly wonder if in trading Chubb, they're hoping to package a 1st and Russ, plus an offer to eat half his guaranteed money for a package of picks.

More realistically, they're going to pick a qb to compete with him with their first rounder.
 
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I honestly wonder if in trading Chubb, they're hoping to package a 1st and Russ, plus an offer to eat half his guaranteed money for a package of picks.

More realistically, they're going to pick a qb to compete with him with their first rounder.

Thats what I thought too, but the 9ers pick is at 20. Im not sure that they get that guy to train that low in the first.

I do think that even if their backup is Rypien that they need to take action. You no longer get that office for you and team3. Whatever they are doing for you isn’t working.
 

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Get real. RW was the following:
Your comments on this board won't take away his accomplishments over the last decade, as much as you try.
I'm sure there are angry posters around painting Aaron Rodgers as a big career failure with a 4-7 record this year too.

If you must:
 
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I honestly wonder if in trading Chubb, they're hoping to package a 1st and Russ, plus an offer to eat half his guaranteed money for a package of picks.

More realistically, they're going to pick a qb to compete with him with their first rounder.
The more they play Me3, the lower the trade value. The best thing is to bench him,
 
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