Do you consider 1 championship with Wilson a disappointment?

[Somos doces]

I may be misinterpreting the question, but... no — I can't fathom a way winning an NFL title could be considered a disappointment.

 

[pittpnthrs]

The 30 for 30 will be called "The Dynasty that Never Was" of course it was a disappointment.

This

 

[Own The West]

The 30 for 30 will be called "The Dynasty that Never Was" of course it was a disappointment.

Had a friend point this out to me just a couple days ago. Missed it if it was ever linked on this site. Good read. Fade, you nailed it!

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As they grew into Super Bowl contenders, the Seahawks—especially the Legion of Boom defense—prided themselves on a ruthless internal competitiveness that lifted everyone and was the foundation of an NFL championship. But some former and current Seattle players say a growing rift developed, based...

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[jammerhawk]

It was really Bevell’s choice but Pete, Russ, and Lockette wore it. Bevell blamed everyone else.

 

[toffee]

Peyton Manning in Indy.

Drew Brees in New Orleans.

Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay.

Some of the greatest QB's in NFL history with long tenures on very good teams "only" won 1 Super Bowl with those teams.

What this tells me is that it's a hell of a lot harder to win championships than most fans realize or are willing to admit. Not only do you have to have a very good team, you also have to have a lot of things go your way.

It took damn near a miracle against Green Bay in the NFCCG for us to even get back to the Super Bowl the year after we won it all.

So no, I don't consider 1 championship with Wilson a disappointment. Quite the opposite actually. I feel like we are awfully fortunate to even have that 1.

are you sure Russell Wilson is in the same club with Manning, Brees and Rodgers?

 

[Smellyman]

Wilson isn't a carry a team to the super bowl QB, he is a great piece. The LOB getting hurt and old ane egotistical and RW was babied is the disappointment.

 

[Smellyman]

are you sure Russell Wilson is in the same club with Manning, Brees and Rodgers?

a tier down for sure

 

[GemCity]

If not for the manner in which we lost the 2nd one…no.

I still remember the adrenaline rush on our final drive. Bar filled with Pats fans in Anchorage Alaska. Me and one other Seahawks fan, just us two, strangers united by our love for the team.

Drunk, obnoxious, yelling “F U Tom Brady” the entire 4th quarter.

Long story short…I snuck out of the bathroom window. Still wonder ‘till this day if he got his ass beat that night.

Bad 12 moment for me indeed.

 

[toffee]

a tier down for sure

I am a Russell Wilson homer, but I don't think Russ belong in that exclusive club. Not yet anyways.

 

[olyfan63]

should have in 2012 but we could not hold the lead with only 20 seconds to go.

I always thought we should have instructed our DBs to tackle Falcons WRs in the area where it's a 5-yard holding 3 plays in a row, and then the clock runs out with Falcons not in FG range. Maybe that would be an interesting thread to get feedback on, would that have worked, or are there flaws that would make it fail, e.g., flag would be also thrown for Unsportsmanlike Conduct on each play this was done.

 

[olyfan63]

It was really Bevell’s choice but Pete, Russ, and Lockette wore it. Bevell blamed everyone else.

Yup, Pete just called for Pass, Bevell called brain-dead play on so many levels, then Bevell blamed Lockette instead of taking responsibility. Pete should have canned him over that the week after, for throwing Lockette under the bus.

Brain dead:
- Play design relied on Jerome Kearse manhandling Brandon Browner, 40lbs heavier than him.
- Play relied on WR5, Ricardo Lockette, not an NFL-quality WR, to make a huge play
- Play went over the middle, Wilson's weakest area, and highest risk of INT
- Didn't use Russell's best asset, his mobility. Why not roll him out to present threat of pass or run?

 

[Rainger]

Nope!

However, it would have been 2 if they'd given the ball to Lynch in SB 49 to close it out.

Don't agree. You cant predict or guarantee that Lynch would have scored. The box was stacked and Lynch had been stopped many many times with less than 1 yard that year.

A quick pass, a chance to get an incomplete or TD and still have a time out for 2 more runs was correct.

What was not correct was a forced passed behind the receiver and a play that Browner knew and told his players to look for.

Russ had a chance to throw in front with no over the top intercept, or bail and run or throw it away.

It was the right call percentage wise just the wrong execution!

 

[haroldseattle]

Really happy they won a SuperBowl. Pete did a nice job of building a great defense, strong running game and finding a QB that could do his part. Would been nice to win more SBs but you need a lot of things to go right and keeping that defense together was hard and Lynch playing style was hard to maintain so I’m not going to complain.

 

[pittpnthrs]

The 30 for 30 will be called "The Dynasty that Never Was" of course it was a disappointment.

Exactly. Winning only one wasnt a disappointment, it was a travesty.

 

[Jegpeg]

I am glad we got 1. Yes it was agonising to get so close against the Pats but we also had a lot of luck to get there.
Regarding the play itself I have no issue with a pass play being called, it might have been the wrong one, it was executed poorly but it was also great defense. If we had done the obvious of giving it to Lynch there is no guarantee it would have ended any better

 

[Lagartixa]

So if winning "just" one Super Bowl title (when nearly 40% of the teams in the league - 12 of 32 - have never won a Super Bowl) with Wilson was a disappointment for the Seahawks, how many Super Bowls do the Broncos have to win with Wilson for it not to be a disappointment?

Consider that Wilson is going to a team with what's now considered a top OL (we'll see if that's the perception after this season) and a strong team generally, and we hear around here all the time that Wilson is a top-five QB and a first-ballot HoFer, which he was not in 2012-2014. So how many "should" the Broncos win, with a strong defense, a top-five QB they gave up a lot of draft capital (and some players) to obtain, one of the top offensive lines in the game, and an "offense-minded" coach who people around here tell us will know how to tailor his offense to Wilson in a way Pete Carroll didn't all those years? Would "just one" Lombardi be a disappointment for the Broncos now?

 

[SeargentJ2/82]

Yes. Russ threw it but Pete called it.

Grateful but, overall characterized as a disappointment.

Russ could've changed the play and called a run for Lynch. Peyton would've, that's what separates those 2.

 

[fenderbender123]

Nah. It's hard to win a Super Bowl. We had to get lucky even in 2013 a few times just to get home field advantage for the playoffs.

2 super bowl appearances and 1 super bowl win during a 10 year career is really good for great quarterbacks, not to mention consistently being in the playoffs. The Terry Bradshaw's and Tom Brady's are a rare exception to the norm.

 

[BASF]

It is comical how much the Patriots broke the brains of some football fans. Winning the Super Bowl is ridiculously difficult. So many great players never even sniff one. The multiple time champions had serious advantages (Steelers amazing talent advantage, Niners system advantage and Patriots had a genius defensive coach and a QB actually willing to do everything to get better in a cupcake division) and most of them did not have the league actively working against them as the Seahawks. As soon as the league decided that the offense needed to be the highlight since casual fans want ninety point games, our style of play was sacrificed on the altar of ratings.

 

[Maelstrom787]

You'll all be a lot happier if you just let it go.

Sometimes, things just don't work out. SB49 was an example of things not working out. You can retrace every single step to assign blame, or you can come to the rational and adult conclusion that they just got beat and that there's a lot of responsibility to share for that.

No one would give a shit about the playcall had it worked, and it almost did. It's not like it's a terribly uncommon goal line play. It's not like it's low percentage. There's nothing unfathomable about it, other than just how far the ripple effect of the outcome spread.

I will say it again - sometimes in life, things just don't work out. And that's alright.