Does anyone else think Seattle won the trade?

[Own The West]

LOL Yeah, I was wr, wro, wro, Mistaken when speaking of a "Big market", it's more like a NEW "Market" with New folks to fleece+ I'm betting that he won't be losing too many Seattleite Fans.

Yeah, I don't know what the attraction to Denver is. Smaller, colder (which is a problem for him), and a bunch of rookies running the team: Elway and the GM are in new roles, and this is Hackett's first HC job. I don't think it's gonna be pretty.

We may know exactly who won this trade 12 months from now if they can't resign him. They better hope Daniel Jones balls out in NY this year...

 

[massari]

When Wilson lights it up in that brutal division, and if the Hawks fail at bringing in a competent QB, they'll lose the trade and ownership will be questioned as to why they chose the relic HC over the star QB. If their 1st round QB in 2023 turns into a pro bowl talent, they win!

 

[SeaWolv]

I think it's considered win-win for the first two years, and then people will be asking what the hell the Broncos were thinking when Russ ages like Ben Roethlisberger, particularly with Baker Mayfield playing at an All-Pro level.

I doubt the Hawks make that trade, it's more likely Carolina will.

 

[BASF]

Yeah, I don't know what the attraction to Denver is. Smaller, colder (which is a problem for him), and a bunch of rookies running the team: Elway and the GM are in new roles, and this is Hackett's first HC job. I don't think it's gonna be pretty.

We may know exactly who won this trade 12 months from now if they can't resign him. They better hope Daniel Jones balls out in NY this year...

Perhaps the attraction is the fact that they are new to positions and he can get his way far easier there than against a team that has suffered through his:
I am only going to throw the routes I want to throw
I am not going to try to read the defense especially the guy who will come free and throw to my hot read
I am going to manipulate the media by throwing everyone else under the bus without taking any culpability for the open receivers I keep not throwing to
when I am asked about it I am going to say that I know how to win and won't change my mindset

As far as the questions about not paying a pro bowl level QB more than fifty million dollars a year in our future, it may very well be that it will become necessary. However, there is a vast difference in paying a pro bowl QB that is in the prime of their careers and are running your offense as designed who take responsibility for his mistakes and paying Russell Wilson next offseason.

Of course we won the trade. As pointed out earlier, there were two choices. Trade Wilson or lose him next offseason for one comp pick. Five draft picks and three players are easily better than one comp pick.

 

[JPatera76]

JS already said russ or his camp stated he wasn't going to sign another contract for Seattle, So it makes sense that they shipped him off. Seattle won this trade. Russ was done here and didn't want to be here anymore. They already won by offloading a player who didn't want to be here anymore and it became clearer to them when he or his agent stated he wasn't signing a contract with Seattle anymore what the next logical move was.

Seattle won and as it seems Russ's act was getting stale with the front office and his fellow teammates as not one has said goodbye, good luck or see ya. Now we're seeing confidence with players talking about and seemingly excited about competition for spots at different positions. Something that we as fans haven't heard much about or from with teammates since roughly our 2nd super bowl. After the last .. 4-5 seasons id rather make it to the playoffs and win a few and advance then make it and be bounced out each year. Being 1 and done got old. This yr? maybe thew next couple years? Missing the playoffs completely, sweet okay whatever.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I thought we won the Adams trade at first too after that Falcons game where he had like three sacks and 15 tackles.

WAY to early to declare victory or defeat. Gonna take a year or two.

 

[nwHawk]

Russell’s first mini-camp pass as a Bronco… completed! Patrick Sertan Interception taken back for a touchdown. Heard it on 710 KIRO.

 

[onanygivensunday]

Had the trade not happened there was no way the Hawks were getting back to the SB anytime soon. The team got old and slow and was desperate for an infusion of youthful talent. Free agency wasn't an option. With Russ' contract, we didn't have the cap space to attract the premium FAs. All we could afford was aging vets at bargain prices. Our only hope was to re-build the team through the draft... and picking late in the 1st round just wasn't going to replace premium players at premium positions.

All indications were Russ wasn't going to re-sign here. The Wilson trade was the only alternative that offered a brighter horizon.

 

[Ruminator]

Had the trade not happened there was no way the Hawks were getting back to the SB anytime soon. The team got old and slow and was desperate for an infusion of youthful talent. Free agency wasn't an option. With Russ' contract, we didn't have the cap space to attract the premium FAs. All we could afford was aging vets at bargain prices. Our only hope was to re-build the team through the draft... and picking late in the 1st round just wasn't going to replace premium players at premium positions.

All indications were Russ wasn't going to re-sign here. The Wilson trade was the only alternative that offered a brighter horizon.

And this is exactly why the trade was entirely worth it for Seattle.

 

[jammerhawk]

At this point this situation looks good for both teams. However, long term I think the Hawks look like they could make out well from this presuming they remain patient and have another solid draft. Denver might rethink their situation when they are forced to pay RW $50 mil/yr. guaranteed.

My answer is it's too soon to say but things could be looking good for my team.

 

[nwHawk]

If Russ was such a stud QB, why didn’t Seattle attract any premium free agent WRs the past 5 years? Don’t blame Pete.

 

[onanygivensunday]

Here's another reason why the Hawks made the right decision.

The Rams, 49ers, and the Cardinals all traded away their 1st round picks in this year's draft. And the Rams and 49ers did as well in 2023 while the Hawks doubled up in 2022 and will double up again in 2023.

The Hawks are stocking the pantry with youthful talent while the rest of the division is not. It may take a couple of years to fully take advantage of, but that day will come.

 

[toffee]

If Russ was such a stud QB, why didn’t Seattle attract any premium free agent WRs the past 5 years? Don’t blame Pete.

Russ did want more decision making power on team personnel matters, but here is the thing, we have Lockett, DK, and Everette .... not like he had no one to throw to?

 

[toffee]

Russell’s first mini-camp pass as a Bronco… completed! Patrick Sertan Interception taken back for a touchdown. Heard it on 710 KIRO.

Sertan better not shout "you suck" like Sherm lol. Jokes aside, Russ has been a very accurate QB.

 

[Lagartixa]

Russell’s first mini-camp pass as a Bronco… completed! Patrick Sertan Interception taken back for a touchdown. Heard it on 710 KIRO.

Not just completed, but for a TD!

If we look at it in that light, Wilson also threw the title-clinching pass in Super Bowl XLIX.

 

[Lagartixa]

Russell’s first mini-camp pass as a Bronco… completed! Patrick Sertan Interception taken back for a touchdown. Heard it on 710 KIRO.

I'll be scanning Seahawks.NET for an explanation of how this is actually Pete Carroll's fault. There are at least three individuals here who wouldn't surprise me at all with such a statement.

 

[Scout]

Denver wins if they can reach the playoffs and win a playoff game. It shows they can build something with Wilson.

Failure to win a playoff game isn't going to be enough IMO given how many young QBs are emerging in the AFC. The window of opportunity for Denver is the next two seasons.

A lot of the teams in the AFC with young QBs have already been given the massive contracts or soon will. Or they are still on rookie deals. Meaning these teams still have draft capital to off set the mega deals and still build talent around young franchise QBs (eg Chiefs).

Denver is in a pickle because they lack draft capital to build talent ahead of the massive contract that is coming in 2024.

 

[nwHawk]

Russ did want more decision making power on team personnel matters, but here is the thing, we have Lockett, DK, and Everette .... not like he had no one to throw to?

I’d say he was publicly lobbying for big name receivers to join him, but none did. So, the question is why not?

 

[Jerhawk]

It really all hinges on if the Broncos win the Superbowl. That was the whole point of them acquiring him, because they felt QB was the missing piece to their team.

If the Broncos win the Superbowl with Wilson while he's there, they clearly won. And Pete and John will look like fools for trading their franchise QB for spare parts and not satisfying him.

If they don't win the Superbowl, then it really hinges on how the assets the Seahawks acquired pan out. The Broncos won't look as smart for trading a ton of assets for a QB that couldn't get the job done, and Pete and John can sleep better at night.

So it's really way too early to be asking this question. We will revisit in a couple years and see what's transpired then.

In the short term, the Broncos have won the trade because now they're competitive, and the Seahawks are not.

Lastly, some of your opinions and evaluation on Wilson are so far off the mark it's laughable. Some of you guys sound like a jealous ex bad mouthing their former lover after a breakup, pointing out little faults here and there when in reality, you're depressed you're not together.

Wilson did a lot of great things here, and he has a lot of great football left in him (barring injury). Nitpicking on his weaknesses and ignoring his strengths is petty.

 

[toffee]

It really all hinges on if the Broncos win the Superbowl. That was the whole point of them acquiring him, because they felt QB was the missing piece to their team.

If the Broncos win the Superbowl with Wilson while he's there, they clearly won. And Pete and John will look like fools for trading their franchise QB for spare parts and not satisfying him.

If they don't win the Superbowl, then it really hinges on how the assets the Seahawks acquired pan out. The Broncos won't look as smart for trading a ton of assets for a QB that couldn't get the job done, and Pete and John can sleep better at night.

So it's really way too early to be asking this question. We will revisit in a couple years and see what's transpired then.

In the short term, the Broncos have won the trade because now they're competitive, and the Seahawks are not.

Lastly, some of your opinions and evaluation on Wilson are so far off the mark it's laughable. Some of you guys sound like a jealous ex bad mouthing their former lover after a breakup, pointing out little faults here and there when in reality, you're depressed you're not together.

Wilson did a lot of great things here, and he has a lot of great football left in him (barring injury). Nitpicking on his weaknesses and ignoring his strengths is petty.

Well said!!