Ranking Every NFL Team's QB Situation Heading into 2022 Season

[toffee]

This report listed Geno as our starting QB, and ranked us #32. Interestingly, Zach Wilson's Jet is #28, Jared Goff*s Lions at 26, Trevor Lawrence's Jag at 23, Trey Lance's 9ers at 22, Mac Jones and NE at 22, Russ at #8.

 

[sutz]

Not surprising. Whoever our starter is, he'll have something to prove, as will our young OC.

 

[toffee]

Not surprising. Whoever our starter is, he'll have something to prove, as will our young OC.

Our rookie tackles and RB will be under microscope too.

 

[flv2]

Link needed.

 

[toffee]

Link needed.

For whatever reason, the link was converted into media=bleacherreport 39893, and just disppeared. It's a bleachreport article by GARY DAVENPORT

 

[flv2]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2956601-ranking-every-nfl-teams-qb-situation-heading-into-2022-season

 

[Rainger]

This report listed Geno as our starting QB, and ranked us #32. Interestingly, Zach Wilson's Jet is #28, Jared Goff*s Lions at 26, Trevor Lawrence's Jag at 23, Trey Lance's 9ers at 22, Mac Jones and NE at 22, Russ at #8.

All these ranking things are just click bait. Not much in them. The people who make them up are the same people who said the Hawks got an F for the 2012 draft. It is all just pontificating shit.

Also Bleacher Reports is some of the worst crap almost rivaling ESPN for stupidity.

 

[AROS]

Any one of us could produce our own rankings and it would be just as valid as this list. Click bait in the dog days of the offseason.

Wake me when it's Training Camp.

 

[Recon_Hawk]

Give me Smith and Lock over Jared Goff's $31M cap hit.

 

[Lagartixa]

Give me Smith and Lock over Jared Goff's $31M cap hit.

I thought the Seahawks paid Smith a little too much, but Smith for $3.5M, with just $0.5M of that guaranteed, looks like the bargain of the century compared to JaGoff for $31M.

 

[Rat]

That's probably fair, given that neither Lock nor Smith have been anything better than terrible when given snaps. I'd like to believe they'll end next season much higher, but for now it's more "wait and see" than any situation in the league.

I'd still take our guys over what the Lions, Giants, and Texans have going though. Probably the Panthers too; I do like Corral, but wow would it be rough paying Darnold what he's getting. Also, the Browns, because I don't care how good Watson is, I would no longer be a Seahawks fan if we had signed him.

 

[toffee]

That's probably fair, given that neither Lock nor Smith have been anything better than terrible when given snaps. I'd like to believe they'll end next season much higher, but for now it's more "wait and see" than any situation in the league.

I'd still take our guys over what the Lions, Giants, and Texans have going though. Probably the Panthers too; I do like Corral, but wow would it be rough paying Darnold what he's getting. Also, the Browns, because I don't care how good Watson is, I would no longer be a Seahawks fan if we had signed him.

Based on the track record of Geno and Lock, rating us #32 is reasonable, no need to attack the credibility of ESPN's writer.

We are in a gap year, these two should do. If one of these two surprised us with a great breakout year, we have real nice problem, if they don't we are drafting or signing a franchise QB next off season.

 

[BASF]

Based on the track record of Geno and Lock, rating us #32 is reasonable, no need to attack the credibility of ESPN's writer.

We are in a gap year, these two should do. If one of these two surprised us with a great breakout year, we have real nice problem, if they don't we are drafting or signing a franchise QB next off season.

If Smith has a break out year, I still want to draft the QB of the future next season. Smith at thirty-two this season will not be our QB1 for long.

 

[flv2]

Give me Smith and Lock over Jared Goff's $31M cap hit.

Cap hits aren't important. What a team is actually paying a player is what's important. Cap hits are merely how teams account for their player payments. As if by way of example the Lions will get more out of Goff's $31M cap hit this year than the Seahawks will get out of Wilson's $26M cap hit. Goff is actually going to be paid $26.15M this year, and no-one here is arguing his being poor value for money.

 

[Lagartixa]

Cap hits do matter because cap money is a significantly more scarce resource (that can't even be replenished in certain cases) than team revenue. NFL teams are obscenely profitable, in part because of the salary cap. That's why team valuations keep rising at absurd rates. How much a team is actually paying in cash for players is not a big deal for the business side, because there is such a gigantic margin after all the operational costs are paid. Basically, there's always more cash available.
However, the salary cap is subject to strict rules and a franchise can very easily put itself in a position where it can't put a contender on the field for a few years because of bad salary-cap decisions. Giving a 35-year-old quarterback a fully guaranteed five-year, $250M contract, for example, could do that.
The Lions could afford to pay Goff a lot more than $26M in cash, even though it would be a terrible investment. They'd have the cash if his 2022 salary and bonuses were twice that. But that $31.5M cap hit is a big, big deal, because it's 14.3% of the team's whole cap for its entire 53-man roster (just the top 51 until the season starts, but at that point, it covers the 53), spent on a single player who just isn't exceptionally good. That harms the team in terms of competitiveness. Not fielding a competitive team can hurt the organization's finances a lot, because on-the-field success is an important driver of team revenues.

 

[Recon_Hawk]

Cap hits aren't important. What a team is actually paying a player is what's important. Cap hits are merely how teams account for their player payments. As if by way of example the Lions will get more out of Goff's $31M cap hit this year than the Seahawks will get out of Wilson's $26M cap hit. Goff is actually going to be paid $26.15M this year, and no-one here is arguing his being poor value for money.

I'll have to disagree. The NFL GM world lives in the cap hit (accrual) method of accounting. It's the most important. The article is arguing for the current 2022 season, Goff and his $31M cap hit for 2022 is a better solution than Geno and Drew. Goff's usage of a finite amount of cap space impacts their current roster. Last year or next year's cash flow isn't relevant to a GM putting together a team this year with cap limitations, so you have to look at it relative to the cap hit they bring vs their market value in the year they are playing. Pretty simple.

 

[ryank24]

If cap hits matter in this discussion, I would think the $26m in dead money due to Russel Wilson would figure into that equation. That will go away next season, but as of right now there's a fair amount of the cap being eaten up by QBs.

 

[Recon_Hawk]

If cap hits matter in this discussion, I would think the $26m in dead money due to Russel Wilson would figure into that equation. That will go away next season, but as of right now there's a fair amount of the cap being eaten up by QBs.

That's one way to measure it, for sure. Trading Russ came with a $26M dead cap hit, but it also brought a return of value. Multiple players and multiple picks. Should Seattle's current QB position take the whole hit for the trade of Russ, but other positions get to gain from it without any adjustments? I would think the correct way is to allocate a portion of Russel's cap hit to every positional group acquired from the trade, so QB, TE, DE, DT, OL, future draft picks?...it gets complicated.

IMO, a dead cap amount caused by a trade is a stand alone issue that should be considered as a part of the overall trade value, especially since the cap hit of the trading team is most likely considered when figuring the value to ask for or give up.

 

[scutterhawk]

Based on the track record of Geno and Lock, rating us #32 is reasonable, no need to attack the credibility of ESPN's writer.

We are in a gap year, these two should do. If one of these two surprised us with a great breakout year, we have real nice problem, if they don't we are drafting or signing a franchise QB next off season.

Exactly how I've been looking at it also ^
And even if we're pleasantly surprised by Smith or Lock's play, I say we'll likely still get our Quarterback of the future in next years Draft.

 

[ryank24]

That's one way to measure it, for sure. Trading Russ came with a $26M dead cap hit, but it also brought a return of value. Multiple players and multiple picks. Should Seattle's current QB position take the whole hit for the trade of Russ, but other positions get to gain from it without any adjustments? I would think the correct way is to allocate a portion of Russel's cap hit to every positional group acquired from the trade, so QB, TE, DE, DT, OL, future draft picks?...it gets complicated.

IMO, a dead cap amount caused by a trade is a stand alone issue that should be considered as a part of the overall trade value, especially since the cap hit of the trading team is most likely considered when figuring the value to ask for or give up.

That's a good point. That $26m was effectively used for Charles Cross, Boye Mafe, Noah Fant, Shelby Harris, Drew Lock, and one more player in the first round of next year's draft. So it's not quite so black and white.

Even if there was a great way to account for all of that, there aren't very many teams I'd try to argue belong below the hawks on that list right now.

In my opinion, it's impossible to truly judge the hawks situation because that position has so much uncertainty. We've seen Geno so we have an idea what we'd get out of him, we don't know who will start between Geno and Lock, and we don't know if Lock actually has any upside in this offense. But most importantly, trading Russ this year landed us another first round pick next year which will likely go towards filling that QB position long term. So while the long term answer at QB probably isn't on the roster right now...2 first round picks next year in a draft that supposedly has lots of talent at QB likely factors into the current plan for the position.