Okay - seriously. WTF is the global plan here.

[CalgaryFan05]

I should be more articulate - but jesus.

C'mon PC/JS - what the **** is the plan. Just get rid of everyone except adams with no replacements?

Something better be simmering in the pot. Otherwise we're gonna be eating pig slop this year.

Knew it was rebuilding year - but for **** sakes - REBUILD something! Draft isn't gonna save everything if we just get boned and raped in FA?

Who's gonna be left if DK bails for the Ravens.

I know it's early - but throw me a bone.

 

[CostaRicaHawk]

What are you even talking about??

 

[Maelstrom787]

I should be more articulate - but jesus.

C'mon PC/JS - what the **** is the plan. Just get rid of everyone except adams with no replacements?

Something better be simmering in the pot. Otherwise we're gonna be eating pig slop this year.

Knew it was rebuilding year - but for **** sakes - REBUILD something! Draft isn't gonna save everything if we just get boned and raped in FA?

Who's gonna be left if DK bails for the Ravens.

I know it's early - but throw me a bone.

You knew it was the first year of a rebuild, yet demand instant gratification before the first draft of this (supposedly expected) rebuild?

That's bold. Seems like you've set yourself up for torment.

 

[Maelstrom787]

We've been so spoiled that we've collectively forgotten what rebuilds feel like.

 

[massari]

With all the old vet signings, it doesn't seem like a rebuild. A rebuild would be to spend the cap minimum to rollover as much cap space as possible, and tank for a top draft pick to get your franchise QB.

They are shaping up to be an 8 win team with a couple more additions.

 

[TwistedHusky]

This is a team built to look like it is just missing a few pieces, when in reality a lot of key spots are aging vets. And the key pieces missing are hard to find and unlikely to manifest beyond average ranked replacements.

It isn't intended to win beyond basically an above .500 but barely playoff-caliber team. It is intended to be able to make excuses easier.

 

[Spin Doctor]

We've been so spoiled that we've collectively forgotten what rebuilds feel like.

This isn't a rebuild though, they're signing a bunch of aging vets -- therein lies the problem. This team has a lot of holes and we're approaching the situation like we're going to be competitive. It would have been the perfect opportunity to blow up the roster, especially since we're switching defensive schemes.

It feels like we're trying to plug up the holes on a sinking ship. This roster needed to be blown up with the exception of young, core talent.

 

[Maelstrom787]

This isn't a rebuild though, they're signing a bunch of aging vets -- therein lies the problem. This team has a lot of holes and we're approaching the situation like we're going to be competitive. It would have been the perfect opportunity to blow up the roster, especially since we're switching defensive schemes.

It feels like we're trying to plug up the holes on a sinking ship. This roster needed to be blown up with the exception of young, core talent.

I don't see them signing many aging vets to anything other than simple short-term hole-filler contracts. Rebuilding doesn't necessarily mean tanking. I'm not seeing any long-term investments that could quickly hamstring the team.

 

[Appyhawk]

We need to wait and see what things look like after the draft. But regardless of the draft winning 8 games out of 17 seems like a rather optimistic outlook to me. I'm an optimist but finding 8 wins on the schedule we play this year is a tall mountain to climb.

 

[Msfann]

I really haven't said much since the Wilson trade. But I really don't get what the team is doing right now, its like they are saying the D will be so great and the run game will be great that a QB isn't a priority anymore and they can just plug any dipshit in at QB and the Seahawks will be awesome and everything will be fine.

 

[Somos doces]

Everyone here is just a fan — nobody knows what the team is doing. Just try to have a little

 

[hgwellz12]

We're putting our "rebuild" on layaway. By the time everything comes together, we will have an entire new coaching staff and philosophy and will be doing this same dance all over again. Someone else said it perfectly: The Seahawks are a glorified farm team for the NFL.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Seems like someone needs a hug

 

[Sgt. Largent]

The National Football League is an American domestic professional sport, not global.

 

[Fade]

With all the old vet signings, it doesn't seem like a rebuild. A rebuild would be to spend the cap minimum to rollover as much cap space as possible, and tank for a top draft pick to get your franchise QB.

They are shaping up to be an 8 win team with a couple more additions.

With the Division they play in, I'm having a hard time seeing 8 wins.

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To the OP:

Pete's plan is keep doin' what their doin'. Business as usual minus a Franchise QB based on how they've handled Free Agency so far.

Pete laid it out in his presser a few weeks ago. He's not adapting to the modern NFL, but doubling down on his beliefs on what wins football games.

Despite the diminishing returns it has wrought.

All they need to do now is trade down and out of the draft taking a "who the hell is this guy!" With their 1st pick.

And this off-season will suddenly be eerily similar to the previous 8 off-seasons.

 

[Mix]

This isn't a rebuild though, they're signing a bunch of aging vets -- therein lies the problem. This team has a lot of holes and we're approaching the situation like we're going to be competitive. It would have been the perfect opportunity to blow up the roster, especially since we're switching defensive schemes.

It feels like we're trying to plug up the holes on a sinking ship. This roster needed to be blown up with the exception of young, core talent.

You sign vets so you can still be competitive. Competitiveness makes young players better. Thinking that just throwing young guys and rookies in there that are not ready as a great pathway to team or individual success is why the Browns are the Browns, and not the Patriots. You develop young core talent around veteran leaders.

It applies to almost all Teaching professions, and remember what a Coach really is.

A coach is someone who trains a person or team of people in a particular sport.

"Your veterans are the players you count on because you know who they are. They’re more reliable and provide certain intangibles in key moments that only come with experience. Oftentimes, vets are the anchor of your team, whether they’re your team’s superstar or a role player. Having a cagey veteran is like having a second coach on the field, court or ice, as they’re able to guide other members of your team, call plays and maintain order. When your long-term players know your system, style and habits inside-and-out, they very rarely let you down."

"Veterans are the heart of your team."

"Rookies are a completely different story. Rookies bring a spark and excitement to your team that veterans simply cannot, as they are somewhat of a wild card. You’re never really certain what you have with a rookie until they get actual playing time, but the influx of new energy and enthusiasm is vital to keeping your team’s edge. And there are some advantages that all rookies bring to the table."

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[FrodosFinger]

With the Division they play in, I'm having a hard time seeing 8 wins.

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To the OP:

Pete's plan is keep doin' what their doin'. Business as usual minus a Franchise QB based on how they've handled Free Agency so far.

Pete laid it out in his presser a few weeks ago. He's not adapting to the modern NFL, but doubling down on his beliefs on what wins football games.

Despite the diminishing returns it has wrought.

All they need to do now is trade down and out of the draft taking a "who the hell is this guy!" With their 1st pick.

And this off-season will suddenly be eerily similar to the pre

If Schneider and Pete's 111-63-1 record, five division titles, two NFC championships, and a Super Bowl title is bad I'd hate to see what your rendition of good drafting is. You're not going to hit on every pick but he's been the second best drafter league wide in terms of production since coming to Seattle

 

[TwistedHusky]

We will see.

I don't think Carroll is capable or competent anymore to field a playoff-caliber team in this division.

I do think we will see plenty of excuses made for him.

There is a belief that balance is important for a football team. That used to be true. But it also used to be true that teams that shot too many 3 pointers could not win NBA championships because the game slowed down in the playoffs. Things change.

Right now the numbers say you need to pass 2x more than you run. The balance comes from the end of the game where you need to run the ball to salt the game away. So winning teams run the ball because they are winning, they don't win because they run the ball.

Not running the ball doesn't work, you just turn into those recent Steelers teams. But you only need to run the ball enough to keep the passing game solid. You don't run the ball to set up the pass or something stupid like that. The rules work against you that way. You run the ball enough to keep the LBs off your QB and off your receivers - that is probably a one in 4 or even one in five circumstance. You also run in short-yardage, but that can and should often be RO as well.

Eventually, the shift to passing first/passing most will lead to more spread out defenses and lighter defenders so that running is viable again. But right now, the rules make it much harder to be competitive as a good running team if you are not a great passing team. Especially in the playoffs. You can average 4 yds a carry, and still find it isn't enough (See the Browns a few years ago, see the 49ers, etc.)

Pete doesn't understand this. And frankly, I think he is so old he CAN'T understand it because I don't think he is capable of meaningfully learning and changing in a changed NFL. He is maybe shifting to 3-4. But that is about the end of his ability to adjust or come up with anything new.

 

[KinesProf]

I think it is an attempt to try to do it all over again, starting from a "2010" type of place.

Except, I would argue that right now they are in a better position from a roster talent and asset situation. maybe cap as well (don't recall their cap situation in 2010) than they were in 2010. The only players of any significance that they inherited then were Unger, Mebane, Ryan, Bryant.

They need to do more shrewd steps along the way, in that Lynch, Clemons, Washington, Browner vain. Big time returns on minimal initial cost. The Quandre and Sid trades hopefully represent moves in that direction.

And I guess with the aim to time ascending/peaking with a new QB as the likes of Brady and Rodgers depart, and as Stafford/Donald slow down.

 

[AgentDib]

The important part of the rebuild is adding draft capital and then spending that draft capital on young players. That is what sets your franchise up to have a strong base of talent.

Tanking for a pick is more of a personal preference from fans with a really low discount rate. It makes sense if you're not paying to go to a bunch of games this season and can pick your interest level back up a year from now. I wouldn't like it personally, and it isn't required to add good talent.

Remember that Carroll brought in some old vets back in 2010 - Brandon Stokley, Lawyer Milloy, Raheem Brock- mainly to provide leadership. "Ruining" our 2011 draft pick by making the playoffs worked out OK too, because we still drafted nine players and had good outcomes on five of those picks.

There's still plenty of room for them to ruin this off-season by trading all these picks for Kirk Cousins on draft day or something. However, the rebuild is going well so far.