OkieHawk
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taz291819":3mmcwvhz said:In Eli's defense, that was more of Archie Manning's doing with San Diego.
Never come to Eli's defense. You are correct about it being Archie though.
taz291819":3mmcwvhz said:In Eli's defense, that was more of Archie Manning's doing with San Diego.
Scottemojo":htqldlrf said:I think Geno flops big time.
Recon_Hawk":2asgmb12 said:First off, let me say I respect your opinion OP but I have to disagree with it.
To begin with, this sounds pretty familiar to the talk about Ryan Mallett.
Mallett, a good QB on the field (and white, btw), was rumored and accused by fans and the media of heavy drug use, a self-centered attitude, and questionable leadership.
Some proposed there was truth to these reports, but fans of his on the field talents quickly defended his reputation, suggesting it was media speculation and without proof. Turns out teams had the same causes of concern (or facts on the matter) as multiple teams passed on Mallett and he dropped into the 3rd round.
And now with Geno, it's the same fanboy, close-minded attitude in that the media is "speculating" to create news (no matter how much proof is given), and, oh yeah, thats play the "it's because he's black" argument, too (which makes no sense for this particular draft. In those same articles "speculating" that Smith fell because of his poor leadership skills, they "speculate" that EJ Manuel was selected so high, because of his leadership skills! See? How can that be if the media is unfairly portraying black QBs?)
I think the truth lies in how much we want to believe in the college prospects we've loved watching the past few years. We make excuses for our favorite players to protect them and our opinions instead of admitting that maybe the media (and teams) knows something we don't. Maybe we got it wrong.
RolandDeschain":2e98u3sv said:If I were a GM and drafted a QB in the 1st round and he sat out, demanding to be traded, I'd be sorely tempted to make that petulant child sit for the full four years on the bench as a lesson.
I do not and never will agree with what Eli and Elway did.