Wilson losing his luster.

[hawkfannj]

I have said this in several other threads, but Wilson absolutely needs to step up his game when it comes to presnap reads. The Lions spent all game sending corners, safeties, and linebackers off the edges. Their defense was playing aggressive, yet we were not able to punish them when they played aggressively. Wilson needs to be able to recognize the blitz, and have a hot read, or adjust the protection/ play into something more suitable to the situation. You have more guys coming at you than your line can block you are going to have issues, unless you can punish the defense when they play aggressively like that. We did not punish the Lions when they used this strategy, instead we rewarded them with stalled drives, and fumbles.

The Rams, and the Bears also employed a similar strategy against the Hawks'. I also must say that the clear weak point on this line is Britt. He played an awful, awful game and was blown up on multiple occasions both in the running, and passing games. Coleman had a dreadful game as a run blocker and pass blocker. Coleman got schooled on those edge blitzes.

Doesn't matter if Wilson sets more protection, you just stated in the second paragraph of why. We don't have a good O-line period to handle calls. Did anyone else notice when Wilson saw the edge blitz he even called protection for it, even pointed at the guy, but guess what no one picked that guy up and he got sacked. So keep blaming it all on Wilson, besides the fumbles, he had a great game and he did it all on his own. If your guy Luck turns the ball over - it's because he has to do it all on his own. Just give it a rest you will never never like Wilson, you can praise him in the future later and I will always remember that you don't like Wilson because your judgement of his personality helps contribute to it. For whatever reason you are jaded, almost like a scorn lover lol.

Wow and maybe you love him too much like a stalker

 

[hawkfannj]

Tell the Lion defenders who were trying to chase him down all night that he's losing his luster. Countless times last night the camera caught their looks of frustration & exasperation.

Well trying to catch him is great for a running back . Not the way I would want describe my that means he was running for his life . The o line is bad yes god awful but even gruden said something was wrong we were running the scramble drill every down .and when he did get protection he failed to read the D so is it all the oline ? I'd say most but surely not all

 

[theincrediblesok]

I have said this in several other threads, but Wilson absolutely needs to step up his game when it comes to presnap reads. The Lions spent all game sending corners, safeties, and linebackers off the edges. Their defense was playing aggressive, yet we were not able to punish them when they played aggressively. Wilson needs to be able to recognize the blitz, and have a hot read, or adjust the protection/ play into something more suitable to the situation. You have more guys coming at you than your line can block you are going to have issues, unless you can punish the defense when they play aggressively like that. We did not punish the Lions when they used this strategy, instead we rewarded them with stalled drives, and fumbles.

The Rams, and the Bears also employed a similar strategy against the Hawks'. I also must say that the clear weak point on this line is Britt. He played an awful, awful game and was blown up on multiple occasions both in the running, and passing games. Coleman had a dreadful game as a run blocker and pass blocker. Coleman got schooled on those edge blitzes.

Doesn't matter if Wilson sets more protection, you just stated in the second paragraph of why. We don't have a good O-line period to handle calls. Did anyone else notice when Wilson saw the edge blitz he even called protection for it, even pointed at the guy, but guess what no one picked that guy up and he got sacked. So keep blaming it all on Wilson, besides the fumbles, he had a great game and he did it all on his own. If your guy Luck turns the ball over - it's because he has to do it all on his own. Just give it a rest you will never never like Wilson, you can praise him in the future later and I will always remember that you don't like Wilson because your judgement of his personality helps contribute to it. For whatever reason you are jaded, almost like a scorn lover lol.

Wow and maybe you love him too much like a stalker

No but he's one of my favorite players besides Beast Mode on offense. Sorry man but I''m the type that will speak my mind don't care who you are. Come at me bro!

 

[Sarlacc83]

It's amusing that last night was one of the first games this year where Wilson had his spark and yet people want to turn on him.

If he made mistakes last night it was in trying to do too much at the end. I can forgive him for that.

 

[hawkfannj]

I have said this in several other threads, but Wilson absolutely needs to step up his game when it comes to presnap reads. The Lions spent all game sending corners, safeties, and linebackers off the edges. Their defense was playing aggressive, yet we were not able to punish them when they played aggressively. Wilson needs to be able to recognize the blitz, and have a hot read, or adjust the protection/ play into something more suitable to the situation. You have more guys coming at you than your line can block you are going to have issues, unless you can punish the defense when they play aggressively like that. We did not punish the Lions when they used this strategy, instead we rewarded them with stalled drives, and fumbles.

The Rams, and the Bears also employed a similar strategy against the Hawks'. I also must say that the clear weak point on this line is Britt. He played an awful, awful game and was blown up on multiple occasions both in the running, and passing games. Coleman had a dreadful game as a run blocker and pass blocker. Coleman got schooled on those edge blitzes.

Doesn't matter if Wilson sets more protection, you just stated in the second paragraph of why. We don't have a good O-line period to handle calls. Did anyone else notice when Wilson saw the edge blitz he even called protection for it, even pointed at the guy, but guess what no one picked that guy up and he got sacked. So keep blaming it all on Wilson, besides the fumbles, he had a great game and he did it all on his own. If your guy Luck turns the ball over - it's because he has to do it all on his own. Just give it a rest you will never never like Wilson, you can praise him in the future later and I will always remember that you don't like Wilson because your judgement of his personality helps contribute to it. For whatever reason you are jaded, almost like a scorn lover lol.

Wow and maybe you love him too much like a stalker

No but he's one of my favorite players besides Beast Mode on offense. Sorry man but I''m the type that will speak my mind don't care who you are. Come at me bro!

Please man take a Xanax nobody is " coming At you bro" your a real Internet ninja !

 

[PackerNation]

Every damn time he drops back, he doesn't:
Read the defense
Go through the progression
Throw on time.

I think the lack of a decent OL is really affecting his play. The OL isn't even bad....it's hideous.

 

[Uncle Si]

Every damn time he drops back, he doesn't:
Read the defense
Go through the progression
Throw on time.

I think the lack of a decent OL is really affecting his play. The OL isn't even bad....it's hideous.

Certainly doesn't help things. Last night was just an exercise in futility as a fan.

 

[bevellisthedevil]

When Seattle is sub .500 for the season, this board will be clamoring for change.

After missing the playoffs, with the offense ranked in the bottom 5, there will be many folks with a change of heart.

I just happen to see it coming before many of you.

I know that I am clamoring for change on this board. A traditional drop back passer would be dead already at this point in the season.

I will want to change Wilson at QB in about 15 years when he can't run anymore.

 

[canfan]

We will collectively, incrementally, grow very weary of backyard football.

Every damn time he drops back, he doesn't:
Read the defense
Go through the progression
Throw on time.

He inherently, instinctively jumps into scramble mode, never giving the play a chance to work as designed.

Feast or famine, putting all of the pressure to rescue his a$$ upon the defense, the offensive line, and the run game. Exposing the ball to be swatted away, getting sacked way more often than he should.


There will come a time, in the not too distant future, that we yearn for a conventional offense run by a conventional quarterback.

If this joke of a line does not learn to at least slow down the rush (I've given up on them actually blocking) I don't think you will have long enough to get "tired" of Wilson's style. He'll be down at the Children's Hospital having sick kids sign his cast. Then you can have the satisfaction of watching TJack pat the ball twice before taking a sack as he goes through his progression. You will find that your "conventional" QB has a hard time seeing his receiver with a D Tackle perched on his chest.

 

[fenderbender123]

He needs to quit fumbling, but other than that he was a huge part of almost all the success we had on offense yesterday.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I don't see any difference in Russell other than he's tentative and running for his life 80% of the time because of how terrible his line is.

I don't care who the QB is, if you don't give him security and time to throw he's going to get happy feet and be in consistent.

 

[BadgerVid]

The fumbles bothered me...a lot.

However, getting hit as many times as he did due to an O-line that is truly offensive, sometimes I am surprised he can walk, much less hold onto the ball.

 

[theincrediblesok]

Doesn't matter if Wilson sets more protection, you just stated in the second paragraph of why. We don't have a good O-line period to handle calls. Did anyone else notice when Wilson saw the edge blitz he even called protection for it, even pointed at the guy, but guess what no one picked that guy up and he got sacked. So keep blaming it all on Wilson, besides the fumbles, he had a great game and he did it all on his own. If your guy Luck turns the ball over - it's because he has to do it all on his own. Just give it a rest you will never never like Wilson, you can praise him in the future later and I will always remember that you don't like Wilson because your judgement of his personality helps contribute to it. For whatever reason you are jaded, almost like a scorn lover lol.

Wow and maybe you love him too much like a stalker[/quote]

No but he's one of my favorite players besides Beast Mode on offense. Sorry man but I''m the type that will speak my mind don't care who you are. Come at me bro![/quote]
Please man take a Xanax nobody is " coming At you bro" your a real Internet ninja ![/quote]

My bad man, it just got emotional that's all. Poor choice of words on my part. I apologize to both you and Spin Doctor, I won't take a Xanax but think I'm going to take a few weeks off away from this board.

 

[NorCalSeahawk]

The offense has many (many, many, many) issues, Wilson is not one of them. He is doing well for a guy that has to run for his life on 80-90% of his drop backs. I could only imagine how good he would be if he just had an O-line that could hold up for 2-4 seconds on passing plays, oh to dream. Fumbles happen, his happened at bad times (is there ever a good time), but it does happen. I would guess he will watch the tape and maybe not hold the ball so low next time, but this kind of stuff will happen when your O-line/TE/RB and FB's are letting guys run free at your QB.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

The fumbles bothered me...a lot.

I think the fumbles are an aberration, Russell is normally very ball secure.

But this is what happens when he's running for his life EVERY play, he feels like if he doesn't scramble around and make something happen we're never going to score.

And he's right.

 

[Uncle Si]

I would agree with you except I've been watching the Seahawks for longer than four games.

Russell Wilson has a terrible o line blocking for him, in his mind he has to be aware when he needs to run. Do you think if he had a solid o line he would panic as much and try to escape the pocket?

I'm not saying he doesn't miss throws, miss open receivers, or miss plays here and there, he does I've seen it. However, the majority of our problems on offense are because of our o-line and to some extent the lack of situational play calling.

We will never get sick of Russell Wilson becomes it's darn near impossible to find a quality QB thats efficient at the NFL level.

If he throws the ball on time like other NFL QB's, he doesnt have to scramble.

Even our o-line, as bad as they are, blocks for 3-5 steps......... most of the time :lol:

He's not like other NFL QBs though.

you take some of the good with some of the bad... People want him to be everything. He's just not. He's more Tommy Kramer or Steve Young than Dan Marino or even Joe Montana.

Some of it sucks, some of it is just awesome.

 

[Our Man in Chicago]

I wonder if Vikings fans ever said the same thing about The Mad Scrambler. :roll:

 

[niveky]

We will collectively, incrementally, grow very weary of backyard football.

Every damn time he drops back, he doesn't:
Read the defense
Go through the progression
Throw on time.

He inherently, instinctively jumps into scramble mode, never giving the play a chance to work as designed.

Feast or famine, putting all of the pressure to rescue his a$$ upon the defense, the offensive line, and the run game. Exposing the ball to be swatted away, getting sacked way more often than he should.


There will come a time, in the not too distant future, that we yearn for a conventional offense run by a conventional quarterback.

.........sooooooooo Rawls doing almost nothing most of the game, Fred jackson(who was having success) getting injured had no bearing on Wilson having to carry more on his shoulders? That isn't even mentioning the frightful online situation....also, give credit where credit is due. Their d played well and their d line looked pretty sharp. The thing I am most disappointed in was that our d got no sacks....sure insane pressure but they didn't get stafford once.

 

[hawkfan68]

Without Wilson, the Seahawks would have lost yesterday. Ya he had two fumbles but what is he supposed to do with 3 Lions in his face once he gets the snap. He was running for his life the whole game. Had the OL bothered to block this game would have been a 31-3 game.

 

[randomation]

I would agree with you except I've been watching the Seahawks for longer than four games.

Russell Wilson has a terrible o line blocking for him, in his mind he has to be aware when he needs to run. Do you think if he had a solid o line he would panic as much and try to escape the pocket?

I'm not saying he doesn't miss throws, miss open receivers, or miss plays here and there, he does I've seen it. However, the majority of our problems on offense are because of our o-line and to some extent the lack of situational play calling.

We will never get sick of Russell Wilson becomes it's darn near impossible to find a quality QB thats efficient at the NFL level.

If he throws the ball on time like other NFL QB's, he doesnt have to scramble.

Even our o-line, as bad as they are, blocks for 3-5 steps......... most of the time :lol:

You apparently weren't watching last night almost any other qb in the league gives up 10 plus sacks last night with the amount of time the oline could give aka none.