Tjack or Quinn (Update: TJack flying in for visit)

[Blitzer88]

I truly cannot believe what i am rerading here. How can so many think Tjack is the answer if RW goes down. Yes, sure if your happy with .500 and sucking and turnovers. This is a team on the rise, you don't see great teams like NE go out and hire a lame duck backup to brady. This is a crazy scenario anyways, because i believe JJ will beat out Quinn before the season starts. And i will definately take JJ over Tsucks....If you guys love Tjack so so much, wait for him to sign somewhere and go be a fan of that team. We want winners here, the losing is over

Any team that losses their starting quarterback for any length of time would be in trouble. Having a capable backup helps reduce that loss. TJack is a very capable backup and more so than Quinn or JJ at this point and time. Plus we already know he can win games for us in this system. Also didn't NE just sign a lame duck QB in Tim Tebow?

 

[Throwdown]

I mean obviously your back up has to be Tom Brady or dude isn't worth being your back up.

 

[kigenzun]

To start: a relatively recent example of the last time Tjack was in a Seahawks uniform for the conveniently memory challenged/demented.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBb3c391FiI

Then a dash of historical perspective for spice:6 lines positive. 48 lines of flaws to correct/things to work on. For the mathematically challenged that's 8x as much 'bad' stuff.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/play ... al/1107218

Then a reality check back to when we first picked him up from the Vikings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOp0hVMbvY8

Then, to finish up, a poignantly sad, yet accurate perspective on what Tjack actually offers as an backup Quarterback.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nY6PovvO3Y

(Tjack lovers look away if you have to because this is one of the ugliest slow drop, bad read, fixated on a single WR, totally baited by the vet CB, forced passes that never had a chance to be completed, intercepted for TDs that I have ever seen! And Tjack is straightup just too football dumb to understand that you simply can't throw that pass. Like OMG we want this guy back again?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4UvKrdafqY

... with Chris Clemons, his own bad self, putting some emphasis on that. x2!

 

[bestfightstory]

To start: a relatively recent example of the last time Tjack was in a Seahawks uniform for the conveniently memory challenged/demented.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBb3c391FiI

Then a dash of historical perspective for spice:6 lines positive. 48 lines of flaws to correct/things to work on. For the mathematically challenged that's 8x as much 'bad' stuff.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/play ... al/1107218

Then a reality check back to when we first picked him up from the Vikings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOp0hVMbvY8

Then, to finish up, a poignantly sad perspective, yet accurate perspective on what Tjack actually offers as an backup Quarterback.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nY6PovvO3Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4UvKrdafqY
With Chris Clemons,his own bad self,putting some emphasis on that. x2!

QUICK!!!! Somebody forward this post to Pete Carroll at VMAC!!! Before he does something he is going to regret! Clearly he doesn't know about any of this shit.

 

[Tech Worlds]

To start: a relatively recent example of the last time Tjack was in a Seahawks uniform for the conveniently memory challenged/demented.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBb3c391FiI

Then a dash of historical perspective for spice:6 lines positive. 48 lines of flaws to correct/things to work on. For the mathematically challenged that's 8x as much 'bad' stuff.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/play ... al/1107218

Then a reality check back to when we first picked him up from the Vikings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOp0hVMbvY8

Then, to finish up, a poignantly sad, yet accurate perspective on what Tjack actually offers as an backup Quarterback.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nY6PovvO3Y

(Tjack lovers look away if you have to because this is one of the ugliest slow drop, bad read, fixated on a single WR, totally baited by the vet CB, forced passes that never had a chance to be completed, intercepted for TDs that I have ever seen! And Tjack is straightup just too football dumb to understand that you simply can't throw that pass. Like OMG we want this guy back again?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4UvKrdafqY

... with Chris Clemons, his own bad self, putting some emphasis on that. x2!

Yeh but he is a tough guy!

 

[ClumsyLurk]

To start: a relatively recent example of the last time Tjack was in a Seahawks uniform for the conveniently memory challenged/demented.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBb3c391FiI

Then a dash of historical perspective for spice:6 lines positive. 48 lines of flaws to correct/things to work on. For the mathematically challenged that's 8x as much 'bad' stuff.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/play ... al/1107218

Then a reality check back to when we first picked him up from the Vikings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOp0hVMbvY8

Then, to finish up, a poignantly sad, yet accurate perspective on what Tjack actually offers as an backup Quarterback.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nY6PovvO3Y

(Tjack lovers look away if you have to because this is one of the ugliest slow drop, bad read, fixated on a single WR, totally baited by the vet CB, forced passes that never had a chance to be completed, intercepted for TDs that I have ever seen! And Tjack is straightup just too football dumb to understand that you simply can't throw that pass. Like OMG we want this guy back again?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4UvKrdafqY

... with Chris Clemons, his own bad self, putting some emphasis on that. x2!

Yeh but he is a tough guy!

And never complained about being the starting quarterback, not once!

 

[ClumsyLurk]

To start: a relatively recent example of the last time Tjack was in a Seahawks uniform for the conveniently memory challenged/demented.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBb3c391FiI

Then a dash of historical perspective for spice:6 lines positive. 48 lines of flaws to correct/things to work on. For the mathematically challenged that's 8x as much 'bad' stuff.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/play ... al/1107218

Then a reality check back to when we first picked him up from the Vikings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOp0hVMbvY8

Then, to finish up, a poignantly sad perspective, yet accurate perspective on what Tjack actually offers as an backup Quarterback.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nY6PovvO3Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4UvKrdafqY
With Chris Clemons,his own bad self,putting some emphasis on that. x2!

QUICK!!!! Somebody forward this post to Pete Carroll at VMAC!!! Before he does something he is going to regret! Clearly he doesn't know about any of this shit.

I've sent this along with the url to the thread so he knows where it came from. Kigenzun, you done goofed!

 

[Pandion Haliaetus]

Man, people are really almost conceited against to reality.

1. Wilson is the "guy". No one in their right mind wants to see anybody but Wilson at QB. If anything people need to understand that.

2. Quinn probably came in a pretty comfortable state of mind... and that comfort increased when Portis was released. It became him and Jerrod Johnson.

3. With T-Jack in the mix, a player despite any statistical investigation has support on this team, has respect from his teammates, has familiarity within the system, can anyone not see the positive in that especially the haters.

Just ask yourself:

A) Would you want to see Quinn or Johnson as the backup, knowing the competition was scarce.

B Would you want to see Quinn or Johnson win the backup job over a QB who has already been developed into the system and a player that is held in high regard amongst his teammates.

I wonder... hmm? compete, compete, compete... players who have to fight for opportunity tend to bring their best.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

Easy to answer Quinn is vey bad TJack a tiny bit less so. Given those choices please God let Johnson be the best of this joke involving quarterbacks not good enough to be backups in Kansas City or Buffalo....I will even make a deal with you.

 

[kearly]

I actually think Jackson must have a damn good personality along with good work ethic and good leadership. He wouldn't get the opportunities and support from his teammates otherwise.

Humility and toughness go a long way with people, especially in the NFL.

 

[olyfan63]

"defenders didn't bother to cover our left side very well because they knew he wasn't going to throw it that way. I know all of you saw open receivers over there that could have crawled on their hands and knees for a TD because they were so wide open."

That was painful to watch, over and over again. I'd rather give Quinn a shot and hope he can improve. I knew who said it at one time, and should credit the quote, but it was many pages ago and I was zombified by the time I got this far in the thread.

All we are saying... is give Quinn a chance... (To the tune of "Give Peace a Chance")

I don't like T-Jack... (tell me why!!) I don't like T-Jack...
...
The quarterback clock inside his head runs down to out of time...
This QB's not going to target left side today, won't make the D stay at home...
And Bevell doesn't understand it, he always wished Jackson could be more like Favre...
TJack can't see no receivers, surely there are no receivers
How many open receivers does he need to be shown?
...
I don't like T-Jack... (tell me why!!) I don't like T-Jack...
With apologies to the Boomtown Rats and "I don't like Mondays":

 

[seahawksTopGear]

All of these discussions are missing the most important point.

How much is it going to cost to bring back TJack?

We just traded away the man who beat TJack in trading camp to save a couple of bucks, if TJack costs a couple of bucks we would be crazy to pick him up. If TJack will come for Quinn's salary then it is a no brainer.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Of course, TJack couldn't even make the Buffalo flippen Bills, and was average at best while here.

 

[Hawkscanner]

When I heard word of this yesterday, I breathed a sigh of relief ... and I'll bet meteorologists recorded a a significant rise in barometric pressure related to the collective exhalations of Seahawk players over at the VMAC as well. Seriously, as a back-up who else is a better option out there for this team? In Jackson, you have a guy now who:

1) Knows Darrell Bevell's Offense extremely well and has been a starter.

2) Has a strong arm and is a very mobile runner (he can run the read option and everything else in the playbook, so unlike with Quinn they don't have to go in to handoff to Lynch mode solely if he's called to action).

3) The Seahawk players all collectively respect and acknowledge as a leader. Seriously, how many pro Brady Quinn comments have you heard coming from the players since he's come in?

4) Isn't going to cost this team draft picks or command a huge salary to bring in. At this stage in the game, I'm going to surmise that he ends up coming in somewhere around the league minimum (though I'm sure Schneider has built in some performance bonuses in to the contract.)

No T-Jack isn't the second coming of Joe Montana, another Brett Favre, etc. He isn't going to be Russell Wilson out there on the field and engineer game winning drives on a consistent basis. BUT, he also isn't a single read QB like Quinn who has a career 64.4 Passer Rating. This move is being made for a reason people. They have had Quinn front and center throughout all of these OTA's and clearly, from the front office ... to the coaching staff ... to the players, no one is impressed. Tavaris Jackson put up fairly respectable numbers behind this offense in 2011 (with a torn pectoral muscle in his throwing arm mind you). Personally, I honestly can't think of anyone better to bring in as a back-up to Russell Wilson at this point in the season. Just looking at back-up QB's around the league, I'd have to place Jackson among the top 1/3 among back-ups. I know I certainly feel a lot better about the QB situation as a whole ... and I would say everyone else associated with the Seahawks organization does as well. Good move by Schneider and company bringing this guy back.

 

[Hawkscanner]

Of course, TJack couldn't even make the Buffalo flippen Bills, and was average at best while here.

Mmmmm ... The Bills thought that Marshawn Lynch couldn't play either.

 

[Tech Worlds]

Of course, TJack couldn't even make the Buffalo flippen Bills, and was average at best while here.

Mmmmm ... The Bills thought that Marshawn Lynch couldn't play either.

Com'on man. Everyone in the league knew Lynch could play. It was the off field issues that were the concern.

Jackson? It's the on field issues that are the concern.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

Of course, TJack couldn't even make the Buffalo flippen Bills, and was average at best while here.

Mmmmm ... The Bills thought that Marshawn Lynch couldn't play either.

BS. It was pure off field issues they knew he could play. As for TJack? Been there done that I hope Johnson beats him out. You are right about Quinn though and if those are the only choices then yeah TJack would be better. Which isn't very inspiring but it is what it is and in the NFL if you have a top line quarterback your backup is usually crap.

 

[The Radish]

1) Knows Darrell Bevell's Offense extremely well


I agree with this statement.

The problem comes in at the end of the sentence. He knows Darrell Bevell's offense BUT NEVER HAS BEEN ABLE TO EXECUTE IT.

:les:

And olyfan,,,,,,can I make fun of you if he fails again like you are me for not liking him as a QB?

 

[Missing_Clink]

God why can't the Hawks just sign a pro bowler to the league minimum to be our backup QB? I DEMAND that both our starting and backup QBs are among the 5 best QBs in the NFL.

 

[kidhawk]

I truly cannot believe what i am rerading here. How can so many think Tjack is the answer if RW goes down. Yes, sure if your happy with .500 and sucking and turnovers. This is a team on the rise, you don't see great teams like NE go out and hire a lame duck backup to brady. This is a crazy scenario anyways, because i believe JJ will beat out Quinn before the season starts. And i will definately take JJ over Tsucks....If you guys love Tjack so so much, wait for him to sign somewhere and go be a fan of that team. We want winners here, the losing is over

You really posted this AFTER the Patriots took on Tim Tebow? Seriously? I'd much rather have Jackson than Tebow as a straight up back up quarterback without a single iota of doubt in my mind