Roughing the passer

[oldhawkfan]

The roughing the passer penalty on Taylor or was it Hall? Anyway, the more I think about it, that should not be a penalty. Goff was clearly standing there attempting to look like he still had the ball. Makes the defense think a pass is still in play.
If a QB is running with the ball and slides, he gives himself up and is no longer eligible to be hit. Until then, he is clearly a part of the play and can be hit at anytime.
If Goff was implying by his play at that time that he still had the ball, then any sack on him should be legal.

 

[HomerJHawk]

Being QB would be a much less desirable position if that were the case.

 

[seabowl]

Being QB would be a much less desirable position if that were the case.

correct. It’s a penalty

 

[fenderbender123]

I agree that it shouldn't be a penalty. Why are you trying to trick the defense if you don't think the defense is going to be tricked? The offense is basically asking for the hit.

 

[LickMyNuts]

The intentional grounding was a much worse call.

They let players hit the QB on the read option. And I agree that if the QB is going to pretend they have the ball they’re fair game.

 

[seabowl]

The intentional grounding was a much worse call.

They let players hit the QB on the read option. And I agree that if the QB is going to pretend they have the ball they’re fair game.

The intentional grounding was a joke. There was no player within 5 yards of Smith, which makes it a legal throw.

 

[kidhawk]

I thought at the time, and still do that either the calls were wrong and were horrible or they were correct and need to be addressed by the rules committee

 

[FlyingGunHawk]

so basically, if the QB does a good enough job at pretending he still has the ball, it's the D's fault for being fooled and they get penalized for it if they hit the passer.

My final 2 brain cells are fighting to the death.

 

[onanygivensunday]

I thought at the time, and still do that either the calls were wrong and were horrible or they were correct and need to be addressed by the rules committee

The roughing the passer penalty was justified.

The grounding call was total bogus because Geno was not being pressured. Pete will pursue that call with the NFL head referee to get an explanation... or an apology of sorts.

 

[fenderbender123]

Based on the current rules, sure. But should roughing the passer be a penalty when the QB pretends to have the ball? If you are faking having the ball, you are inviting the defense to hit you. Hopefully the rules committee changes this rule.

 

[FlyingGunHawk]

Based on the current rules, sure. But should roughing the passer be a penalty when the QB pretends to have the ball? If you are faking having the ball, you are inviting the defense to hit you. Hopefully the rules committee changes this rule.

It's like goading someone to punch you in da face. Then they punch you in da face. Then everyone has a surprised Pikachu face afterwards.

 

[kidhawk]

The roughing the passer penalty was justified.

The grounding call was total bogus because Geno was not being pressured. Pete will pursue that call with the NFL head referee to get an explanation... or an apology of sorts.

Like I said I can see either one being called within the rules and without the exact rule in front of me I can’t be positive that they were bad calls but both shouldn’t be a penalty.

You obviously understand my POV in the grounding but with the late hit, I believe if the qb doesn’t want to get hit he shouldn’t try to stay in the play trying to fake out the defense. You should t be penalized because you played it straight up and thought he had the ball.

 

[Hockey Guy]

Nah, by that point Taylor should know he didn't have the ball.

Come on guys.

 

[kidhawk]

Nah, by that point Taylor should know he didn't have the ball.

Come on guys.

So you expect guys rushing the passer to pause and look around for the ball before tackling the qb? No wonder we don’t get sacks

 

[onanygivensunday]

...You should't be penalized because you played it straight up and thought he had the ball.

I believe that you'll find the NFL doesn't agree with you on that point.

 

[Hockey Guy]

So you expect guys rushing the passer to pause and look around for the ball before tackling the qb? No wonder we don’t get sacks

Cool story. These guys are professional athletes that have been doing this stuff all their lives so stop acting like I'm saying they need to "pause" their pass rush to figure out where the ball is. They're not f***ing retards.

I guess telling the ref "I thought he still had the ball" should be an automatic get out of jail free card.

 

[kidhawk]

Cool story. These guys are professional athletes that have been doing this stuff all their lives so stop acting like I'm saying they need to "pause" their pass rush to figure out where the ball is. They're not f***ing retards.

I guess telling the ref "I thought he still had the ball" should be an automatic get out of jail free card.

Now who’s being obtuse? The rule needs to take into account if a qb is actively acting like he has the ball. If he tries to fake out the defense and is good at it that shouldn’t be a penalty.

 

[kidhawk]

I believe that you'll find the NFL doesn't agree with you on that point.

Except they do when it’s a zone read. They specifically call that out because guys can’t always be sure who has the ball. This is no different.

 

[onanygivensunday]

Except they do when it’s a zone read. They specifically call that out because guys can’t always be sure who has the ball. This is no different.

You may think that you're right... but that doesn't make you correct.

 

[kidhawk]

You may think that you're right... but that doesn't make you correct.

My opinion is my opinion it’s not correct nor is it wrong.